Okay will do. Or maybe a change.org petition. Those seem to do a lot of good.
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Does it Really Make Sense to Have Another Whole Generation of Nintendo Port Begging?
- Thread starter shawnbuddy
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Okay will do. Or maybe a change.org petition. Those seem to do a lot of good.
Also, maybe I'm blind, but I don't see anything about port begging in the ToS:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=390708
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=390708
Mass_Pincup
Banned
Because it details thread and most often then not bring nothing to the topic at hand.
Seeing droves of" I'll get it if it's on the Switch" in threads for a trailer of a game with specific platforms announced or not can be quite annoying.
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Professor Beef
Banned
port begging *on gaf specifically* does absolutely nothing since most devs aren't reading gaf and aren't in a position to actually implement change
at worst, those types of posts derail threads from actual discussion of the topic
Gotdatmoney
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No offense but there were people here who thought the Switch couldn't run Rocket League. There are people that think it can't run GTA5. People that thought it was getting the vanilla version of Skyrim.
There is a lot of people both ways who dunno what they are talking about.
Suburban Thug
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You gave a simple one sentence response of "people want more games" which doesn't even begin to scrape the surface of the issue. Switch port begging is rampant, often when a new game is announced with no switch version you get these posts:
"No Switch version?"
"This would be great to play on my Switch"
"I own X console but would rather play on Switch"
Like another poster mentioned, twitter and Facebook are probably better platforms for port begging than neogaf.
GifGafIsTheBestGaf
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i was disappointed when i saw the thread, thought it was gonna be an anti-wii/u port to switch thread
It is in thread derailing.
Giving arguments why a game would benefit from another system is not port begging.
Port beging is being angry that Bayo 2 is wiiu exclusive and saying the wiiu sux
There is no reason why the Switch shouldn't get the same "kind of" games the Vita got. It's got more muscle compared to the current gen home consoles, than Vita had when it launched. And the Switch is going to fill the void of Nintendo's succesfull 3DS as well as their home console. So if the Vita could get certain big hitters, i can't see why the Switch couldn't.
I also think port begging isn't nearly as bad as "Nintendo going 3rd party begging".
But i would really like it if this thread were released on the Switch!
I also think port begging isn't nearly as bad as "Nintendo going 3rd party begging".
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Mr. Phellps
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I don't see how wishing for a game on the Switch is detrimental. I mean, maybe it's what? Five, six posts in a 300-post thread? It's easy to overlook.
It's not like people are creating threads about it.
It's not like people are creating threads about it.
Robin64
Member
Where's my Switch Final Fantasy?
(Though seriously, the recent PC ports of VII, VIII and IX should go on there, do it Square)
sotojuan
Member
He can get X and all the PSOne ones for Vita. No way XII will be in portables any time soon.
paragonpro
Banned
Theres a difference between "man a switch port would be great id love to play this on the go" and "im so pissed at this company for not putting a game on my preffered platform"
There are far more people who complain about this shit than there are people who actually do it.
Also, how the hell does "I'd like to play this game on platform x" trigger any sort of emotion in anybody? Weirdest fucking thing to complain about.
Also, how the hell does "I'd like to play this game on platform x" trigger any sort of emotion in anybody? Weirdest fucking thing to complain about.
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Oh of course. One is a reasoned response and the other is just lashing out.
Portability is the biggest factor in wanting a game for Switch, I'd think. It's a built in benefit.
Phrozenflame500
Member
I only find it ridiculous when people get actively upset when companies don't port their games to the Switch. Just wanting a game to come to the platform is fine (as long as it isn't thread-derailing)
Renna Hazel
Member
I gave a simple sentence because it's a simple issue. Those comments are normal and all point to the same feeling, people want games on Switch. This is perfectly normal for Switch owners. Not really sure why you're objecting to what I'm saying?
Call me crazy but developers not having Nintendo platforms on their radar until they get hit with port begging requests seems a little strange to me. I have a feeling these games would have made their way over no matter what. Or am I missing something here?
GTAV and Skyrim are last-gen games. People who thought they can't be run on the Switch are idiots.
What I do see people port-beg are games from the PS4 era like Overwatch which definitely won't be able to run without having to scale back the game big time.
