Agreed. Wake me up when an Anthem or RDR2 thread is derailed by Switch port-begging.
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Does it Really Make Sense to Have Another Whole Generation of Nintendo Port Begging?
- Thread starter shawnbuddy
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Agreed. Wake me up when an Anthem or RDR2 thread is derailed by Switch port-begging.
ZombiePlatypus
Member
Developers on social media ask and tease for demand. So long as it's not nonsense like "Horizon on Switch" or "Mario on Playstation!" then I think it's totally fair and valid. It absolutely makes a difference with Indies and even viable 3rd party games. He'll, didn't YoshiP even suggest FFXIV Switch was at least an idea being looked at?
Adam_Vania
Banned
if you want things to "make sense" you should probably try looking elsewhere than a videogame forum on the internet. it is a virtual discussion about virtual realities. in the end we are talking about sitting in front of screens pushing buttons w no material benefit.
on the other hand it does make total sense. people want to buy video games. companies sell video games. often supply and demand are all flippy floppy. people that buy video games want to buy more video games. it's a pretty natural reaction.
deride it as "port begging" if you want but i fail to see the point of pre-emptively calling out consumers for wanting to consume. it isnt going to stop anyone who wants a game on Switch from saying so. fwiw i hate terms like "port beginning" people trot out like some kind of consumer dick measuring contest, as if you have special insight into what companies will make and you are better at consuming than other people.
on the other hand it does make total sense. people want to buy video games. companies sell video games. often supply and demand are all flippy floppy. people that buy video games want to buy more video games. it's a pretty natural reaction.
deride it as "port begging" if you want but i fail to see the point of pre-emptively calling out consumers for wanting to consume. it isnt going to stop anyone who wants a game on Switch from saying so. fwiw i hate terms like "port beginning" people trot out like some kind of consumer dick measuring contest, as if you have special insight into what companies will make and you are better at consuming than other people.
jts
...hate me...
I used to be an owner of a Switch and PS4 too. After I learned that FIFA and Rocket League are coming to the Switch, I'm now just a Switch owner.
I may buy back a PS4 some day (I have some digital backlog) but those games and many other multiplatforms I'll rather get on Switch to play them anywhere. All indications are that FIFA Switch is great. No reason why Rocket League shouldn't be either. Etc.
Certainly not arguing people aren't delusional. Just that the system's capabilities aren't fully understood. There is a middle ground between Battlefield 1 and Stardew Valley
yeah ofc you are right
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Then there are those that actually want a game on Switch, and those that just do it to stir things up.
Like the "in before Switch port beg".
Is like when some start a post with "I'm not a fanboy, but...".
Is more about the nature of some people around online forums and social, rather than Nintendo fans/fanboys.
Like the "in before Switch port beg".
Is like when some start a post with "I'm not a fanboy, but...".
Is more about the nature of some people around online forums and social, rather than Nintendo fans/fanboys.
As a person that can play pretty much any game available on the market, i often find myself thinking:"i'd rather play this game on the Switch"
So i'm not going to judge the folks that want games on the system, Nintendo hit the nail on the head with this console, it's almost too good.
So i'm not going to judge the folks that want games on the system, Nintendo hit the nail on the head with this console, it's almost too good.
shawnbuddy
Member
That Cuphead game was heavily backed (yes, financially) and promoted by Microsoft, so don't hold your breath.
It is above average, yes.
What I find it weird is that people complain when people go to threads just for this ... but then when you make a thread for this, in which port beg IS the theme and therefore not a derail, people complain anyway.
kuhnbeast91
Member
I understand that port begging is very annoying, but I can guarantee if 95% of all games announced didn't come to Playstation or Xbox platforms they would be begging for ports too.
AAA PS4/X1 games aren't really up for begging, but a lot of less ambitious software should run no problem.
What you'll see more of is port begging for single player centric PS3/360 games that could use a portable experience, like Skyrim (GTAIV, BioShock/Infinite, early Assassin's Creed, Red Dead, Dishonored 1, Arkham Asylum, Dark Souls)
What you'll see more of is port begging for single player centric PS3/360 games that could use a portable experience, like Skyrim (GTAIV, BioShock/Infinite, early Assassin's Creed, Red Dead, Dishonored 1, Arkham Asylum, Dark Souls)
Jonneh3003
Banned
This is an enthusiast forum so I think it's safe to assume the majority of people who have a Switch here also have a PS4, Xbox One and or PC. I too would rather play everything on Switch.
rodrigolfp
Haptic Gamepads 4 Life
why one shoud be bothered by port begging posts? just ignore them
for this posts could be that a dev is reading them and considering the port for this people happiness xD
for this posts could be that a dev is reading them and considering the port for this people happiness xD
Port begging
NoctisVsStar
Member
Facts, besides the day you buy a Nintendo console and make it your primary console you should pretty much know what to expect.. like don't fool yourself big third party games aren't getting ported (GTA,destiny,FF, etc)
AlexFlame116
Member
Everyone is the victim, yet everyone is also the one who starts something.
