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Eon Productions allegedly mooting a James Bond Cinematic Universe
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Finally, a Spider-Verse style team-up of all the different Bonds
RIP Roger Moore
can't wait for Gwen Bond
jack_package_200
Banned
We're finally getting that Jinx spin-off they planned out a few years back, aren't we?
Remember Jinx? She was a character with lines, possibly.
Rosamund Pike was a more interesting character in Die Another Day tbh
Bobby Roberts
Banned
We were just talking about this in the Box-Office thread!
1) They've tried this before as mentioned, with the Jinx spinoff. Die Another Day's reception (It made money but was laughed at until the series basically died) prevented it from going forward (I think Halle Berry went ahead and made Catwoman instead?)
2) The fact EON is thinking about it doesn't really mean anything - they'd still have to convince a studio that it's a good idea to pursue. And so far as I can tell, of the three studios that really, really want it (Sony, WB, and surprisingly, A24) two of them are already neck deep in Cinematic Universes that they're already having big problems managing well, and the third probably doesn't really want one.
It's entirely possible that EON pushing for a Cinematic Universe might hurt their value to a studio, not build it up. Who the fuck would want to take all THAT on if they didn't have to? Typically just making one Bond movie every two years is a herculean mess of clusterfucks. Making one a year with characters who don't have the cachet Bond does?
3) Jeff Sneider, who is apparently the primary source on this, is couching his report in all sorts of weasel-words, which tells me he's less interested in getting this right and more interested in covering his ass for the pending debunk that will probably be coming, because he's floated shit like this before (most notably, that Miles will be the MCU Spider-Man, I believe) and gotten burnt.
Could they be thinking about it? Maybe? They thought about putting James Brolin in the role in the 80s. They've thought about a lot of things over time. You stick around for 50+ years some interesting notions get entertained. And it's not like EON hasn't been all about trendchasing ever since the Moore days. This is a damn big trend.
But I dunno if this is going to actually be a thing.
(Although if they do pursue it, I think this ends up making codename theory being implemented into this continuity almost a certainty)
1) They've tried this before as mentioned, with the Jinx spinoff. Die Another Day's reception (It made money but was laughed at until the series basically died) prevented it from going forward (I think Halle Berry went ahead and made Catwoman instead?)
2) The fact EON is thinking about it doesn't really mean anything - they'd still have to convince a studio that it's a good idea to pursue. And so far as I can tell, of the three studios that really, really want it (Sony, WB, and surprisingly, A24) two of them are already neck deep in Cinematic Universes that they're already having big problems managing well, and the third probably doesn't really want one.
It's entirely possible that EON pushing for a Cinematic Universe might hurt their value to a studio, not build it up. Who the fuck would want to take all THAT on if they didn't have to? Typically just making one Bond movie every two years is a herculean mess of clusterfucks. Making one a year with characters who don't have the cachet Bond does?
3) Jeff Sneider, who is apparently the primary source on this, is couching his report in all sorts of weasel-words, which tells me he's less interested in getting this right and more interested in covering his ass for the pending debunk that will probably be coming, because he's floated shit like this before (most notably, that Miles will be the MCU Spider-Man, I believe) and gotten burnt.
Could they be thinking about it? Maybe? They thought about putting James Brolin in the role in the 80s. They've thought about a lot of things over time. You stick around for 50+ years some interesting notions get entertained. And it's not like EON hasn't been all about trendchasing ever since the Moore days. This is a damn big trend.
But I dunno if this is going to actually be a thing.
(Although if they do pursue it, I think this ends up making codename theory being implemented into this continuity almost a certainty)
Beren the Empty-Handed
Member
It's an Avengers/MCU reference. The joke being that if they tried that, it would be just like every other Bond film, as you've pointed out.
And now the joke is thoroughly dead.
CocaMantis
Member
I'm generally on board with cinematic universes because I found them to be potentially good and could enrich every or (like the MCU) some movies. But a Bond Universe? That's all sorts of weird.
jack_package_200
Banned
I would lose my fucking shit if Bond went to A24
I hope it happens. That would be rad.
Zippedpinhead
Member
Simple solution to establish universe:
Nicolas Cage cameo shows up as a random FBI agent along with Felix Liter and introduces himself as Stanley. He will do anything for money so this is likely more a legal discussion between Disney and Eon productions than anything else.
Joe Don Baker comes back as Jack Wade and references himself having been previously being an arms dealer.
Instant universe.
Nicolas Cage cameo shows up as a random FBI agent along with Felix Liter and introduces himself as Stanley. He will do anything for money so this is likely more a legal discussion between Disney and Eon productions than anything else.