Professor Beef
Banned
that's one reasonable post out of literally tens of thousands of other venomous posts from other people
good for you
CountAntonius
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Port begging to devs on twitter makes sense. On Gaf threads? Not so much.
ItsTheNew
I believe any game made before 1997 is "essentially cave man art."
Which is why I said that a lot of people are out of touch with the specs...you're agreeing with me lol.
Mechanized
Member
People want to play games on whatever console they own. Not everyone owns multiple consoles so it's never going to stop.
I agree with you because i saw this posts myself but you gotta agree that majority of this stuff is about current gen stuff.
Like just recently with KH3, "kingdom hearts 3 dont look that visually impressive, pretty sure they could easily port on switch" like lol.
BlackBuzzard
Banned
Or maybe people who make those posts shouldn't make them.
Professor Beef
Banned
The port begging reached a high recently with the 3DS game announcements. People pissed off that there were no Switch versions and demanding Nintendo to immediately shut down 3DS game development and shit.
ignoring a problem doesn't make it go away
ignoring a problem doesn't make it go away
Zen_Arcade
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Considering that Nintendo didn't really adjust the Switch to accommodate for all of the reasons AAA third parties didn't want to port over to their systems for the past couple generations, no it doesn't really make much sense, and I don't know why anyone expected it.
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Storm Kyleis
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This thread would be perfect for the Switch. Where is my browser, Nintendo?
You mentioned the Wii, but that thing had a remote and a nunchuk with a single analog stick as the main control system.
No, the same games are available on low end PCs with "low" settings. It's much more about target audience than it is about specs. Destiny will never come to the Switch because nobody would buy it on the Switch, it's not worth the investment.
You mentioned the Wii, but that thing had a remote and a nunchuk with a single analog stick as the main control system.
LegendofLex
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I agree that all of these games make good sense for Nintendo platforms, but some of these games even made their way over to Wii U, which sure as hell wasn't a sure thing.
One of those games was Skyrim which certainly took its dear sweet time.
Rocket League is probably the only thing here that was a complete foregone conclusion when it was initially announced for Nintendo platforms.
In Turkish we have this saying "a cat will call the food it cannot reach rotten".
packy34
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There needs to be a defined difference of what port-begging is and what expressed interest in a game is. I don't think there's any harm in saying things like "I would love to play this on Switch" on GAF.
I really dont think its that bad most of the time - people ask or discuss usually games where it would make sense to bring them to Switch or just wonder why it wouldnt happen. If EA/Activision announce their next big budget high end AAA game no one would expect a Switch version....but if its the next Skylanders, Sims or in general something more casual oriented its obv. that people would ask why they are skipping the launch on a successful system.
Same reason with Capcom and their Mega Man Legacy or Disney Collections - those games not coming to Switch raises some question...i also get that having "announcements" threads full of "where is the Switch ?" version is not what people wanna see. But in some way its part of an announcements to discuss the plattforms.
When big games of the past where announced exclusive for DS or 3DS like DQIX or Monster Hunter 4 it was fine for people to have plattform discussion about that project for dozen of pages - it was always a big part of those threads, as long as it wasnt just blatant port-begging, you were able to have some kind of discussion.
Thats sadly not possible with the Switch in the moment because alot of people create a very hostile environment very fast if the console is brought up - right now we have the popular" in be4 the Switch portbeg" posts showing up.
The port begging rules are here for a reason and they make sense to not have threads being dominated by people asking for version X...i just dont think that people need to be that trigger happy when a consoles name is being brought up. If its just one post you probably can ignore it or let the Mods handle it, well or PN a mod...we dont need to blow up every thread because one Person asked if this game is coming or could come to Switch.
Honestly its not THAT big of deal...its just big right now because its happening on Switch. When PS4/XBO were knew it was okay to wish for every game to come on those systems - no matter if it was on PC or handheld before.
It was okay to post oh i wish this game would come to the new consoles - because they are the standard and you cant really ban everyone that wants good looking game X on his system. With Switch its different....many people get upset when its brought up in potential port discussions, for example if you would post nowadays that your are interested in Persona games but prefer to play them on portables, so you hope/wish fir a Switch version down the line you wouldnt survive that thread.
Asking for a portable version in general is bad news since at this points its pretty much mean Switch version - so yeah also something many people dont wanna see.