If someone doesn't port beg, then someone else decides to be that guy and say "inb4" just to be cool.
If a game is not capable of being done on the Switch without massive changes then some complain even though there are valid reasons for it being incompatible.
If someone makes another thread about the Switch praising it in any way then people counter it.
But if someone makes a thread of how bad something is on the Switch like achievements or Wi-Fi or even how the controller looks, then it's okay to agree.
Everyone has an agenda. No matter how much they say it's not true. It's how we are as humans. It's just too bad we can't have both positives and negatives about something without the other side seeing red.
If someone doesn't port beg, then someone else decides to be that guy and say "inb4" just to be cool.
If a game is not capable of being done on the Switch without massive changes then some complain even though there are valid reasons for it being incompatible.
If someone makes another thread about the Switch praising it in any way then people counter it.
But if someone makes a thread of how bad something is on the Switch like achievements or Wi-Fi or even how the controller looks, then it's okay to agree.
Everyone has an agenda. No matter how much they say it's not true. It's how we are as humans. It's just too bad we can't have both positives and negatives about something without the other side seeing red.
I think the Switch is a very attractive device for third parties as well. Its the first time in a long while where a Nintendo device could be preferred over playstation or Xbox by young adults. I mean going back to the N64 days till now, Nintendo devices had either low sales or were too different to litteraly port over existing succesful games from Sony and later Microsoft. The Switch doesnt have the same hardware power sure, but its a capable device that could run pretty much most games with small sacrifices and there is a compelling reason for people to actually want to buy games on Switch.
ZombiePlatypus
Member
It happens on all sides. The "Nintendo should to 3rd party" stance is basically a colossal port-begging narrative.
Jonneh3003
Banned
This is a good post, very open minded.
LinkSlayer64
Member
To be honest most threads usually have the responses to port-begging come before the actual port-begging. Then there's the "lol not coming to Switch" posts which feel like the most obnoxious of the three. I've just learned to expect a shitshow wherever Nintendo threads are concerned.
Most honest post in this thread.
I have already asked to enlighten me about how bad it is but nobody has come back to me yet.
can you explain to me how games are struggling running on xbox one can run on switch with a small sacrafice?
This is exact the type of stuff i was talking about
NoctisVsStar
Member
The problem is when you're delusional thinking certain games can run on it just cause it supports UE4.
KratosEnergyDrink
Member
I think with WiiU was the questions for ports a bit meaningless. If people really want to play a specific game they should buy a platform where its released. Regardless if its Assassins Creed or Bayonetta2.
But the Switch is a "game changer" for some, because quite some people seems to enjoy the whole concept of stationery/portability aspect. Most people I know with a Switch who said they will use this thing only on TV and will never play a "console" game like Zelda in Handheld mode, quickly changed their mind after a few days.
Its superfluous when people beg for Uncharted on Switch and Zelda or Bayonetta2 on PS4, or the "Nintendo should go third party" begging, because that is never happening.
Hoping/dreaming of a Switch port of Battlefront, CoD, Dragon Quest or Resident Evil in the specific threads is quite understandable. This has often nothing to do with "fanboy" attitudes. There is no substitute on the market that is even nearly as satisfying for some as to play games with the Switch concept.
Nonetheless its irritating when some people constantly port begging when specific games are mentioned. But when someone hopes of a port when a new game is announced (regardless of the system) is nothing that would derail a thread. The constant complains about such posts are far more redundant. Ports are always possible, even the Wii got CoD & Co.
But the Switch is a "game changer" for some, because quite some people seems to enjoy the whole concept of stationery/portability aspect. Most people I know with a Switch who said they will use this thing only on TV and will never play a "console" game like Zelda in Handheld mode, quickly changed their mind after a few days.
Its superfluous when people beg for Uncharted on Switch and Zelda or Bayonetta2 on PS4, or the "Nintendo should go third party" begging, because that is never happening.
