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EA Confirms Mirror's Edge 2 Is In Development
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swamplord666
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I was really hoping they would continue with ME. It had one of the(if not the) best concept and art direction of 2008 and i was disappointed that it so many issues. With a few design changes and whatnot this could turn into a brilliant game!
Square Triangle
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Blah lame
Dedication Through Light
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CartridgeBlower said:
Super fast, the game came out in 2008 and it was announced in like February that it hit 1 Million, long before the game reached its current 19.99 price point. We can assume that it also did not cost them that much to make, and seeing how so few games actually ever reach a million units sold, Im quite sure this game does not embody the definition of "tanking financially" nor does it receiving "mostly positive reviews" embody "tanking critically".
But anyway, its EA and they kept prolonging the NFS series, so I guess ME just needed around 500,000 copies to get a sequel
Metalmurphy
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I don't recall any QTEs in ME either. And if your going through the game by trial and error then you're doing it wrong... Once you have all the move sets memorized you just need the skill to use them properly. There's TONS of ways to get past most of the levels.
PedroLumpy
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RJT said:
It's possible the
run in you have with Ropeburn
Metalmurphy said:
Indeed. I was hesitant of buying it earlier this year when impressions and reviews stated the "trial and error" thing. No way. The gameplay is fluid once you get hang of it and it depends of skill, not of luck.
I'm really excited for Mirror's Edge 2, just hoping it still will be very well optimized on PC (the best running UE3 game that I've played here)
EDIT:
crispyben said:
Why? Mirror's Edge 2D, the browser-based game from the creator of Fancy Pants Adventures looked MUCH better.
SolidSnakex
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I don't see what's trial and error about ME. The controls are very precise and you even have runners vision (assuming you don't turn it off) to help you through the levels. It's one of those games where if you die then it's your fault.
jaundicejuice
Member
Quick time events? In Mirror's Edge? What now?
twinturbo2
butthurt Heat fan
I dig it about as much as your avatar.Larson Conway said:
Those complaining about trial and error, just don't understand the game. I never had to experiment with what I had to do or where I had to go. Whenever I screwed up, it was my fault, not the game's.
Agreed that the story could use a makeover though, and for the most part, I didn't have too much of a problem with combat, though it could certainly be tweaked.
Can't wait to see what ME2 has in store, and I hope the PC version releases at the same time as the console versions. Wishful thinking?
Agreed that the story could use a makeover though, and for the most part, I didn't have too much of a problem with combat, though it could certainly be tweaked.
Can't wait to see what ME2 has in store, and I hope the PC version releases at the same time as the console versions. Wishful thinking?
itsinmyveins
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datamage said:
Eh, the game is clearly stacked highly against the player at times. Of course I control the character, but when two snipers hit me simultaneously in the air while jumping past an opening ending in me dying instantely I'm gonna think that's quite cheap. Being dropped in a room with several armed enemies and no knowledge of where to go isn't exactly easy either. There's definitely some partws of the game that comes of as nearly trial and error.
Dedication Through Light said:Super fast, the game came out in 2008 and it was announced in like February that it hit 1 Million, long before the game reached its current 19.99 price point. We can assume that it also did not cost them that much to make, and seeing how so few games actually ever reach a million units sold, Im quite sure this game does not embody the definition of "tanking financially" nor does it receiving "mostly positive reviews" embody "tanking critically".
But anyway, its EA and they kept prolonging the NFS series, so I guess ME just needed around 500,000 copies to get a sequel
http://www.edge-online.com/news/mirrors-edge-projects-3m-salesMarketing Director for DICE said:
Not bad, Mirror's Edge only underperformed EA's conservative projections by a mere 2 million. It's crazy for anyone to think a first-person platformer would sell anywhere near that these days but EA must have thought they had a surefire hit on their hands with Mirror's Edge. They kept linking Dead Space and Mirror's Edge to the huge success of recent new IPs, such as Bioshock and Assassin's Creed. They had a huge loss that year and were very dependent on the runaway success of their new IPs. I don't think the game cost that much to develop and market but they needed a successful first entry for the sequels to leapfrog on. It's going to be very difficult to get new people to play the sequel if people were burned on the original or never even played it.
While EA thinks Dead Space was a matter of bad timing, they believe Mirror's Edge suffered from design issues. I'd like to think they'll address some frustrating gameplay (like Assassin's Creed 2) but I wouldn't be surprised if we see the sequel go an action heavy route with a bigger emphasis on gunplay rather than evasion.
Zombie James
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Grecco said:
Do you know what 2D is? The iPhone game is 3D, third-person.
riceandbeans
Member
The first game was fun, but the cramped office sections were just too much of a pain in the ass that broke up the pace with all those officers and their twitchy trigger fingers. It felt like a guessing game where to go and everything had to be specific. Go to the wrong door or elevator and it's game over. The most fun I had was on the rooftops, where I could just run, explore, and had some space to screw around.
