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Prophane33

Member
IT'S FINALLY HERE!

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Im so ready for 2018 now.

Awesome, I haven't seen that yet. I love the text bubble: "I not bad slime! I wireless controller!" Which is a reference to most non-enemy slimes in the series, who usually tell you that they aren't bad.
 
Awesome! I'm waiting for mine to get here.
You're gonna absolutely love it, man. It's so big and awesome.

Awesome, I haven't seen that yet. I love the text bubble: "I not bad slime! I wireless controller!" Which is a reference to most non-enemy slimes in the series, who usually tell you that they aren't bad.
Hahah. Thanks for that. I don't actually speak Japanese so I didn't know what it said.

Enjoy your cumbersome novelty! I know I am. :p
The turbo function is nice on it.
Thanks! I cant wait to bust this baby open and play some games on it.
 
If anyone is looking to import the game, but don't speak Japanese, I've found these two YouTube translated playthroughs to be extremely helpful:

SaltyYen: https://youtu.be/_lFAFEiNlBE
Qinlong Wu: https://youtu.be/LrSZDcZx6Ds

I know less than zero Japanese, but the gameplay is super straightforward, and the translated videos help me get the full story. I just have it up on my iPad and when a cutscenes comes up, I watch the video- easier than a translated guide IMO. I'm absolutely loving this game- the world is so fantastic and gorgeous. If you're itching to play this game, but are worried about being able to follow the story, I say go for it. With a little patience and a YouTube translation, you will be able to get into the gameplay and the story without the guesswork.

Edit: also, probably already somewhere in this thread, but this menu translation was really handy when starting out: http://www.play-asia.com/dragon-quest-xi-menu-translations/5f/74aar
 

Aeana

Member
For the record, Shouta here streamed his entire playthrough and I think he translated all of the story dialog as he played.
 

Shifty1897

Member
Why does the music sound so bad?
Because the composer, Koichi Sugiyama, is a bad person who cares more about selling tickets to live concerts than allowing people to enjoy his music in-game.

Wait, is this a joke? Is the music in the game bad?
 

Ōkami

Member
Some tracks get a better treatment, or at least they sounded fantastic while on headphones, but they save the best for rare ocassions.

Its particularly jarring on the PS4 version as it clashes with the rest of the presentation, but you get used to it.
 

Shouta

Member
It's not a meticulous translation but I did quite a bit of it through the main story. More than enough to help get through it for folks.
 

This sounds pretty interesting, I will check it out later. I don't I think I will be able to enjoy the game to its fullest but being able to understand the story is a pretty big plus in my book.

From what I see the playtroughs are for the ps4 versions, is that the one you're playing?

Also, for the rest of the people playing, what version would be easy to follow for someone who doesn't know how to read japanese?
 

Prophane33

Member
This sounds pretty interesting, I will check it out later. I don't I think I will be able to enjoy the game to its fullest but being able to understand the story is a pretty big plus in my book.

From what I see the playtroughs are for the ps4 versions, is that the one you're playing?

Also, for the rest of the people playing, what version would be easy to follow for someone who doesn't know how to read japanese?

If you don't know how to read Japanese at all, I would assume they would both be equal.

If you can read kana but not any kanji (or want an easier time deciphering the Kanji) go with the 3DS version, which has Furigana for the 3D Mode. (not 2D though)

Anymore knowledge than that and they are about equal. I chose 3DS mostly based off price and extra features (such as 2D mode).
 

Rpgmonkey

Member
Comments on a big late game event I saw yesterday and general second half stuff:

Wow at Veronica and Senya, lol. With everyone getting some kind of power up I was thinking “oh ok Veronica will probably return to her normal age somehow and learn some awesome spell” and I was really surprised that they didn’t go that route.

Not the kind of development I expected them to get, which I find a tiny bit disappointing, but I’m pleased with the overall execution.

Anyway, I finished the last few events and am able to go to the final dungeon, but I’ll get through the remaining quests first today.
 
This sounds pretty interesting, I will check it out later. I don't I think I will be able to enjoy the game to its fullest but being able to understand the story is a pretty big plus in my book.

From what I see the playtroughs are for the ps4 versions, is that the one you're playing?

Also, for the rest of the people playing, what version would be easy to follow for someone who doesn't know how to read japanese?