Hoping/dreaming of a Switch port of Battlefront, CoD, Dragon Quest or Resident Evil in the specific threads is quite understandable. This has often nothing to do with "fanboy" attitudes. There is no substitute on the market that is even nearly as satisfying for some as to play games with the Switch concept.
Nonetheless its irritating when some people constantly port begging when specific games are mentioned. But when someone hopes of a port when a new game is announced (regardless of the system) is nothing that would derail a thread. The constant complains about such posts are far more redundant. Ports are always possible, even the Wii got CoD & Co.
fredrancour
Member
I know it's not gonna happen most of the time but I'm not gonna stop wishing I could play more things on a handheld.
Wonder if I'll ever just give up and investigate that win gpd thing
Wonder if I'll ever just give up and investigate that win gpd thing
evil monkey
Member
It's a matter of attitude. Asking devs and pubs on social media, events, etc, to bring a game to your platform of choice is perfectly fine as long as it's done in a respectful way. Becoming a salt shaker when a game doesn't make it would only reinforce their decision imo.
MisterR
Member
You must not be on many threads then. It's in every thread for any game not announced for Switch.
I've got a day one PS4 Pro (which replaced my day one PS4) and a day one PSVR and I agree. Switch has changed my priorities on non-AAA games (and sports games) completely. Haven't bought FIFA since like 2011, will buy day one on Switch, have bought every NBA2K on my PS4, will buy this one on Switch, have bought every Madden for as long as I remember, not sure if I could be bothered to buy this year. Why the hell would I, or any human person with the choice, buy a game like Stardew Valley on any platform other than Switch?
Persona 5 really set this off for me. Quit after like 10 hours and I'm likely never going to pick it back up again unless a certain, for some reason, offensive thing happens. My PS4 is now a Sony-exclusive and PSVR machine. It's a damn fine console with an extremely strong library, but the hook of the Switch fits into my life perfectly and makes going back to being tethered to my couch feel more like a "downgrade" than any graphical "downgrade" I've seen.
If a game isn't announced for Switch I ignore the thread. Sounds like more of the Switch only crowd here should follow that example then!
One issue is sometimes platforms aren't announced, like with the anime Souls game earlier. Those threads were bad with the people hoping it would come to Switch and people saying it obviously wouldn't. Could've been avoided by just announcing platforms...
Died at the first reply in that thread.
Every thread for a new game. Gets a "is it coming to Switch" within the first 20 posts.
If you aren't seeing it then you clearly aren't looking in many threads.
Suburban Thug
Member
The problem is when you have a bunch of people derailing threads with their unrealistic wishes. You buy a Nintendo platform to play Nintendo games for the most part; these people knew what they were getting into when they paid the sticker price so the port begging makes my eyes roll. It's just obnoxious...imagine if BotW threads were overrun with PlayStation Stans asking for it on PS4.
Maintenance
Member
I will say that I've seen some notable users been a bit angry with devs that say that their game can't be on the Switch or they just won't be developing for it. Reactions are basically that the devs are spigot for views or such when it's actually the media sites asking these question and not. It's not the devs suddenly saying that on the spot.
There is a huge difference between asking for a third party game and asking for a first party one.
I bought it with that plan but now I can't go back to being stuck to either a TV or portable. So while I want "all games to come to Switch", I just focus on the games actually coming and focus on supporting them. Most likely missing out on something like Kingdom Hearts 3 sucks but I'll live.
InfiniteCombo
Banned
Apparently not so much anymore. Either that, or enforcement is not as strong as it was in the past.
Suburban Thug
Member
I think you very much so get what I'm talking about even if that example isn't an exact 1:1 scenario
InfiniteCombo
Banned
For multiple reasons.
You can feel free to speak for yourself. Don't speak for everyone.
I don't have any issue with expressing interest in Indies games coming to the Switch as long as it can run them. let's face it the Vitas library would be non existent if it haven't been for fans being so vocal about wanting those games to come to the platform.
The issue I have is people expecting stuff like Assassins Creed origins, or the like which are graphically intense on the PS4 and Xbone as it is. I think Nintendos strategy with the Switch is great after experiencing it for myself, but it's impossible to deny that they handicapped the system in many ways with the direction they chose.
The issue I have is people expecting stuff like Assassins Creed origins, or the like which are graphically intense on the PS4 and Xbone as it is. I think Nintendos strategy with the Switch is great after experiencing it for myself, but it's impossible to deny that they handicapped the system in many ways with the direction they chose.
NipplesAndToes23
Member
How is it begging? Why don't y'all call other stuff you desire begging?