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Early impressions from RPS for ME:A. It's... not good
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Lister
Banned
This is such a weird, juvenile attitude to have toward a stance/opinion or what have you.
12 year olds are usually taught, in school, or at least I was, about logical fallacies. I tend to look at the argument and weigh evidence provided. I don't go dismissing arguments because of something external to them.
Do the issues pointed out in the article, at least the ones supported with examples bother you 5 minutes before you heard he didn't like the witcher? Why do they not bother you now, suddenly?
Snkfanatic
Banned
You definitely didn't play Witcher 1.You spend the entire game trying to get access to places in a big city while being repeatedly shut out because you're not a person of high standing, not until the end.
You should do some reading, you're clearly out of touch.
Or...maybe...just maybe you are reading too much into other people's posts. Clearly everyone has an agenda.
This doesn't need its own thread... One negative preview from a dude that trashes RPG's constantly. Hyperbolic to the max, and im not even much of a ME fan and DA:I was a huge disappointment. Why can't this be in the Preview thread?
The game looks fine, bar the weird facial animations. This thread + the graphical downgrade thread its as if a sizable chunk of GAF wants this game to fail, what is going on? There is no constructive discussion, just people going "I knew this game would suck lol"
The game looks fine, bar the weird facial animations. This thread + the graphical downgrade thread its as if a sizable chunk of GAF wants this game to fail, what is going on? There is no constructive discussion, just people going "I knew this game would suck lol"
Ye I stopped reading here too.
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
That's not entirely true. Being a friend of a witch opens you many doors and many important people come asking for you on a regular basis.You definitely didn't play Witcher 1.
You can have sex with the Princess even, if you want to.
fabricated backlash
Member
GAF does a good enough job at that.
He's a paid monster hunter/killer. I figure that if there are monsters roaming your lands killing people/destroying crops etc. that as a leader of that nation/region then you would probably turn to Geralt to fix that. Not all that surprising that he gets in on political circles.
You are named after a regular Joe space trucker who lives in an interesting time and has to rise to the occasion in spite of being a normal dude. He even gets shit for thinking he's special when he's just well-situated and accidentally famous.
Or...maybe.... ... ...you need to do some reading because you're clearly out of touch... ... ...
JamesHolden
Banned
Everybody apparently knows the Pathfinder in this game, because it is a unique role within the colonisation mission. Clearly RPS is upset that this title creates respect an admiration from some people without it being earned. In the Witcher, your title as a Witcher gives people an instant negative impression of you based on world prejudice towards witcher's. That isn't earned as well, but is a stigma to overcome. A Pathfinder that resents the burden placed on them by a Father in charge is just Witcher flipped upside down.
I really enjoyed Inquisition so I'm okay with this. Just wish it wasn't coming out so close to Persona 5.
depths20XX
Member
Yikes, sounding like a real dookie bomb.
You read the other previews too?
Bizarre that ONE negative preview for some of ya'll means batten down the hatches lol
Yes, you and RPS dude are entitled to your
misguided
Seems like there are multiple sites with the whole opening of the game, plus i imagine multiple people who have directly played who may or may not gel with your opinions. Seems like I don't gel with that particular RPS writer's game tastes, would be like me reviewing a moba.
That being said watching those early game segments you can clearly see a lot of the weaknesses of the old ME games are still present. If you are still unsure how to feel about the game check out the videos that are out there or wait till tomorrow because you're going to get a 10 hour preview from ALOT of people.
That being said watching those early game segments you can clearly see a lot of the weaknesses of the old ME games are still present. If you are still unsure how to feel about the game check out the videos that are out there or wait till tomorrow because you're going to get a 10 hour preview from ALOT of people.
The Sum of Zero
Member
Same. They can call it a shit sandwich and I'll still be playing it day one.
Leatherface
Member
Damn it! Not like this.
JamesHolden
Banned
I care less about ones origin than their role in the story. Holden is a space trucker, but his central role in every major solar conflict turns him into "the one" just like most other Fantasy Sci-Fi protagonists. So people don't like the One unless it's a reluctant hero from a commoner past? That is just as much of a trope.
Admiral Woofington
Member
I'm by no means a Bioware fanboy, I'm fairly critical, but I'd be lying if I said I didn't enjoy every single one of their games enough for at least one playthrough. I'll still get it because I can't fathom they fuck up real bad. I thought dragon age inquisition was fine and don't hate it nearly as much as other people. I'll be fine.
JimJamJones
Member
I LOVED the original Mass Effect trilogy.
From what we've seen, there's something definitely off about this game, to me. I just can't put my finger on it.
From what we've seen, there's something definitely off about this game, to me. I just can't put my finger on it.
Fantastapotamus
Wrong about commas, wrong about everything
Sounds like Dragon Age Inquisition to me
DOWN
Banned
Why am I not surprised this one preview got its own thread?
Despite the guy clearly being considered of terrible opinion with much of GAF. He said playing Witcher 3 is like eating cardboard and one of GAF's top 10 GOTY winners INSIDE:
But okay, let's take his preview that sits contrary to the other previews as if it's normal and this guy is aligned with everyone's experiences gaming. Let's ignore that his negativity is his brand as he is straight up described on the site as their resident "grumbler."