ShockingAlberto
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Off the top of my head, the "boss fight" against the wrestler was definitely a poorly done QTE.RJT said:
onken
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I love the combat as it is, it was fun and satisfying (maybe make the disarm window a bit more generous).
If you're even thinking the words "third person" then please shoot yourself in the face.
More of the same please Dice, just make the campaign longer
Yeah you have to press triangle once, such a pain in the ass. I want my money back.
If you're even thinking the words "third person" then please shoot yourself in the face.
More of the same please Dice, just make the campaign longer
ShockingAlberto said:
Yeah you have to press triangle once, such a pain in the ass. I want my money back.
Dedication Through Light
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Johann said:
The only thing they need to change I guess, well the first game seemed like a huge concept design anyway (a well put together one)
1. Some Multiplayer
2. Lengthier Story
3. Better Presentation Style of the Story
chun li's thighs
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Rindain said:
This would be a bad idea. I saw 3rd person videos of the game (hack?) and she doesn't look good. Especially since her limb movements are exaggerated to look better in first person. Seen in 3rd person, she looks awkward. This would all be apparent with mirrors in the game.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t3VnWYt9flM
chun li's thighs said:
Than maybe they should make her model better? Can't be that there isn't a way to make it work both in 3rd-Person and 1st-Person. C'mon you can't name a game Mirrors Edge without one fucking single mirror. That, the short lenght and the ugly cutscenes were my only complains about the first game.
Mirror's Edge threads are rad because they're always a good reference point. For example:
Thanks, OP!
If it wasn't for this thread, I would see the Grim Fandango + Guybrush Threepwood avatar and assume that this poster knows what he's talking about. Now I know better!painey said:
Thanks, OP!
Multiplayer would be awesome if they could work out the 3rd person view animation .
Have no guns, just a foot race among different players. Have a map, which has bunch of different waypoints. When the map starts it picks 5 waypoints from the pool and their order. Players then race to each point. Since each race would be random you couldn't really have the best route always picked, you'd have to know all the little intricacies of the map.
Have no guns, just a foot race among different players. Have a map, which has bunch of different waypoints. When the map starts it picks 5 waypoints from the pool and their order. Players then race to each point. Since each race would be random you couldn't really have the best route always picked, you'd have to know all the little intricacies of the map.
While I'm glad this is actually confirmed, I'm also afraid that EA could casual-ify the sequel.
A lot of people got burned on how surprisingly hardcore Mirror's Edge was. What I liked about that game was that it didn't hold your hand at all as opposed to the recent Prince of Persia. EA could very well compromise that to make it more accessible. I just hope they keep it accessible in the right way.
ME1's controls are incredibly simple if you've played FPSs but the game's system left a lot of room for skill and so few games do it that elegantly. I even liked the core system of the combat even if it wasn't implemented in the best way.
People have been able to get through Mirror's Edge without engaging in combat at all. EA just needs to make it easier to do that in the second game.
A lot of people got burned on how surprisingly hardcore Mirror's Edge was. What I liked about that game was that it didn't hold your hand at all as opposed to the recent Prince of Persia. EA could very well compromise that to make it more accessible. I just hope they keep it accessible in the right way.
ME1's controls are incredibly simple if you've played FPSs but the game's system left a lot of room for skill and so few games do it that elegantly. I even liked the core system of the combat even if it wasn't implemented in the best way.
People have been able to get through Mirror's Edge without engaging in combat at all. EA just needs to make it easier to do that in the second game.
I should look up a speedrun, then. Was this on hard, normal, or easy? How do you do that on Heat with the three guards and the pipes (I suspect if you're lucky you just nearly die while climbing)? How do you do it with the parking garage and the really slowly-turning valves next to the super-machine gun guard?RedSwirl said:
demosthenes
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Question on ME for anyone that beat it.
Near the end of the game in the server room you have 4 roaming guards and 1 stationary guard with the M60. I can take out the 4 guards but I'm having trouble w/ the M60 guard. Trouble = like 8 deaths. I'm trying for the no gun trophy but I can't get anywhere near him without him killing me, advice?
Near the end of the game in the server room you have 4 roaming guards and 1 stationary guard with the M60. I can take out the 4 guards but I'm having trouble w/ the M60 guard. Trouble = like 8 deaths. I'm trying for the no gun trophy but I can't get anywhere near him without him killing me, advice?
