Triggerhappytel
Member
Are you kidding or do you really think this? Did you post in the OT at all? I would be interested in reading your opinions on the game in more detail.
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Edge #293 - Mirror's Edge
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Are you kidding or do you really think this? Did you post in the OT at all? I would be interested in reading your opinions on the game in more detail.
Turin Turambar
Member
It's a very Edge type of game. If you have been following their scores for years, you will notice how they under score some subgenres and over score others (I mean, in comparison to other sites and public reception).
Of course it's normal for anyone to have their specific preferences, but it's strange, because in Edge it seems all the writers have very homogeneous tastes.
I'm really enjoying R&C as well. But keep in mind that it's a remake of the first game--it's largely recycling content that does nothing new for the series.
Boy Wander
Member
My copy has arrived. If anyone wants any detail on reviews, let me know.
off to a good start
Triggerhappytel
Member
If you don't mind, I'd like a little detail on the Salt and Sanctuary review - specifically, did they dislike anything about it, and why is it 'only' a six? I think it excels in most regards so I'm curious what their issues were.
Boy Wander
Member
Their main complaint is that it is tantamount to a 2d cover of souls and that it suffers in comparison through having too few original ideas of its own. They also criticise the art style and that the visual design is undersized, making playing from a distance troublesome.
Zeouterlimits
Member
Includes post script?
Is that a post review discussion?
Is that a post review discussion?
Boy Wander
Member
Yes or an interview with a staffer to get more background on certain design decisions (visual or gameplay)
Spring-Loaded
Member
Star Fox better than Ratchet and Clank
while dodging bullets and leapin from roof to roof"
"you should smile more
while dodging bullets and leapin from roof to roof"
First post wins.
Shambalakan
Member
Previous R&C scores from Edge:
Going Commando (90): 70. it had only 2 yellow scores and one of them was from Edge.
Up Your Arsenal (91): 80
Size Matters (85): 70. lowest score of the game.
Deadlocked (81): 70
Tools of Destruction (89): 80
Quest for Booty (76): 80. Wow!
A Crack in Time (87): 70. lowest score of the game.
Into the Nexus (76): 50. lowest score of the game.
All 4 One (70): 60
R&C PS4 (86): 60. lowest score of the game.
It seems that they really love R&C series!
Going Commando (90): 70. it had only 2 yellow scores and one of them was from Edge.
Up Your Arsenal (91): 80
Size Matters (85): 70. lowest score of the game.
Deadlocked (81): 70
Tools of Destruction (89): 80
Quest for Booty (76): 80. Wow!
A Crack in Time (87): 70. lowest score of the game.
Into the Nexus (76): 50. lowest score of the game.
All 4 One (70): 60
R&C PS4 (86): 60. lowest score of the game.
It seems that they really love R&C series!
IceDoesntHelp
Banned
I haven't played S&S, but I feel the 6 is partially to do with its awful artstyle. Incredibly ugly game.
forgeforsaken
Member
I thought S&S was far better than Hyper Light Drifter. Weird scores all around this month.
Hyper Light Drifter is one of my favorite games ever and I thought S&S was junk. Opinions. Shrug.
Been a while since the last Edge score outrage!
My co-worker, who happens to be a big R&C fan, didn't sound overly enthused about the remake, and complained about how short it was and being a little too familiar. He did like it, but that's not the most encouraging thing to hear from a guy who did stick his neck out for the likes of Full Frontal Assault.
My co-worker, who happens to be a big R&C fan, didn't sound overly enthused about the remake, and complained about how short it was and being a little too familiar. He did like it, but that's not the most encouraging thing to hear from a guy who did stick his neck out for the likes of Full Frontal Assault.
Triggerhappytel
Member
Thanks. I'll try to pick this issue up myself if I can find it in a supermarket.
And PS4K coverage in this issue?
European made driving games get the easiest time at Edge. Ridge Racer Unbounded, GRID and GRID 2 all got 9's.