Yeah, I'm playing on PS4. The high level story is fairly easy to follow regardless of language, but there are definitely objectives and scenarios that are potentially really really difficult to do without a sort of walk through, etc (like find certain ingredients, or do a certain action that is not obvious based on the way the game presents it) but those are rare. In general, I would say the majority of the game is fully playable from what I've played so far (about 8 hours) if you just have a basic grasp of rpgs, or more specifically, previous DQ games. Just take the time at the start to memorize what all the menus do, and how to equip stuff, do combat, etc. and you'll be good to go. Also, if you're in a pinch, google translate (photo mode, not instant) can be helpful to understand certain things, but def should not be leaned on for the majority of translation,

As far as I know the story in 3ds and PS4 are exactly the same. The PS4 version is visually stunning, the key for me was finding a translator who was far in the game, or posting videos at a decent rate, so I don't outpace them, and also a translator that is relatively quick to translate. Some of the translated playthroughs are more detailed in terms of their translation (qinlong Wu) but a little slower, while salty yen for example, is almost instant with his translation, but a little less meticulous player (doesn't talk to all the townspeople, etc.)

Also, the 3ds version is region locked afaik, so you will need a Japanese 3ds or home brew....
 

Holundrian

Unconfirmed Member
equipment spoiler
I love it so much that the best armor changes your appearance. Just got Martina's best armor and it looks so fucking badass.
 
I need some suggestions on what to give my Hero for
the last two boss fights and beyond
. I am leveling a bit and getting good experience but your stats can only do so much.
 

Ōkami

Member
I've belated this for long enough, so one week after beating it I'll go deep with my thoughts of the game.

I'll try to be as spoiler free as possible, but whatever spoilers will be tagged.

Actually I come from seeing the ending again, as well as giving a sort of goodbye to the world, the PS4 I played it on was borrowed and will be returned to its owner tomorrow so I don't really know when I'll get to play it again as I don't really have much in the way of plans of getting a PS4 of my own, DQXI is the only exclusive I was ever interested in, but I digress. the deal is the I'll have a 10000 yen game that I can't play on my JP PSN account.

Anyway, back from being fresh of my first playthrough I was quite glowing of the game, so far as possibly call it the best in the series. I'd like to wait for a year and more people to play it to more properly compare it with the rest of the Dragon Quest series, so while I still think this is a fantastic videogame through and through, I'm not so sure if I'd put it with the hights of the series (III-V) or my personal favorite (VII) However I still stand on saying that its the best JRPG I've played since Final Fantasy IX (though the games aren't similar) so yes, I'd very much say that Dragon Quest XI is a better game than Dragon Quest VIII in everyway, I figure that's what most people are interested on, and the game I will most directly compare it to, as XI on PS4 is quite similar to VIII.

I'll go element from element.

Starting from the world, man, its fantastic, this feels what a fully realized Dragon Quest world should be like in 3D, there's great variety in the world, with each location having its own look, feel and personality, a huge improvement over something like VIII or IX where its mostly samey looking, the game just have an insane level or variety that made it a joy to explore, it also has a lot of verticality unlike the flat worlds of VIII or IX and this actually changes a lot in terms of how the world is designed. While VIII and IX felt more of a 2D map given some elevation this one feels like it was designed to be in 3D in the first place. This however comes with several restrictions as the game doesn't have large areas but rather the world is split into several chunks, so its not an open world game by any means, each area has a designated entrance and exit, and in this regard is way more restrictive than in its predecesors, the actual world you get to explore is smaller than in Dragon Quest VIII and there isn't any kind of huge large open areas, if you've played Dragon Quest Heroes II then XI is not any more open than that, and often not even as open as that.

This segmentation of the world in turn brings loading times, which while aren't long, can get aggravating, getting from town a to town b can sometimes make you go through 4 loading screens, its unlikely you'll get lost to make this bad though as the minimap on the bottom left corner helps out on navigating so you won't need to pop out the main map often, talking about loading, going into and out of battle is quick and painless, so that's great too.

Each location had their own story, be it its own contained story, or one party member would have something special in it, the town design in particular its fantastic, the best I've seen in a game yet, and miles above everything else in the series, towns are typically larger than ever and a lot of fun to explore, the fantastic NPC dialogue mainly highlight it, aside from just exploring I wanted to see what they'd had to say, going into Delcadar for the first time was seriously impressive.

Now about the story, I wouldn't necesarity call it the best story in the series, but its the most elaborate and built upon, the excelent cutscenes help that and makes it the most story a Dragon Quest game has had with also the largest number of cutscenes. Praising those cutscenes again, they're seriously fantastic, that direction is top notch, the vast majority of them are in real time too, there's less than a handful of CG sequences, I honestly like that better because the sudden change in quality can take you out of the moment, also the party appear in cutscenes on the real time ones.

I'll say that the story doesn't really do much outside of what other games do, but it is still expertly executed and there are very much some surprises here and there, its not some mindblowing super original tale but it is nonetheless a very memorable one with plenty of sad, charming, touching and funny moments; its got a great payoff too, definetly worth seeing through the end.

About the party now, as you probably know this one has the largest cast since Dragon Quest IV, which I thought was very interesting, IV has what I'd call the best cast in the series, problem is there's no real standout character there as the game never didicates enough attention to them outside of their own chapters, so I was wondering if we'd get that or the more fleshed out characters of VII and VIII, and well, its right in between. Each character has his or her own story within the game, issue is with so many characters, and with the main story in the way, none get the full attention they should and sometimes take huge breaks within their story with some characters getting way more story than others too.

Each character has their own distinct personality and all are relatable and likable, there was no character I didn't care about, the dialogue each character has its great and there's no more than ever, aside from the party chat option there's the bonfires too adding even more development to them, I'd like if there was more to it than the bonfires, but its good anyway. The story also goes with you having the full party at all times, there's no bar or wagon so no character is outside the story because they weren't on your party.

While Veronica was my favorite character I don't think there was anybody quite as memorable as Yangus or Maribel, still though, except for some questionable fashion choices for Martina I had no trouble with the main party. The NPCs that have their own stories, plus the ones that affect the main story are great too, a huge improvement over IX, and I'd say better than VIII as well, though their stories weren't quite as memorable as the ones of VII for me, except for a couple most are one note too, so even if the characters are cool there's not much to them.

Combat was a lot of fun, this one gives you a huge array of options between characters, spells, skills and weapons everyone here could have taken a completely different approach when building their party. Thus one doesn't have a job system, instead it has what the narutal evolution of the skill system of VIII would be, rather than the weird job skill nonsense of IX. Its similar to a skill tree in which new abilities get available once you purchase some, rather than the more linear progression of VIII you get more control here further opening up to the posibilities. On VIII after a few levels its just better to just stay on the once weapon and max out, here trying out new stuff its much more fun and rewarding, each character gets a healthy ammount of weapons to use too which makes it better.

About the difficulty, well, its pretty easy for the most part, like I died less than a handful of times, and this was for being careless on the most unique encounters rather than anything else, combat is fun, as mentioned above, but you'll have to go deep into the game for the more challenging encounters.

As mentioned before the game has costumes for all characters, and many at that, its nowhere near as deep as IX's though, rather than what its on VIII in which you'll need several equipment on so the character will change, unlike VIII getting a full costume is easy though so there's that too, costumes range from the badass to the funny and ridiculous, its great. The smithing system is also fantastic, replacing the alchemy pot of VIII and IX here you can smith certain items to create new ones, or improve current items (though sadly, there's a limit) the whole system is more involved than the alchemy pot making it much more satisfying to create stuff, the one drawback is that you can just experiment at your leasure, you need the recipe to make the item which I thought was an unnecesary restriction.

Now the music, and the weakest aspect of the game, now the actual soundtrack isn't too bad, but I'd say its rather weak, there's some great stuff here though, in particular the later half of the game has some hauntingly beautiful melodies, the battle system is also really catchy making fighting more fun, but apart from that the rest can go from forgettable to bland, many tracks feel like what Dragon Quest parody music would be like, also similar to IX the game reuses a lot of music, and I mean a lot, way more than IX, it feels like 1/3 of the soundtrack its of old tracks, the remixes are great and all but still. The actual issue is the quality of the sound, its midi music, and not of the highest quality, its very jarring in comparison with the rest of the presentation of the game, the rest of the sound quality of the game is fantastic though, all sound effect sound great, no issue there.

Finally, the presentation and performance, this is a beautiful game to look at, the details of all locations is great, the lighting is great, the texture work is great not much issues, the problem is the game doesn't look to hot up close, there are cerain scenes when the camera gets too close to something and you can see the faults, like textures not looking to good, or some low poli models (in comparison to the rest of the game of course) but all characters, even the simplest of NPCs look great, all monsters look great and everything animates fantastically, I have no complaints there. As mentioned before, the only sore thumb of the presentation is the music but on the visual side its a great through and through. As far as performance, apart from some mild frame rate drops and some pop in there's not much of an issue, I found no glitches or bugs or anything that needed a patch, and 2 weeks later, we're yet to see one.

