How much of that is the emulation? The game runs like garbage on the real hardware. The emulator tells you whether it's running at full speed via the vfps.
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Dolphin - Emulating Wii and Gamecube Games
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Well your CPU is a fair bit stronger than mine lol
The percentage next to vps and fps was jumping between 60 and 80, the sound was crackling and it was like it was in slow motion so it was most certainly on my end.
e: actually now that i think of it, it ran so bad that there's gotta be something wrong with my settings or something. i run xenoblade in full speed in 1080p for crying out loud, tls can't be that demanding lol
Dolphin is mostly a CPU demanding emulator.
Unfortunately that CPU is too slow for The Last Story. You should be fine with some of the more lightweight games such as NSBW, Muramasa, Brawl, etc.
Yes. I'm assuming you're using the latest dev builds.
Where exactly are you experiencing these and what's your CPU clocked at?
They're not even in the same league in regards to emulation intensity. The Last Story is one of the most demanding games to emulate.
I tried it several years ago and it ran well, so it's probably flawless now.
Most likely yes. I think those old "game specific" builds were usually based off of 3.0 or 3.5 which are ancient by this point. There have been a ton of optimizations and bug fixes since then.
yes it's up there with Metroid Prime 3.
DeFiBkIlLeR
Banned
Lol..just updated to the latest build and F Zero has gone from a nice smooth 60fps (with the odd dip down to 56fps) to now running like complete and utter dog shit.
Framerate is now all over the place from 15-60fps, menu screens are now sitting at 20fps and when racing the frame rate will one second be at 30fps and then jumps upto 60fps then back down to low 30's.
FFS!!!....When am I going to learn..if it ain't broke, don't fix it.
Running it on an Intel 4690k @ 4.6Ghz
Framerate is now all over the place from 15-60fps, menu screens are now sitting at 20fps and when racing the frame rate will one second be at 30fps and then jumps upto 60fps then back down to low 30's.
FFS!!!....When am I going to learn..if it ain't broke, don't fix it.
Running it on an Intel 4690k @ 4.6Ghz
That's likely due to the shader cache issues. It goes away after playing for a while.
Thanks, I'll try out the new one.
Yeah, that's what I said. i7 4820K is way stronger than my i5 3570k, and mine is stock.
3,4GHz and all the time, really. Even the first corridor is unplayable.
Never would have thought of that. It's kind of fascinating really, I thought I knew something about emulating and emulators.
e: nothing seems to help so eh, i'll just wait for even later builds to play tls
Make sure V-Sync is off, and make sure Sync GPU Threads or whatever the
right click > properties
option is called.
Yay, maybe I can finally finish TLS. It's ran like shit for as long as I can remember.
Mengy
wishes it were bannable to say mean things about Marvel
Wow, really? I ripped my disc some time ago but it plays like crap on my PC, so I still play this one on my Gamecube instead. I'm wondering if this speed boost will change that? Can't wait to try that out.
I still love playing this game. Someday I'll get all gold medals. Someday....
So is Rodge Squardon playable now then?, as when i tired it the other month you could not see the deathstar at all on the first level and only thing you could see is that big orange planet???
Is there a nightly build that has these speed boost updates and the fixes you mentioned??
Faster, but not playable. Still has a massive freeze issue: https://wiki.dolphin-emu.org/index.php?title=Star_Wars_Rogue_Squadron_II:_Rogue_Leader
Why don't you overclock that CPU? It'll help bridge a lot of gaps especially in emulation.
Anyway, the game is forced to run with EFB Copies set to RAM by default in the ini, if you switch it to Texture you should gain quite a bit of FPS, but that'll break the clothing etc.
One thing I did on my playthrough (a looong time ago) was enable hotkeys and switch it to RAM (with the hotkey) before I entered a new area and switched it back.
Check out the wiki for more info on that and other stuff.
Yes, most of them are, but she's always working and fixing regressions and also bringing new improvements so we might see more gains.
No, not yet. There is work in progress, but it's not quite ready yet. One of the testers even managed to beat the whole game with some patches and specific hacks.
Honestly, I've never had the need to. This is literally the first time ever this CPU hasn't been enough.
Then there's the fact that it's still on its stock cooler and I know absolutely nothing about overclocking lol
OminoMichelin
Member
I hope Ill be able to play xenoblade with HD textures when the update hits. My non-k i5 really doesn't like that game :/
Emulation is a different beast than PC gaming. Dolphin for one requires OC'd CPU's for certain demanding games, but you should abstain from overclocking until you get yourself a nice third-party cooler.
The updates are already out in the wild if you grab a development build, so go ahead and give it a try. If you're having issues then let the shader cache generate.
Which i5 and GPU do you have?
I know, but this is the first time I've had problems even emulating. I've played tons of PS2, Gamecube and Wii games on an emulator and The Last Story is the first game that simply has been too demanding.