Lostconfused
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Look up a video for a speed run of the room. I had the same issue and it helped me. Your problem is that you didn't notice that there is a spot from where you can jump up right next to him. I am pretty sure this is the only way you can actually get close to him because otherwise he just kills you before you get to him.demosthenes said:
faceless007
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That's...weird. I assume it's because that's also the model and animations used for the game's first-person view, but because you're looking down at it from a narrower FOV, you don't see the weirdness, and in fact it has to be animated that way to convey the movement well in first-person.chun li's thighs said:
Are there any first-person games that extensively used both in-camera models (hands, torso) and included mirrors that allowed you see if the two sets of models matched up? I remember the opening of Prey starts looking in a mirror in a bathroom, and playing around with it (jumping, crouching, punching) the two views seem to more or less match.
PopcornMegaphone
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Awesome.
I didn't like a lot of things about Mirrors Edge, but if they fix the problems, it might be game of this gen. They were soclose with the first one.
I didn't like a lot of things about Mirrors Edge, but if they fix the problems, it might be game of this gen. They were soclose with the first one.
Blizzard said:I should look up a speedrun, then. Was this on hard, normal, or easy? How do you do that on Heat with the three guards and the pipes (I suspect if you're lucky you just nearly die while climbing)? How do you do it with the parking garage and the really slowly-turning valves next to the super-machine gun guard?
The first two actually aren't that hard.
(I should really come back to this with screencaps)
On Heat there are I think two parts where you have to deal with guards and a pipe that's half way up a wall. On the earlier part I figured out you could jump from the higher roof over the first guard, onto the air conditioners past the other two guards, and go off of those into a side wall run towards the vent, then wall run the vent, quick-turn, and leap to the pipe. If you do it at max momentum you'll take a few hits but you won't die.
The later part with guards and a high pipe is much harder but I think I did it once. I tried jumping from a blue walkway (where a guard sets up a position) platforming from air conditioner to air conditioner which got me to wall run just high enough on the pipes to avoid the guards. Took a lot of damage though. Speed run guys who practice it enough can probably do it.
If you're talking about the parking garage in the boat level, I actually totally avoided the guards my first time playing through the game. I just ran around them for a white truck, ran up the front of the truck and into a vent right behind the truck.
Don't know about that last one.
badcrumble
Member
Best way to tackle Mirror's Edge 2 level design is probably with mildly easier levels, but harder speedruns. Bigger emphasis on sequences you can get through entirely by using creative platforming + stealth kills would be nice too.
I honestly wouldn't mind seeing decent multiplayer either - whether it'd be racing or something similar to Uncharted 2's shooter-with-heavy-verticality-and-platforming (with the additional element of shedding guns to gain mobility), EA may see it as necessary to add to the game, and if done right I actually think it could be fun instead of feeling tacked on like many would fear.
I honestly wouldn't mind seeing decent multiplayer either - whether it'd be racing or something similar to Uncharted 2's shooter-with-heavy-verticality-and-platforming (with the additional element of shedding guns to gain mobility), EA may see it as necessary to add to the game, and if done right I actually think it could be fun instead of feeling tacked on like many would fear.
EA CEO: Mirror's Edge "Deserves To Come Back," Design At Crossroads
Very interesting read, especially the comments about pushing either the FPS or the free-running aspect of the game. I hope for #2.
Very interesting read, especially the comments about pushing either the FPS or the free-running aspect of the game. I hope for #2.
badcrumble
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More of a runner, absolutely, please. I agree that there were a few frustrating parts navigationally speaking, and that's just an issue of slightly improving the level design and the use of runner-vision.
His comments worry me because of the whole 'five million seller vs. one million seller' thing - makes me think that things are likely to lean toward the traditional FPS thing, and that in his conversations with the dev team, that's what he's been pulling for whereas the dev team has been pulling for making it more platforming-heavy.
polyh3dron
Banned
60fps on consoles plz
kthxbai
kthxbai
charlequin
Banned
crispyben said:
But you know in your heart it's #1.
Lostconfused
Member
Only if you are some kind of a lunatic.charlequin said:
Also Portal is a poor comparison. Speed running in portal involved some really clever thinking to find a shortcut to the end of the level. Mirror's Edge is about taking the quickest path through the level. Really the difference between the two games is that in Mirror's Edge you need to know a lot more shortcuts and tricks to beat the level.
Edit: Looking it at both games in simplified terms they are similar they are both about navigating through an environment. Its just the way you do it is extremely different and makes both games unique.
Lostconfused
Member
Thats just redundant. Time Attack is a Time Trial except you are just forced to restart a level if you cant get to a check point quickly enough.yurinka said:
badcrumble
Member
I think it's a perfectly fair comparison. There were plenty of parts in Mirror's Edge where it really felt like a Valve game to me - though much of it was in the darker underground sections that felt very HL1ish (and HL1 certainly had some platforming-heavy segments), the iPod-esque color scheme and the emphasis on traversal was strongly reminiscent of Portal to me even if the actual gameplay was wildly different. Also they used a few of the same sound effects, if I recall correctly.Lostconfused said: