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SSJ4 Goku looks cool
Why does SSJ4 cause Goku to grow leather pants?
SSJ4 Goku looks cool
SSJ4 was ugly. Also weird to find fans of GT, the most hated series in the fandom.
Why did they have to make Goku a child?! Of all the things I like about GT I hate what they did to him.
GT is as much canon as Super, people who think different are simply not informed well.
There is no Dragon Ball without GT, its a core part of it, just look at say... Dokkan battle, people were bitching about not wanting GT characters and than 1 year later SSJ4 were their most wanted characters...hell SSJ4 Gogeta still is nr1 most wanted.
GT is as much canon as Super, people who think different are simply not informed well.
There is no Dragon Ball without GT, its a core part of it, just look at say... Dokkan battle, people were bitching about not wanting GT characters and than 1 year later SSJ4 were their most wanted characters...hell SSJ4 Gogeta still is nr1 most wanted.
When I was a kid watching this show I was constantly asking myself this question.Why does SSJ4 cause Goku to grow leather pants?
The thing is there are JUST enough fans that buy just enough merchandise that I am confident they will keep it canon for the foreseeable future. Which is a bit sad as I am curious where DBS might be able to go otherwise.
The Super manga isn't made by Toriyama though. Just the general story, which is then being adapted by the anime and manga teams separately (which is why there are sometimes big differences between the two).I think it's because Toriyama didn't work on GT. The manga ended with Z, and GT didn't have a manga. Super has a manga and a show and is made by Toriyama.
Universes don't really work that way in Dragon Ball. The twin universe will have similarities, but not the same characters.Super basically de-canons GT. Only way GT can be canon now is if everyone gets depowered and forgets about everything that's happened in Super lol. Could just say GT is one of the universes I guess, though
That's not how canon works though? I mean if the majority want it in games and stuff, that's ultimately whatever, but that doesn't make it canon lol
Otherwise by that logic, Broly would be canon too
GT is as much canon as Super, people who think different are simply not informed well.
There is no Dragon Ball without GT, its a core part of it, just look at say... Dokkan battle, people were bitching about not wanting GT characters and than 1 year later SSJ4 were their most wanted characters...hell SSJ4 Gogeta still is nr1 most wanted.
The same way that Brolly is canon because people love it, despite his story arc ocurring in an impossible to conciliate with the main story moment.GT is as much canon as Super, people who think different are simply not informed well.
There is no Dragon Ball without GT, its a core part of it, just look at say... Dokkan battle, people were bitching about not wanting GT characters and than 1 year later SSJ4 were their most wanted characters...hell SSJ4 Gogeta still is nr1 most wanted.
The same way that Brolly is canon because people love it, despite his story arc ocurring in an impossible to conciliate with the main story moment.
Why does SSJ4 cause Goku to grow leather pants?
If Piccolo can create a passage from Hell to Earth by shooting a beam that connects to Dende's beam, anything is possible.Even from Hell? ��
Even from Hell? 🤔Piccolo is always watching Goku in the distance, and using his clothes beam on him as he transforms.
In XV3, we need a scene where Kale and Broly hug each other like Zamasu and Black hugged each other.
Super basically de-canons GT. Only way GT can be canon now is if everyone gets depowered and forgets about everything that's happened in Super lol. Could just say GT is one of the universes I guess, though
I don't know why people like Omega, dude is boring as fuck.
Like SSJ4 Goku and Gogeta, SSJ4's Vegeta design doesn't suit him that well.
Official Dragonball canon goes:
Bardock: Father of Goku -> Path to Power -> Earth's Special Forces -> Dragonball Z movies -> Jump Ultimate Stars -> Dragonball Online
There's just nowhere for GT to fit in.
Could just say GT is one of the universes I guess, though
Didn't Piccolo get trapped in Hell for all eternity? That is legitimately the worst thing to happen in GT.Piccolo is always watching Goku in the distance, and using his clothes beam on him as he transforms
If Piccolo can create a passage from Hell to Earth by shooting a beam that connects to Dende's beam, anything is possible.
Being in Hell amplifies the clothes beam, theoretically.
I hear Hitler was a GT fan.
He barely shows up in GT and suddenly there's an emotional goodbye with him, lol.Didn't Piccolo get trapped in Hell for all eternity? That is legitimately the worst thing to happen in GT.
He hated Fusion Reborn though.
Super introduced one of my favorite characters in the whole series (Beerus), one of the best villains ever (Black) and brought non-Saiyans back into the action for the first time since mid-Z. I haven't been this enthusiastic about Dragon Ball in a long time.
The worst thing was his interaction with Baby Gohan, literally just shows up, I think he says something about stopping Gohan, then Gohan fucks up his world. This all happens in a span of 30 seconds. No emotion, no tension, no cool Piccolo moment. But Piccolo trapped in hell is a close second.Didn't Piccolo get trapped in Hell for all eternity? That is legitimately the worst thing to happen in GT.
That was about the popularity. As for the canon stuff we have
Super:
-Outline on a piece of paper by Toriyama
-Characters designed by him
-Main focus on the anime (I know there is a manga too but its mostly to push the anime)
-Made for fanservice and to grab money by Toei.