OminoMichelin
Member
4440 3.10Ghz. The framerate would go below 30 and basically everything stuttered, including the audio. I even put the game on the SSD hoping it would be a problem of textures streaming, but no dice.
I did about 8 months ago on a i5-3570k @ 4.3Ghz. I did run into a few freezes, mostly related to savestates, and there were definitely some areas with some slowdown, but battles always ran well so it wasn't a big deal. The issues weren't too bad overall.
Welp.
One day, we'll get to play this damn game at 4X native res.
That day will be a good day.
mikespit1200
Member
Just saw this pop up online: http://www.pcgamer.com/how-gamecubewii-emulator-dolphin-got-a-turbocharge/
Awesome to see Dolphin is still going strong. Im still rocking a AMD 1090T X6 @3.7Ghz. Might load up the latest version and see SMG runs.
Awesome to see Dolphin is still going strong. Im still rocking a AMD 1090T X6 @3.7Ghz. Might load up the latest version and see SMG runs.
Sentenza
Member
A lot of interesting info in the commentary, too.
Mostly by Fiora in person, too.
All of the speed issues related to The Last Story are purely in EFB emulation. The game requires 'EFB to RAM' for accurate treatment of the EFB (and enforces it in the game INI), but on my system (an overclocked Core i7-2600K), the difference in FPS between 'EFB to texture' and 'EFB to ram' is massive (90+ FPS with 'EFB to texture' versus barely 20 FPS with 'EFB to RAM'). If I didn't mind the missing textures/polys so much, I could just play with EFB to texture enabled and the game would run flawlessly performance-wise, even with a high (3x native) internal resolution.
However, all things considered, Dolphin is still the best emulator out there. The speed and compatibility changes made since the 3.5 days now mean that my girlfriend can play Xenoblade on her gaming laptop with a (mobile class) Core i7 processor and modest mobile graphics chipset at full speed. Back when I first played it in Dolphin, it took LLE emulation and tons of CPU power on a desktop-class Intel CPU to get the game even in the ballpark of full speed. The awesome monthly status reports (complete with their technical explanations of what's getting fixed) are icing on the cake.
KojiKnight
Member
Wow haven't been keeping up with Dolphin at all, glad to hear such huge improvements to speed. I was to the point that I wasn't expecting improvements to speed on it years ago (indeed, I was expecting it to lose speed as it became more accurate).
ThatsMytrunks
Member
I very much look forward to the day that Sonic Colors is running 1080p 60fps without many graphical errors.
You'll be waiting a long time, since Sonic Colors is a 30 fps game.
Hey, thanks for posting. I've been using Dolphin for years, and when I saw the September update I felt compelled to talk to Fiora about her work on the emulator and how much she'd accomplished in such a short timespan. There are tons of other people doing great work on it too, obviously, but I felt like this was worth highlighting.
Well deserved, also since it shows what a mature development community Dolphin has.
Stallion Free
Cock Encumbered
Whoever writes up the monthly reports deserves a legit pat on the back.
ThatsMytrunks
Member
Hah, okay. I'd play it at a solid 30. My framerate was everywhere when I tried supersampling. I'm running an i7 4770k with a GTX 770 2GB. I figure it'll get there someday.
Fudgepuppy
Banned
Am I the only one experiencing random slowdowns in Twiliight Princess Wii? If I enter a new area or pause the game, the game will randomly run at 50% for 30 seconds or until I press the home-button?
The Red Wizard
Member
I didn't have that problem when I played it about a year ago. I'm running an i5-3570.
Fudgepuppy
Banned
This is what I did to solve the problem:
- Update to latest revision
- Went from a scrubbed iso, to a non-scrubbed one
- Went from NTSC to PAL.
Now I don't have the problem, I do however experience slowdowns almost everytime I slash the sword at an enemy. The game runs perfect otherwise so I have no idea how I'm going to fix it.
It seems the problems arise whenever the game issues certain sound-effects, like when you successfully herd a goat into the barn.
My rig:
Geforce GTX 660ti
Haswell i5 4670K, OC at 4.1 ghz
8GB Ram
That's likely due to the shader cache issue. Read this if you want to know more about it: https://www.reddit.com/r/programmin...ii_emulator_dolphin_got_a_turbocharge/cl59yg4
Fudgepuppy
Banned
Well I did some things to alter it (written in my last post) but now there seems to be issues when certain sound-effects are triggered, like when an enemy is struck by a sword.
HLE fucks up the sound, which is sad as I didn't notice the slowdowns when using it, but then I tried running DSP LLE on separate thread, and the problems don't seem as prominent now. Will continue and report back when I've tested some more.
xiceman191
Banned
does anybody have tvc on dolphin and willing to do netplay. Its been awhile since I played and I want to play with some people.