TheFLYINGManga_Ka
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Dragon Quest 9 |OT| Last chance* to shine
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Aeana said:
Well technically that doesn't mean they aren't "random" really. I mean, we're still talking tens of thousands of possible maps, and they wouldn't have been designed by hand. It sounds more like a random generator that takes a seed value as the number and type. That way you will always end up with the same result given the same seed value, which allows them to use less memory to store the received map data.
But yeah, it does make it relatively easy to identify a certain map and insert the code via a hack that way too. But at the same time, it makes it more difficult to generate a map with desired elements unless you've already mapped what every single value relates to, which is a massive undertaking hardly worth doing.
Anyways, I guess they reason the who idea of generating your own maps irks me is because of the way it destroys the social aspect. To me it seems like the nature of tag mode would allow one player to stumble upon an amazing map, which would get shared and propagated among other users with their name attached to it. To my understanding that's how it worked in Japan, right? I suppose if you have absolutely zero chance of encountering anyone who plays the game, that would be your only way to experience this feature, it's just a shame it would have to come to that.
The real issue here is that there's just a lot more rural area in North America than in Japan.
I live in a county with a population around 3,000 people, the nearest sizable town is about 20 miles away and only has a population of about 9,000. I have to travel about 50 miles to get to a real city, which is where the nearest GameStop participating in the event is.
Needless to say, other than possibly attending that event if I have any other reason to head that far out, I have literally no chance of using tag mode unless I have local friends who will buy the game (which I don't.)
For me, every new game that comes out with local wireless multiplayer and no online might as well have no multiplayer at all. Except that they do, and I'm missing out on content because of it.
I live in a county with a population around 3,000 people, the nearest sizable town is about 20 miles away and only has a population of about 9,000. I have to travel about 50 miles to get to a real city, which is where the nearest GameStop participating in the event is.
Needless to say, other than possibly attending that event if I have any other reason to head that far out, I have literally no chance of using tag mode unless I have local friends who will buy the game (which I don't.)
For me, every new game that comes out with local wireless multiplayer and no online might as well have no multiplayer at all. Except that they do, and I'm missing out on content because of it.
Aeana said:
I find it disheartening that they did not implement an online multiplayer system. I mean they went ahead and made one for FFCC Echoes of time. Beat it from start to finish online. It's a much lower budget game that no one cared about. DQ9 won't be as popular in NA as it was in Japan so finding players will be difficult. They worked so hard on multiplayer features that to see them unused is quite depressing. At least from my understanding your not missing any content? You can still get treasure maps in the game, you only can't experience the random factor that is introduced by sharing it with friends right? MGS Peace Walker is another kind of those game. At least I was able to complete every missions and extra missions alone.
It's fascinating how different the experience can be depending on where you live. After I spent 50-60 hours on the main quest, I probably spent another...I dunno, 100 or so hours just trading maps in tag mode and playing with those. That was by -far- the best part of the game for me. I realize you can't all experience it in the same way living in the US (or wherever -- basically not Japan), but I definitely feel for you, because it's an amazing experience.
Here's another review: http://www.videogamer.com/ds/dragon_quest_ix/review.html
Guy sounds kind of bitter, but it's a mostly fair review. He gave it an 8.
Guy sounds kind of bitter, but it's a mostly fair review. He gave it an 8.
LALILULELO
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Anyone knows if it possible to link up with he JP version for multiplay?
slaughterking
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I think with DQ I will still give tag mode a chance. The likelihood of me trading even one map with someone is virtually zero, but how glorious would it be if it actually works even just one time!john tv said:
LALILULELO
Neo Member
Aeana said:
Wife is heart broken now..
Another unfortunate thing regarding how tag mode won't be quite as rivetting in the US as in Japan is because the sheer number of people will be far less in a vastly larger country. Japan sold in the millions whereas here it will be lucky to sell even half a million (and I'm not counting on that). So the combination of an extremely dense population with millions having the game versus a very spaced out population with thousands having the game makes it an unfortunate feature for Americans.
Not saying it won't be awesome when it does all come together, though. The GameStop event is one way to push the social aspect. And who knows, even living in a city with ~75,000 might provide some pleasant surprises .
I'm also trying to convince anyone I can think of who might want play the game to buy it so we can all play together
Not saying it won't be awesome when it does all come together, though. The GameStop event is one way to push the social aspect. And who knows, even living in a city with ~75,000 might provide some pleasant surprises
.I'm also trying to convince anyone I can think of who might want play the game to buy it so we can all play together
Freyjadour
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"For the first time in the series, your party is entirely comprised of mute adventurers"Aeana said:
Someone didn't do their homework.
Yeah, that's probably not enough. I was thinking maybe if I took it with me as I drove around there might be a chance of tagging someone, but 100 feet wouldn't reach most buildings. I might have a tough time explaining "Tag Mode" to the police officer when I'm reported for wandering around outside an elementary school.zigg said:
Freyjadour
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If it was a trivial piece of info about DQVI or something, I'd understand, but 3 did pretty well for the U.S. didn't it? I've known quite a few who started DQ with 3 GBC.Aeana said:
botticus said:
It'd probably be cut down being in the car, too. When I was playing Treasure World (which isn't quite the same thing, since the DS isn't actually broadcasting, just listening for wireless beacons) I found I'd find more "stars" by opening the window and holding it up a little. And that's enough public exposition about how many pedestrians I put in danger back then. :lol
Unrelated, but on-topic: I've never played a mainline DQ game before and I'm leaning pretty seriously toward picking this one up next week.
vagabondarts
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lol don't feel bad you weren't the only one hahahazigg said:
IIRC The World Ends With You had some sort of pin experience accrual that was relegated to it's equivalent of a tag mode, but allowed the game to basically ping with any other form of Nintendo wireless game/device. I'm fairly sure I would ping with my Wii when at home! I can see why DQ9 doesn't work that way, but it is a shame that it doesn't.
So... Any broken street dates yet?
So... Any broken street dates yet?
I have a question:
When I change a class, I read in Nintendo Power that it starts the character's level back at 1. I was wondering if when I change classes back to the class I was just at, if I'll still be at level 1 or at the level I was at when I changed. For example
I'm class X and at level 5
I change to class Y and am back at level 1
When I change back to class X, will I be at level 5 again or at level 1
So, in other words, will it revert me back to level 1 everytime I change classes even if I've progressed quite a bit in one class?
When I change a class, I read in Nintendo Power that it starts the character's level back at 1. I was wondering if when I change classes back to the class I was just at, if I'll still be at level 1 or at the level I was at when I changed. For example
I'm class X and at level 5
I change to class Y and am back at level 1
When I change back to class X, will I be at level 5 again or at level 1
So, in other words, will it revert me back to level 1 everytime I change classes even if I've progressed quite a bit in one class?
El Pescado
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Anyone found any stores in NJ that have broken street yet. The place where I normally go for stuff like this doesn't stock DS games. :/
Anybody else going to the NYC launch event? I'm highly considering it... too bad Horii is only signing autographs for the first 30 people on line. NYC lines get REALLY long really fast... and I'm too lazy to stay awake and wait on line for like a few hours.