Despite the guy clearly being considered of terrible opinion with much of GAF. He said playing Witcher 3 is like eating cardboard and one of GAF's top 10 GOTY winners INSIDE:
But okay, let's take his preview that sits contrary to the other previews as if it's normal and this guy is aligned with everyone's experiences gaming. Let's ignore that his negativity is his brand as he is straight up described on the site as their resident "grumbler."
I love Inquisition, so I would be okay with that.
thepenguin55
Member
I kind of feel like this game will be the DA2 of the ME series. Derided by most of the fanbase but very beloved by some. Having watched the first couple hours online nothing about it seemed offensively bad to me but it all just seemed kind of "meh" and cliche. "Bioware By The Numbers" seems like a good descriptor for what I saw. At bare minimum it was interesting enough for me to want to see more.
What I've seen of the game past the intro looked a lot better than the intro itself. Having said all of that, the fact that this game has a specific (almost Collector-like?) "big bad" is a bummer to me. I kind of just wanted the overarching story be "find a home" and not "find a home while fighting big bad".
What I've seen of the game past the intro looked a lot better than the intro itself. Having said all of that, the fact that this game has a specific (almost Collector-like?) "big bad" is a bummer to me. I kind of just wanted the overarching story be "find a home" and not "find a home while fighting big bad".
andythinkpad
Member
Bad writing and bad voice acting?
That's way more alarming than bad character design and bad combats.
That's way more alarming than bad character design and bad combats.
The problem is more basic than that, though. It's not just that Bioware NPCs fawn over your player (although they always do), it's that they often feel like they don't have any agency of their own. They have personality traits, beliefs, and desires, but the player is the one who either changes or drives them.
One of the many ways in which the writing in The Witcher 3 is solid is that NPCs -- even, say, your love interests -- seem like that have ideas and motivations of their own, and Geralt has a pretty limited ability to alter them. He can help, hinder, or ignore various tasks involving NPCs, but there are few, if any, situations in which you feel like another character is simply frozen in time waiting for the player to assign them meaning or purpose.
All that said, I still enjoy Bioware's games, by and large, and have preordered ME:A. I have a pretty high tolerance for awkward writing in character-driven RPGs, which I just generally adore.
texhnolyze
Banned
Speak for yourself. DA Inquisition was the #4 GOTY in Gaf. We loved it.
digoutyoursoul
Member
I need a drink
The fan in me is losing its mind
The fan in me is losing its mind
Hari Seldon
Member
I'm not sure if Bioware's writing has gotten worse, or if the rest of the industry has just massively surpassed them (indy RPGs, Horizons, Witcher, et. al), but man the last few games of theirs were like Hallmark Channel level writing. They are supposed to be the gold standard of writing, you historically put up with Bioware jank in order to get to the writing. Needless to say I'm highly skeptical about this game.
I've felt like I haven't had a real reason to care about this game if it's not doing something new. I'm a huge Mass Effect fan, but I'm not immediately pre-disposed to be excited about this because a massive draw of the trilogy is that I bonded with these characters and universe and want to see how it all plays out. For all the flak the third one got, it did wrap up the story and character threads, so I'm seeing this one as a simple cash in on the property. It needs to be very strong to get us all on board.
Fantastapotamus
Wrong about commas, wrong about everything
Different people have different opinions, more at 11
PanicFreak
Member
The Bombcast's impressions weren't great either. However, there was only one person in the room that had played it.
Metacritic prediction for this game.
Considering Fallout 4 was amazing fine by me.
Sounds like this guy is a classic contrarian looking to create clickbait. Not saying that's true, just that everyone, of course, wants to latch onto this preview instead of any of the positive ones.
Admiral Woofington
Member
I think the issue was that it was a relatively weak year and very close to the honeymoon period for many
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Deleted member 752119
Unconfirmed Member
He's entitled to his opinion.
The problem is the thread title says "early impressions" (plural) are not good when this is really the only really negative one so far and there are several positive ones. This really could have just been discussed in the existing previews/impressions thread IMO. I wish GAF had a report post feature as I have no idea which mods are best to PM etc with such concerns.
GoodCoffeeJoey
Banned
I was expecting Andomedida to be more similar to the Omega DLC for ME3 and these impressions seem to conform to that. Worse writing and characters, but better gameplay and better and more imaginative encounter design.
texhnolyze
Banned
I still love it dearly. Just replayed it last year in November.
And if that's the case, FFXV should've ranked higher.
As has been pointed out repeatedly, I think a lot of the issue is that people with a relatively positive impression of DA:I (like me) assumed that the MMO-style questing was a necessary consequence of having a big open world. I was personally fine with that tradeoff -- I like big worlds, which improve my sense of immersion even when they largely suck -- although I didn't particularly enjoy my time collecting pelts and such. Then TW3 proved that it wasn't, making the game seem retroactively crappy.