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[NYCmetsfan]

There will be one juror who can't convict. Quote me

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[dave is ok]

I think what bothers me more than anything is that he's still alive to begin with.

If he weren't a white 20 something, he'd have been gunned down before he could say "I surre". Let alone taken to fucking Burger King, lord knows that'll piss me off long after he gets the needle to the arm.

If you're talking to police, giving information and confessing to murders, you're going to get a free meal from cops. That's the way it works. They didn't know for certain if he acted alone.

The amount of times I see the Burger King thing brought up like he was being rewarded is ridiculous. It's an interrogation tactic, nothing more.

There will be one juror who can't convict. Quote me

Quoted

 

[Xe4]

Will wait for the end to feel whatever.



As a society we should be beyond a lot of things but we're not. Our next president shares a lot of the beliefs Roof has.

Agreed, but I don't see how that affects my point. The push for progress and justice in this country should not be slowed because it would mean we could not see people we dislike suffer.

 

[Lightning Count]

Update: 28/33 counts guilty so far.

Is there a stream of the proceedings?

 

[NandoGip]

If you're talking to police, giving information and confessing to murders, you're going to get a free meal from cops. That's the way it works. They didn't know for certain if he acted alone.

The amount of times I see the Burger King thing brought up like he was being rewarded is ridiculous. It's an interrogation tactic, nothing more.

The point is, if it was a black guy in a white church, the black dude would have been bombed by a remote controlled robot.

 

[A Link to the Past]

If you're talking to police, giving information and confessing to murders, you're going to get a free meal from cops. That's the way it works. They didn't know for certain if he acted alone.

The amount of times I see the Burger King thing brought up like he was being rewarded is ridiculous. It's an interrogation tactic, nothing more.



Quoted

The point that was being made was that Roof survived his attack where a black shooter may not have.

Also Angelus didn't specify this trial :v Maybe it's an off-topic post!

 

[Massive Duck. C.M.]

Agreed, but I don't see how that affects my point. The push for progress and justice in this country should not be slowed because it would mean we could not see people we dislike suffer.

I'm saying there's no point in appealing to the better nature of man/society because these things no longer matter in America.

At any rate, glad to see that he's been officially pronounced guilty.

 

[Ourobolus]

UPDATE: Guilty on all counts.

 

[RPGCrazied]

Told you!

Him walking was not an option, EVER.

 

[Chococat]

UPDATE: Guilty on all counts.

Good.

 

[Mudcrab]

There will be one juror who can't convict. Quote me

Maybe if he was a cop.

 

[Frozenprince]

If you're talking to police, giving information and confessing to murders, you're going to get a free meal from cops. That's the way it works. They didn't know for certain if he acted alone.

The amount of times I see the Burger King thing brought up like he was being rewarded is ridiculous. It's an interrogation tactic, nothing more.

It's an interrogation tactic reserved for white people. That's the point. They stopped and got him food, they were gracious, they got his information peacefully.

If he were two shades darker he'd have a boot on his neck and a bullet in his back.

 

[Xe4]

There will be one juror who can't convict. Quote me

He's been found guilty: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-...ng&ns_source=twitter&ns_linkname=news_central

Glad he's guilty. No surprises here, but it's nice to are justice was done.

I'm saying there's no point in appealing to the better nature of man/society because these things no longer matter in America.

At any rate, glad to see that he's been officially pronounced guilty.

These things don't matter, so we need to make them matter. And it starts in cases like this. Remember, Dukakis got shit on because he beleived in societal justice over personal vengence. I'd like to think we've moved past the 1980's.

 

[Lightning Count]

Faith partially restored in the US justice system.

Now order the retrial of the cop in the George Walter Scott shooting, if any racists derail the case turn their asses over to the feds for an investigation.

 

[BitStyle]

UPDATE: Guilty on all counts.

Good.
Rightfully buried

 

[Ricky Ricardo]

UPDATE: Guilty on all counts.

Some good news, at least.

 

[Frozenprince]

These things don't matter, so we need to make them matter. And it starts in cases like this. Remember, Dukakis got shit on because he beleived in societal justice over personal vengence. I'd like to think we've moved past the 1980's.

The war on drugs is ramping up again, Russia is in the midst of a demographic and economic crisis and getting testy in the ME, we elected a racist TV star president and we're due for a recession to hit sooner rather than later due to the absurd way our economy is run.

The 80's never left.

 

[dave is ok]

It's an interrogation tactic reserved for white people. That's the point. They stopped and got him food, they were gracious, they got his information peacefully.

If he were two shades darker he'd have a boot on his neck and a bullet in his back.

It's impossible to argue against a hypothetical. The guy who got blown up by a robot was not surrendering, he was holding a gun and shooting at cops - which was his entire plan.

Even Dzhokhar Tsarnaev got taken alive.

 

[Pai Pai Master]

Never thought about it like that. I'm sure even if it is easier in any aspect, there's still a lot of procedure to go through or maybe even having to explain a charge.

Actually that comes later, on the 3rd. What they're doing now is just going through each charge one by one, and there may be a small disagreement about one individual charge or another. He's going to be found guilty on the vast majority of them, though.

Yeah I should have been clearer but what I meant was that the process as a whole can't possibly just be expedited because of how bad the crimes were. Regardless of what he did there is a process in place for a reason, as much as we might want to say "well this guy should obviously be put to death let's start warming up the ol' lethal injection chamber"

 

[entremet]

Does the jury hand over the DP or the judge in this state?