I've played for around 100 hours in the end, getting at level 99, doing the more interesting sidequests and completing the main game plust the post game and I can say that this was a fantastic experience through and through and what truly feels like an evolution of Dragon Quest, while still looking fondly to the past, even with all of its improvements it still plays like a classic Dragon Quest game through and through. It really feels like they looked back, to each individual game and see what made them great and implemented that in the game because you feel traces of all of them in this game, for long time fans in particular there's a lot of love here. Its no spoiler that Dragon Quest III is the game with the most influence, if you like it you'd love this one.

If you like JRPGs, hell if you like videogames, you owe it to yourself to play Dragon Quest XI.
 

F4r0_Atak

Member
Sup guys... just started playing my digital copy of DQ11 today and I managed to get to the first city with the castle. There is a guy who's looking for "books" I think, but I don't know where to look. Am I looking for the right thing? Just to clarify, in the same city, there was this quest where a little girl lost her kitten, which you can find on a rooftop nearby her location.

I think I need help with quest #002.
 

cube001

Member
Sup guys... just started playing my digital copy of DQ11 today and I managed to get to the first city with the castle. There is a guy who's looking for "books" I think, but I don't know where to look. Am I looking for the right thing? Just to clarify, in the same city, there was this quest where a little girl lost her kitten, which you can find on a rooftop nearby her location.

I think I need help with quest #002.

You can find the book in the most eastern house in the city, there are two book shelves in that house, one in each floor, and if I remember correctly one of them has it.
 

Danjin44

The nicest person on this forum
What I can understand from impressions is DQ11 is much closer to DQ8 than other series.
To me thats great news because I'm really enjoying my time with DQ8.
 
So it's Final Fantasy
VI
.

So I take it this is part 2. And then there's effectively a part 3?
I have, what, another 25 hours of gameplay?
 

demonkaze

Member
Been thinking about importing the strategy guide for this. What's the level of Japanese like in them and is it all text or are there images too? Also wondering where is the best place to order it from?
 

Hasemo

(;・∀・)ハッ?
So it's Final Fantasy
VI
.

So I take it this is part 2. And then there's effectively a part 3?
I have, what, another 25 hours of gameplay?
It's 50-60 hours to finish the main game and about 20-40 for the post game. The latter mostly varies by how much/how effectively you grind and how many optional tasks you're willing to do.
Been thinking about importing the strategy guide for this. What's the level of Japanese like in them and is it all text or are there images too? Also wondering where is the best place to order it from?
I haven't seen the actual guides, but just a heads up - if you wait for a bit longer, you should be able to get the "complete" guide. Those sold on release day don't have all the information.
 

Necro900

Member
It may not be a translation guide, but I keep a deck with a lot of the vocabulary of the game.
I can export it from my phone and upload it.
I definitely know it's not the same but it's something that could possibly help


This would really help me greatly! I'll get the game in a few days, and I've been refreshing my (rusty) kanji memory. You would have my eternal gratitude, for what it's worth :p
 
It actually took me 80 hours to finish the main game but at least 12 of those were spent in the casino lol. That also includes doing all the quests, finding all the bowgun targets(maybe I'm just bad at searching but I'm pretty sure this took me over 5 hours alone), and such. Just the basics.
 

Hasemo

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It actually took me 80 hours to finish the main game but at least 12 of those were spent in the casino lol. That also includes doing all the quests, finding all the bowgun targets(maybe I'm just bad at searching but I'm pretty sure this took me over 5 hours alone), and such. Just the basics.
Main game took me about 60, maybe a bit more and I was able to get one jackpot in the casino (~2 hours) and I did all sidequests. Didn't bother with bowgun targets though :(
 

demonkaze

Member
Can someone spoiler tag what I get for these bowgun targets other than a trophy I assume? Not sure if I should go for it or not. Think I'll wait on the complete guide then, when is it out?

Was also wondering about the DQX PS4 beta, is the IP block there still?
 

Hasemo

(;・∀・)ハッ?
Can someone spoiler tag what I get for these bowgun targets other than a trophy I assume? Not sure if I should go for it or not. Think I'll wait on the complete guide then, when is it out?

Was also wondering about the DQX PS4 beta, is the IP block there still?
You get
different kinds of seeds (x4) for each area. Getting all targets gets you a 幸せの帽子, but you can also get it from strong Metal Kings in post game (I think I got 4+ while leveling), so if you're doing it just for the items, I don't think it's worth the trouble
.

The official guide is coming out on August 29th. (3DS version).
 

Gu4n

Member
Can someone spoiler tag what I get for these bowgun targets other than a trophy I assume? Not sure if I should go for it or not. Think I'll wait on the complete guide then, when is it out?
You get a しあわせのぼうし for completing the Bowgun Adventure quest. Official guides are out on August 29th.