European made driving games get the easiest time at Edge. Ridge Racer Unbounded, GRID and GRID 2 all got 9's.
scoobs
Member
Perhaps i could have made my point better, but what I was trying to say is: based on the quality of the game (backed up by reviews and user reviews for the game), for the price, this just ISN'T a "D" product. A 7/10 is fair IMO. To me that means its at best an average game. To me, 6/10 implies there is something inherently bad about this game, so I'd like to read the review to see what moved this down to 6/10. Its a really harsh position to take on a universally praised game. My only guess is the reviewer must REALLY hate Ratchet and Clank games.
I honestly think a 6/10 for this game is ridiculous. I understand reviews are subjective, but its just an insane score to give a game of this quality.
Edge doesn't always have the best reviews. Lol @ people explaining what a 6 means. People general knows what it means and most will probably disagree with their score, which there's absolutely nothing wrong with. Not sure how the best Ratchet and Clank game in the series received a 7 btw with strong 60 FPS gameplay and brilliant clank puzzles..
Triggerhappytel
Member
It sounds like your expectation of the 1-10 scale is fucked, whereas Edge is one of the few publications to use an actual 1-10 scale with 5 as the flat average.
Visualante2
Member
Not from the looks of things. It's not usually a speculative sort of magazine.
It's really mediocre at best. Terrible gameplay and the first thing you see is a micro transaction.
Yeah, I was more surprised to see A Crack in Time got 7 then I was the remake score. The remake is good but it's really just more Ratchet, and it's worse then a lot of the others in some ways. ACIT is the GOAT though.
I totally agree with their S&S score btw, I thought it was only alright.
vetrox
Member
Since they gave Star Fox Zero a seven, how comfortable were they with the controls?
A 6 is a C.
KillerDark
Member
Agreed completely, very fun game.
enjoying ratchet a lot as a series fa, it's friendly comfort food, but that score seems fair. honestly i'm a bit baffled by the glowing reviews in this day and age where critics are much harsher - it's the kind of game that just does everything competently except for the visuals (which are great) and in a franchise with tons of entries and little variety.
lol
lol
Corleth the Fey
Member
Does the Mirror's Edge Catalyst article mention anywhere that 5 out of 10 they gave the original Mirror's Edge?
Messofanego
Banned
As always, people getting outraged at EDGE review scores without reading the reviews. As mentioned, they use the whole scale, and usually reserve 8s or 9s to the best games of the year.
Here were their criticisms for Ratchet & Clank that justify it being just solid (a 6 doesn't mean they tear it apart like that number means for other outlets):
"Disregarding spinoffs, this is the tenth Ratchet & Clank game, and anyone possessing even a passing familiarity with the series will have a good idea of what to expect. For its part, Insomniac has no intention of failing to meet those expectations - and seemingly, little desire to surpass or subvert them."
"Occasionally, you'll play as Clank, solving marginally more complex conundrums that tend to involve more busywork than mental exertion."
"It may never quite set your pulse spiking, but rarely will you find yourself letting out an irritated huff."
"And though the script is full of characters you occasionally wish would stop talking, there's something endearing about its ceaseless attempts to make you smile. Once or twice, it might even succeed. Hardly an enviable hit rate, but it's more than many games manage."
"If technology's inexorable march suggests Ratchet & Clank may be among the last of its kind, there are plenty who would respond with a disinterested shrug. This, in truth, will do little to sway that opinion. Nonetheless, it's solid, three-star entertainment: as pretty as it is inconsequential, as likely to be thoroughly enjoyed for the dozen hours it lasts as it is to be forgotten within weeks. It's not taxing or provocative, it will leave you neither upset nor elated; it simply wants to give you a good time. Sometimes that's enough."
On the new weapons:
"There are fresh additions, too. The Proton Drum fires out throbbing pink shockwaves that zap anything caught within their radius, while the Pixeliser is an instant classic: a shotgun that turns enemies into blocky sprites, eventually causing them to fragment into voxels."