 

[Mammoth Jones]

The war on drugs is ramping up again, Russia is in the midst of a demographic and economic crisis and getting testy in the ME, we elected a racist TV star president and we're due for a recession to hit sooner rather than later due to the absurd way our economy is run.

The 80's never left.

The moment the economy hits the shitter there will be many more Dylan Roof's ready to blame "the other" for their problems...

Does the jury hand over the DP or the judge in this state?

Jury.

 

[BronsonLee]

Even Dzhokhar Tsarnaev got taken alive.

Though to be fair that was after they surrounded him, shot him a bunch, and he hid in a boat

 

[Bad_Boy]

I'm torn.

Let him rot in prison the rest of his life, getting manhandled and tossed around?

Or save money and let the monster die?

 

[Xe4]

The war on drugs is ramping up again, Russia is in the midst of a demographic and economic crisis and getting testy in the ME, we elected a racist TV star president and we're due for a recession to hit sooner rather than later due to the absurd way our economy is run.

The 80's never left.

We have, however made strides in abolishing the death penalty and in attempting to reduce false convictions. South Carolina will be one of the last states to abolish the death penalty, largely on the back of Dylan Roof and others like him, whilst all the other horrible things the death penalty does will remain.

I'm torn.

Let him rot in prison the rest of his life, getting manhandled and tossed around?

Or save money and let the monster die?

The death penalty costs more than life in prison.

 

[Angry Grimace]

Faith partially restored in the US justice system.

Now order the retrial of the cop in the George Walter Scott shooting, if any racists derail the case turn their asses over to the feds for an investigation.

It's gonna take a lot more than the conviction of a a dude who admits to being a mass murderer in open court to restore my faith in the criminal justice system.

 

[Bad_Boy]

W

The death penalty costs more than life in prison.

interesting. let him rot then.

 

[Ourobolus]

I'm torn.

Let him rot in prison the rest of his life, getting manhandled and tossed around?

Or save money and let the monster die?

This is debateable due to the appeals process.

 

[Jeffolation]

I'm torn.

Let him rot in prison the rest of his life, getting manhandled and tossed around?

Or save money and let the monster die?

I don't think high profile people like this ever see gen pop, although I could be wrong?

 

[NYCmetsfan]

Does the jury hand over the DP or the judge in this state?

Its a federal case but its the jury

 

[Jenov]

It's impossible to argue against a hypothetical. The guy who got blown up by a robot was not surrendering, he was holding a gun and shooting at cops - which was his entire plan.

Even Dzhokhar Tsarnaev got taken alive.

Dzhokhar was just lucky as fuck. They shot his ass up, he ended up with multiple injuries, including a bullet through his face.

 

[D1renegade]

Off with his head

 

[TalonJH]

He deserves life in prison. Death gives him an out.

I want every day to suck for this man. I've always felt like death is an out. Give us a third choice.

 

[Empyrean Heaven]

I'm usually a pretty peaceful guy, and definitely dislike the death penalty.

That said, nothing has shown me that this boy is anything short of evil incarnate.

I hope he burns in hell.

 

[capitalCORN]

I'm no proponent of the death penalty, but his victims got no less.

 

[vainya]

His defense should have let him plead guilty like he wanted. This trial just made sure that he'll rot for the rest of his life in prison. The death penalty will probably never be carried out because of appeals and drug shortages but taking away his freedoms is fine with me.

I'm also glad that some media outlets are calling him a white supremacist, now all they need to do is call him a terrorist

 

[Hazmat]

I don't think high profile people like this ever see gen pop, although I could be wrong?

I would imagine he ends up in the ADX Florence supermax federal prison in Colorado.

 

[Massive Duck. C.M.]

Pretty sure Roof wants the death penalty for the quick out and the martyrdom. I'd rather he slowly lose his mind in prison and die unknown and without media slobbering over it

 

[Frozenprince]

I would imagine he ends up in the ADX Florence supermax federal prison in Colorado.

Yep, gets to live in solitary for the rest of his life more likely.

 

[Netherscourge]

FINALLY, some justice.

Hopefully the Warden or Corrections Officers wont buy him Burger King on his way to hell.

 

[RPGCrazied]

FINALLY, some justice.

Hopefully the Warden or Corrections Officers wont buy him Burger King on his way to hell.

Anything other than bread/water is to much for this lunatic.

 

[Cerium]

Yep, gets to live in solitary for the rest of his life more likely.

Solitary is indeed a fate worse than death.

 

[Trouble]

This is debateable due to the appeals process.

I thought it was well proven that executing someone is far more expensive than keeping them in jail for life.

 

[phanphare]

good. let that bastard rot for the rest of his miserable life.

 

[Stinkles]

bye felicia

 

[NastyBook]

Quoted

Somehow doubt Angelus is mad to be wrong.

UPDATE: Guilty on all counts.

BYE, BITCH.

 

[Ourobolus]

I thought it was well proven that executing someone is far more expensive than keeping them in jail for life.

Well in general it is, but the appeals process takes varying amounts of time/money.

 

[Vicetrailia]

Good.

 

[Onemic]

Pretty sure Roof wants the death penalty for the quick out and the martyrdom. I'd rather he slowly lose his mind in prison and die unknown and without media slobbering over it

this

 

[entremet]

Eh. I'm torn.

I'm anti death penalty due its racist application, but I won't shed a tear if he gets it.

However, it seems he wants it, so he shouldn't get it and become a martyr.

 

[Strike]

No shit. At least there's still some justice in this world. Good riddance.