Edit: Welp, ninja'd by Hasebro.
 
This would really help me greatly! I'll get the game in a few days, and I've been refreshing my (rusty) kanji memory. You would have my eternal gratitude, for what it's worth :p

No problem.I'm halfway through the game now, but I'll be leaving for vacations today.
I'll return next week, so as soon as I come back I'll post the deck and update it as I progress through the game.
 

cube001

Member
Early 2nd half spoilers:

So I just arrived to the second Casino and tried the first 100 coin slot i saw, just wanted to do a few rounds with my 2000 coins... 15 minutes later, I hit the jackpot 5 times in addition to countless other >X100 winnings, I have more than 2.5M right now, is this normal? Or should I just stick to this machine until my luck runs out XD

Edit:
6 jackpots now
Edit2:
7... what is going on. Now 10 jackpots, and standing on more than 4.8M
 
Early 2nd half spoilers:

So I just arrived to the second Casino and tried the first 100 coin slot i saw, just wanted to do a few rounds with my 2000 coins... 15 minutes later, I hit the jackpot 5 times in addition to countless other >X100 winnings, I have more than 2.5M right now, is this normal? Or should I just stick to this machine until my luck runs out XD

Edit:
6 jackpots now
Edit2:
7... what is going on. Now 10 jackpots, and standing on more than 4.8M

You're about to be pissed off.
 

muteki

Member
Is there a quest status list in the game? I picked up one in town and I think I'm in the area it references but can't remember exactly what it wanted me to do. Poked around the menus a bit but didn't see anything.
 

Aeana

Member
Is there a quest status list in the game? I picked up one in town and I think I'm in the area it references but can't remember exactly what it wanted me to do. Poked around the menus a bit but didn't see anything.

Yes. Find せんれき in the menu, and then クエストリスト. It will even let you know if there are quests in areas you can visit but haven't picked up -- the ?????s will be white instead of gray, and moving your cursor over them will say where the quest is.
 

yankee666

Member
I just finished the 3DS version. What a great game, just lovely.

Now i dont know if i should start the PS4 version on my 1080P TV or wait till next month when im planinng to buy a 4K HDR TV (i have a PS4 PRO).
Does the game have any enhancements for the PRO?
 

muteki

Member
Yes. Find せんれき in the menu, and then クエストリスト. It will even let you know if there are quests in areas you can visit but haven't picked up -- the ?????s will be white instead of gray, and moving your cursor over them will say where the quest is.

Ah thanks, didn't think to look there. Part of the problem is I'm playing along with/translating for my son who is nearly 4 and doesn't put up with menu browsing much. All he wants to do is run around and fight lions, rabbits and pickles.
 

Aeana

Member
I just finished the 3DS version. What a great game, just lovely.

Now i dont know if i should start the PS4 version on my 1080P TV or wait till next month when im planinng to buy a 4K HDR TV (i have a PS4 PRO).
Does the game have any enhancements for the PRO?

Yes, it runs at a higher resolution on Pro.
 

Prophane33

Member
You get
different kinds of seeds (x4) for each area. Getting all targets gets you a 幸せの帽子, but you can also get it from strong Metal Kings in post game (I think I got 4+ while leveling), so if you're doing it just for the items, I don't think it's worth the trouble
.

The official guide is coming out on August 29th. (3DS version).

Wait for the complete guide, especially as the V-Jump one (while one of their best day one guides ever) is incomplete in parts, and I don't believe is in print anymore (at least on Amazon it's sold at a nasty markup). If you need a guide RIGHT now and are worried about Japanese ability, there are some great Japanese wikis out there that you could at least use translation tools on.
 

demonkaze

Member
Can anyone tell me what Silvia's dances do? I think Tap dance is evasion+ right? And I know what hustle dance does but not sure on madapani(?) dance is.
 

Hasemo

(;・∀・)ハッ?
Can anyone tell me what Silvia's dances do? I think Tap dance is evasion+ right? And I know what hustle dance does but not sure on madapani(?) dance is.
I think that one confuses enemies, but I might be completely wrong.
 
I don't think anyone can help with this but I'll ask anyway. Anyone know a good spot in the ocean where サイレス spawns?

I've been at it for 2 hours now just aimlessly wandering around the outer sea with no luck
 
Attempted to fight the
last two boss fights
and lost. I need to level up more and can do so easily because
I have gotten lucky killing Metal Kings
. I also need better equipment because I have yet to craft anything at all and I am burning a hole in my inventory. What should I make first?
 
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