GT
-Outline on a piece of paper by Toriyama
-Characters designed by him (even that hated Mustache Vegeta)
-Main focus on the anime (if it was made today maybe they'd throw in some manga too)
-Made for fanservice and to grab money by Toei.
As for Broly he kinda is canon at this point, maybe they will never mention him by name but having his face in every kind of game and making Kale which is EXACTLY him kinda makes Broly a legit character.
I have my problems with GT as much as the next person, I think Super is leagues better, but it's part of Dragon Ball's history, it has some cool ideas even if they aren't executed well, so why not include them in games? More content is better than nothing. My only issue would be if GT stuff is included and Super isn't. That would upset me.
That was about the popularity. As for the canon stuff we have
Super:
-Outline on a piece of paper by Toriyama
-Characters designed by him
-Main focus on the anime (I know there is a manga too but its mostly to push the anime)
-Made for fanservice and to grab money by Toei.
GT
-Outline on a piece of paper by Toriyama
-Characters designed by him (even that hated Mustache Vegeta)
-Main focus on the anime (if it was made today maybe they'd throw in some manga too)
-Made for fanservice and to grab money by Toei.
As for Broly he kinda is canon at this point, maybe they will never mention him by name but having his face in every kind of game and making Kale which is EXACTLY him kinda makes Broly a legit character.
This is really one of my favorite things about having a new Dragon Ball show. Ever since Dragon Ball games really started to take off (PS2 era) we haven't had an on-going show like this. Finally after all these years there's fresh material we can add to the games. The series desperately needs it.This is important. There's so much new that can be added from Super.
We just had 60+ new characters revealed in the current arc, plus all the gods, their angels, and their Kai's. That's not counting the Future Trunks arc and the Universe 6 tournament. Super's content that has never been in DB games prior is growing and growing. Soon we could have a whole game based on just Super's content. Every game is going to have a fountain of new stuff as long as Super exists.
GT doesn't give us nearly as many characters, A few wasted attempts at unique characters, some cool ones like Rildo, Baby, and a few of the shadow Dragons. The rest are forgettable, and there just aren't that many.
Old iconic characters in Z have new moves in Super, like Krillin, and 18. 17 is stronger which helps in the story mode. Future Trunks has several new forms. Gohan is back to relevancy and has new moves, plus mystic has changed from how games have used it prior. Roshi is being pushed more so devs will have to start incorporating him in games more. Whether or not Yamcha is a joke in Super, he's popular, people love to laugh at him, it'll keep him relevant and in games. Goku Black is a new string of Goku completely. It's not an improved Goku, it's a new Goku from the ground up that plays completely differently, and minus the Kamehameha, and IT, has new moves. Frieza in games will be used differently now, due to him being more fleshed out. Not only does Super add new content, it revitalizes old characters.
At best GT improves Goku, Vegeta, Gogeta, Uub, and Goten. We don't talk about 17 and Pan..
A lot of people joke that Super's content exists for the sole purpose of video games, but a lot of Super's new moves, new unique locations, have that video game feel.
Omega Shenron looks cool. The idea of the Dragon Balls going corrupt and giving birth to evil Shadow Dragons is a cool concept. The Shadow Dragon saga was the only thing I appreciated in GT to be honest.
That was about the popularity. As for the canon stuff we have
Super:
-Outline on a piece of paper by Toriyama
-Characters designed by him
-Main focus on the anime (I know there is a manga too but its mostly to push the anime)
-Made for fanservice and to grab money by Toei.
GT
-Outline on a piece of paper by Toriyama
-Characters designed by him (even that hated Mustache Vegeta)
-Main focus on the anime (if it was made today maybe they'd throw in some manga too)
-Made for fanservice and to grab money by Toei.
As for Broly he kinda is canon at this point, maybe they will never mention him by name but having his face in every kind of game and making Kale which is EXACTLY him kinda makes Broly a legit character.
Now if we're talking stuff like FighterZ that has to make hard choices about what to include, then naw, ain't nobody got time for that.
GT is dumb from top to bottom, but throwing its dumb ideas into equally dumb and content starved video games like Xenoverse and Heroes isn't hurting anything.
Now if we're talking stuff like FighterZ that has to make hard choices about what to include, then naw, ain't nobody got time for that.
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Well that's the thing. Ideally if everyone's favorite characters could get in, then no one would complain, outside of those that really, really hate GT I guess. I guess the general way people would feel GT characters were robbing a potential slot for a Super character would be if anything more than SS4, Omega Shenron, and maybe Pan made it into a game. But for me, that's only if the game in question boasts a large roster. For something like DBFZ, which is guaranteed to have a much smaller one, anything more than SS4 Goku would be irritating to see, and even that's arguably pushing it for some. And the longer Super goes on (including the dub), the more the sentiment will grow in terms of people wanting to ensure that the newer characters make it in.
I 100% buy Baby Pan being stronger than GT Pan, based on her in Super.Cool because GT > Super
Also Pan and Uub >>>>>>>>> garbage Super characters
Why does SSJ4 cause Goku to grow leather pants?