Ive been on GAF for some years but the hostility when it comes to Switch and potential ports is something i havent witnessed before. And i was here fir the whole Wii era.
Same reason with Capcom and their Mega Man Legacy or Disney Collections - those games not coming to Switch raises some question...i also get that having "announcements" threads full of "where is the Switch ?" version is not what people wanna see. But in some way its part of an announcements to discuss the plattforms.
When big games of the past where announced exclusive for DS or 3DS like DQIX or Monster Hunter 4 it was fine for people to have plattform discussion about that project for dozen of pages - it was always a big part of those threads, as long as it wasnt just blatant port-begging, you were able to have some kind of discussion.
Thats sadly not possible with the Switch in the moment because alot of people create a very hostile environment very fast if the console is brought up - right now we have the popular" in be4 the Switch portbeg" posts showing up.
The port begging rules are here for a reason and they make sense to not have threads being dominated by people asking for version X...i just dont think that people need to be that trigger happy when a consoles name is being brought up. If its just one post you probably can ignore it or let the Mods handle it, well or PN a mod...we dont need to blow up every thread because one Person asked if this game is coming or could come to Switch.
Honestly its not THAT big of deal...its just big right now because its happening on Switch. When PS4/XBO were knew it was okay to wish for every game to come on those systems - no matter if it was on PC or handheld before.
It was okay to post oh i wish this game would come to the new consoles - because they are the standard and you cant really ban everyone that wants good looking game X on his system. With Switch its different....many people get upset when its brought up in potential port discussions, for example if you would post nowadays that your are interested in Persona games but prefer to play them on portables, so you hope/wish fir a Switch version down the line you wouldnt survive that thread.
Asking for a portable version in general is bad news since at this points its pretty much mean Switch version - so yeah also something many people dont wanna see.
Ive been on GAF for some years but the hostility when it comes to Switch and potential ports is something i havent witnessed before. And i was here fir the whole Wii era.
LambdaTeos
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it's a forum where people can organize for a common objective, I know, shocking forums have that quality
people want a game in the platform they like and have, it's pretty normal for them to request it and there is no issue with it, it/'s just a matter of ignoring it
What is not cool is blasting their opinion when a dev says "no", just like p[people can beg for a game, devs can say no because they have other objectives in mind
In other words, let people fight the battles they think are important for them, and if they are not for you, ignore them
As simple as that
Also, what the eff? this is a forum where people can express their opinion, if people want to see if other people shares their same opinion, let them be, if it bothers you, just ignore it
I saw a comment saying that most games eventually would come to a console no matter the demand, and that is not true.. or at least part of it, it's true that a game can be considered for a console, but there is no other way to see the demand for that game in the console unless people voice their opinion, and that is exactly what is happening
Just don't get angry if they say "No, we won't port this game to that system"
Lol, a 3-month-old thread about a rerelease of 20-year-old Disney games.
That's rich.
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Professor Beef
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I wonder why.
Jonneh3003
Banned
I don't think it's outrageous to voice a desire for third party games on the system. If people were begging for God of War for instance then that's just dumb (like people did for a certain Nintendo title on Wii U).
Gotdatmoney
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All I am highlighting is the systems capabilities are not well understood so you're gonna have people saying X shit is impossible and y shit is possible.
Okay lol. We good haha
Certainly not arguing people aren't delusional. Just that the system's capabilities aren't fully understood. There is a middle ground between Battlefield 1 and Stardew Valley
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Deleted member 1235
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Port begging for indie games is legit, it's the best platform for them and its apparently easy to develop for. Also they are doing well on the platform. People clamoring for their favourite title without compromises on a portable device is understandable.
For big titles yeah, fooling yourself.
Games like that cup head game are ripe for a switch begging imo
For big titles yeah, fooling yourself.
Games like that cup head game are ripe for a switch begging imo
Professor Beef
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i've been doing that a lot more since there's been a downturn in threads i've been interested in
LordKasual
Banned
this is the most aggravating thing about the whole situation
not to mention the "I think [X nintendo game] is better than [Y unrelated game] because [Z arbitrary out of context reasons]" threads ad infinitum
the amount of Zelda vs. HZD threads a few months ago was nauseating