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Doctor Who 2017 Christmas Special Trailer: "Twice Upon A Time"
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Somehow I think that could be surprisingly amazing. Missy trying to be good/not murder people while Nardole keeps her on the narrow, as well as annoying the living fuck out of her the entire time. It could work.
Speaking of Nardole, i seriously hope that if he's not coming back next series, they find a way to wrap up his story. Being stuck on a ship with cyberman that will eventually kill you is a pretty lame way to go out (as well as shitty on the Doctor's part for not coming back for him).
WrenchNinja
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Susan had already left by this point?
I kinda doubt that.
Exactly !
And yeah they need to give Nardole a better ending.
Until 12 meets her and fulfills the I will come back promise! :O
Hot Coldman
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8 already did that!
Ventilaator
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What the fuck is Bill doing in this oh my god Moffat can't you leave anything alone ever.
Infinite Stars
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If Tennant gets to mope for 20 minutes about dying while revisiting all his former companions, I don't see why Bill coming back(when it's fully established she's still around) is an issue. If Moffat brings back Clara then we'll have an argument, but otherwise, I don't see the issue here.
APZonerunner
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Clean slate; in an ideal world the Doctor really needs to go into the new era without baggage, and the death of a companion being hours previous would be a hell of a thing to leave around. Cos while she didn't die, the Doctor currently thinks she did. As with Tennant's finale, I imagine he'll see she's okay, and that'll help with the letting go (and not mentioning anything in Jodie's first episode).
SolicitorPirate
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So I'm a casual Who fan at best, but my understanding is all the different incarnations of the Doctor are the same person, right? So how do different regeneration hang out with each other? Is it just time travel shenanigans?
Also, how do they explain the different personalities and quirks between regeneration?
Also, how do they explain the different personalities and quirks between regeneration?
StopMakingSense
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In some ways, regenerations are arguably different people, just with the continuation of memory and core ethos of The Doctor.
For the most part, but each incarnation has his/her own quirks that make them stand out. For example, the Tenth Doctor was cheerful, charismatic, hyperactive and overly enthusiastic, but could equally be demanding & domineering when the situation called for it. On the other-hand, the fifth incarnation was the most open and vulnerable of all the Doctors, to the point where he came across as naïve and inexperienced.
As for the chance that each incarnation interacting with one-another & potentially causing a time paradox, that's where it gets a bit complicated.
In the classic series, external time travel was culturally taboo. Besides, time and space is huge. Like, bigger than you can imagine. Even with The Doctor's shenanigans all across it, he is but a blip on the surface of time and space. Even in the occasion when the 7th and the 10th were in ancient Pompeii, the 10th made sure to avoid his younger incarnation at all costs.
Also, the TARDIS fail-safes to prevent stuff like that.
MHWilliams
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I don't know if they've ever gone into why, but the conceit is The Doctor carries all the memories forward, but since the body is different, so too is the personality. They've hinted and pointed the idea that regenerations can be somewhat controlled, whether consciously or subconsciously by The Doctor (explaining Capaldi face as a rough message from an older self), but not too much (still not a redhead, as the recent joke goes).
The prevailing fan theory right now is The Doctor reacts to his previous companion with each Regeneration.
Either way, think of it like putting all of your memories in somebody else's body and they get all your stuff.
Ventilaator
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I guess I can see the Doctor not knowing what happened with Bill being a bit of a problem.
So, retraction, if Bill has to be in this, I hope she's in the episode for about a minute and then that's it.
I'm getting WW1 vibes, so I wonder if that is the Christmas link.
Honestly it looks as good as it can for a trailer for an episode that's barely into pre-production. Having Bill back is great. Glad to see Gatiss isn't playing the Third Doctor, wish we didn't have to wait five more months
Honestly it looks as good as it can for a trailer for an episode that's barely into pre-production. Having Bill back is great. Glad to see Gatiss isn't playing the Third Doctor, wish we didn't have to wait five more months
Moffat is bringing back Clara.
It is time travel shenanigans.
We don't know this for certain. I consider it 99% certain but the only proof we have is a single article in a newspaper.
So is Clara, doesn't stop her from exploring time and space in her own Tardis.
The Doctor send some regeneration energy into the ground in the finale, they could say Missy snatched that up while dying and it saved her.
Well, Time Crash is a definite one but a short one, and I could see people making arguments for The Almost People and Journey's End!
I watched The Tenth Planet this weekend partially, to give myself a bit of a grounding in what went on and partially as a prelude to the animated Power of the Daleks. For all the talk of through the years, it amuses me how ineffectual Mondas actually is;
Turns up, drains a bit, burns itself out, the end
Any word who's playing her, because that's a rather good likeness; Ellie Spicer, like in AAISAT?
An odd quirk of Doctor Who's missing episodes is that the BBC does actually have all the audio recordings, it's just video that's missing - that's why the animations are viable.
ScientificPizza
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Which is... a little uncomfortable in the light of the next one...
God, please, no.
Quick Mustard
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I'm getting WW1 vibes, so I wonder if that is the Christmas link.
Honestly it looks as good as it can for a trailer for an episode that's barely into pre-production. Having Bill back is great. Glad to see Gatiss isn't playing the Third Doctor, wish we didn't have to wait five more months
Pre-production? They wrapped last week on filming as far as I'm aware. It's all post-production now.
SlipperyFishes
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If by a strong willed woman then sure. Why not?
...I meant post-production and I was sleepy.
The BBC need to ensure that if anyone is to play the Third Doctor that it is John Pertwee's son, Sean.
Don't know who, but I know the 2nd shouldn't be played by the actor in Adventure in Space and Time. He looked and sounded nothing at all like Troughton!
Yes. Although there is the question of whether Sean would want to. And he's definitely not going to be able to as long as Gotham is on the air.
(I don't think you're going to see any of the other classics recast. Not just because Doctor Who has always strived to bring back the original actor at all costs, but mainly because bringing back Doctors from too far in the past doesn't seem to me to be worth the amount of explanation necessary... that and Hurndall is universally considered the worst thing about Five Doctors)
'twas Reece Shearsmith. And yes, I agree that he didn't quite have the right qualities to play Troughton
tonysidaway
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That she might be influenced by Bill? Why should that be uncomfortable? She had some admirable qualities and clearly impressed the Doctor.
WrenchNinja
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So how does Rose influence Ten? Donna/Wilfred influence Eleven? Clara influence Twelve?
Honest question, I'd like to read some theories on this
LordRaptor
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I'm pretty sure if you could meet your teenage self you would both have very different mannerisms and also find each other insufferably annoying - its like that but on a much bigger scale
Weird. Have the BBC re-released the recordings in some format?
First Doctor would beat Smith Doctor so bad they'd have to call social services.
tonysidaway
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Two talented comics, give them a spinoff!
Violence Jack
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That Capaldi hair is AJ Styles-levels of fantastic
Oh, this sounds cool. I'll check to see if this is available digitally, as I've always been curious to watch/listen to the earlier seasons.
The thinking goes that Ten adopted his accent from Nine's travels with Rose, and Twelve adopted his accent from Eleven being with Amy. I think RTD actually endorsed this theory but I'm not sure if Moffat has ever acknowledged it.
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