Here were their criticisms for Ratchet & Clank that justify it being just solid (a 6 doesn't mean they tear it apart like that number means for other outlets):
"Disregarding spinoffs, this is the tenth Ratchet & Clank game, and anyone possessing even a passing familiarity with the series will have a good idea of what to expect. For its part, Insomniac has no intention of failing to meet those expectations - and seemingly, little desire to surpass or subvert them."
"Occasionally, you'll play as Clank, solving marginally more complex conundrums that tend to involve more busywork than mental exertion."
"It may never quite set your pulse spiking, but rarely will you find yourself letting out an irritated huff."
"And though the script is full of characters you occasionally wish would stop talking, there's something endearing about its ceaseless attempts to make you smile. Once or twice, it might even succeed. Hardly an enviable hit rate, but it's more than many games manage."
"If technology's inexorable march suggests Ratchet & Clank may be among the last of its kind, there are plenty who would respond with a disinterested shrug. This, in truth, will do little to sway that opinion. Nonetheless, it's solid, three-star entertainment: as pretty as it is inconsequential, as likely to be thoroughly enjoyed for the dozen hours it lasts as it is to be forgotten within weeks. It's not taxing or provocative, it will leave you neither upset nor elated; it simply wants to give you a good time. Sometimes that's enough."
On the new weapons:
"There are fresh additions, too. The Proton Drum fires out throbbing pink shockwaves that zap anything caught within their radius, while the Pixeliser is an instant classic: a shotgun that turns enemies into blocky sprites, eventually causing them to fragment into voxels."
Is this a parody post? As long as you enjoy the game why do you care. It's a fucking arbitrary number lol.
ClayKavalier
Banned
Previous R&C scores from Edge:
Going Commando (90): 70. it had only 2 yellow scores and one of them was from Edge.
Up Your Arsenal (91): 80
Size Matters (85): 70. lowest score of the game.
Deadlocked (81): 70
Tools of Destruction (89): 80
Quest for Booty (76): 80. Wow!
A Crack in Time (87): 70. lowest score of the game.
Into the Nexus (76): 50. lowest score of the game.
All 4 One (70): 60
R&C PS4 (86): 60. lowest score of the game.
It seems that they really love R&C series!
No you fool! They hate the game! 6 means they think it's dog shit and they gave it that score just to be contrarian!
That's not a correct interpretation of the score. An Edge 5 is average, a C is average. So a 6 is more like a C+ than a D.
Also not sure why you'd think they REALLY hate R&C games, you can love them but still acknowledge that the PS4 game doesn't add much to the franchise. It's a really well made R&C, nothing more, nothing less. If a given reviewer really values the idea of new games in a series expanding on past concepts than a 6 is a reasonable score.
I think that Crackdown did that to me the worst. Those towers... Felt physically ill.
No.
Messofanego
Banned
Totally agreed with their Hyper Light Drifter review, that's going down as one of my favourite games of the year. From satisfying gamefeel and subtle world building to an ambiguous dark fantasy narrative and very methodical combat scenarios that don't allow you to goof around with invincibility frames. It's like a Zelda game I never knew I wanted.
With this and the recent Toren, I'm all about bleak fantasy in videogames.
With this and the recent Toren, I'm all about bleak fantasy in videogames.
They give 8s and 9s to all sorts of crap.
Icyflamez96
Member
I'm surprised it took this long to get a mixed review tbh. I don't disagree with any of those criticisms.
I personally still give it a 8-8.5 because the core gameplay is still so damn good regardless of everything else though.
I personally still give it a 8-8.5 because the core gameplay is still so damn good regardless of everything else though.
Messofanego
Banned
ClayKavalier
Banned
Yeah, that's what a review of R&C is going to boil down too. I don't see how anyone could argue that it's not very well made and that the core mechanics aren't great. If you're a fan of the series though the new game doesn't have a single surprise, or bring anything new to the table aside from a new weapon or two. Do you rate it highly since it's still technically a great game, or do you give it an above-average score since it doesn't bring anything new to the table?
scoobs
Member
In what country?