Joe Don Baker comes back as Jack Wade and references himself having been previously being an arms dealer.
Instant universe.
Sgt. Kabukiman
Banned
I wonder if Catwoman ended up saving us from that. It was all for the greater good.
The greater good.
Empyrean Heaven
Member
You know what happens when people start getting fancy with James Bond?
We get shit like Goldeneye: Rogue Agent.
Don't do this, EON.
We get shit like Goldeneye: Rogue Agent.
Don't do this, EON.
Fox Mulder
Member
Lol.
Just making a Bond film every 3 years is a giant shitshow, now they want a universe.
Just making a Bond film every 3 years is a giant shitshow, now they want a universe.
In no universe where Halle Berry's Catwoman was made as opposed to something else were any of us saved.
torre_avenue
Banned
If done right, this could be really cool.
I'd love to see directors try their hand at more experimental Bond-esque films with different 00s. Plus then, it'd allow all sorts of actors to play different 00 roles and even let established directors have their own unique takes on the 00 system.
But, that's probably not what EON wants.
I'd love to see directors try their hand at more experimental Bond-esque films with different 00s. Plus then, it'd allow all sorts of actors to play different 00 roles and even let established directors have their own unique takes on the 00 system.
But, that's probably not what EON wants.
They currently are releasing one movie every 3-4 years, and only about 33% of the time do they get that one right.
Moving into a cinematic universe with multiple ongoing films would be a disaster. Not to mention that the Bond universe, as much as I love it, isn't exactly ripe with opportunities for expansion.
Moving into a cinematic universe with multiple ongoing films would be a disaster. Not to mention that the Bond universe, as much as I love it, isn't exactly ripe with opportunities for expansion.
elrechazado
Banned
Mooting?
IdreamofHIME
Member
Live action James Bond Jr please
Sgt. Kabukiman
Banned
Accept your salvation SpaceWolf.
Click to reveal this spoiler, knowing full well what it is, and welcome it within your heart:
Exterminieren
Banned
Hang on, what? They've never put out a movie a tenth of the size of a Bond movie!
GoldenEye 007
Member
We're finally getting that Jinx spin-off they planned out a few years back, aren't we?
Remember Jinx? She was a character with lines, possibly.
Die Another Day was just the worst..... Ugh.
Accept your salvation SpaceWolf.
Click to reveal this spoiler, knowing full well what it is, and welcome it within your heart:
I literally wrote a thread about that damn scene, and as a result, I've execersied its sickly impurities from my soul.
I am no longer scandalous.
No.
Bond, Jinx, Moneypenny, M, Q R and all the letters of the alphabet each starring in their own movies.
aussiedude08
Member
It couldnt be any worse than Universals monster/dark universe.
Fancyarcher
Member
Actually this doesn't sound bad, especially with the concept of an M spinoff, but good lord does this make EON sound desperate, seriously stop trying to jump on trends, quality-wise it usually doesn't end good.
Triggerhappytel
Member
I hope they do an origin story for Blofeld & Bond, showing the former's jealousy over the latter's relationship with his father when they were in their teens!
Not sure if either of those statements are really fair given the depths this franchise has sunk to, even as recently as Quantum of Solace. Also, these movies have a fuckload of work put into them, especially with their emphasis on practical effects...so I don't really think it's about not having enough "care" poured into them, either.
The Elite
BOSS
I watched Die Another Day again recently and found myself enjoying it. The problems it has are glaring but I though Gustav Graves was one of the better Bond villains in recent memory. I also love the action scene in the film. The opening, sword fight and plane scenes are all quality work.
That being said, I didn't find myself liking Jinx at all. For a top level NSA agent she made a lot of bad judgement calls. I think they struggled with having her in the typical Bond girl role while trying to make her a "tough woman" and failed. I'm glad she didn't get that spin off.
That being said, I didn't find myself liking Jinx at all. For a top level NSA agent she made a lot of bad judgement calls. I think they struggled with having her in the typical Bond girl role while trying to make her a "tough woman" and failed. I'm glad she didn't get that spin off.
Davey Cakes
Member
James Bond could use a break. Give it until 2020 and cast someone different.
Also, no need for a cinematic universe. I thought some of the appeal of the James Bond films was that you can watch each one individually, with any connections to other movies being superficial.
Also, no need for a cinematic universe. I thought some of the appeal of the James Bond films was that you can watch each one individually, with any connections to other movies being superficial.
VeryGooster
Banned
It can't be worse than the "Author of all your pain" ass pull in Spectre, can it?
Feels like Bond is always on a break between movies, at least in Craig's era. Granted the WGA strike, MGM finance issues, and that Sony e-mail hack probably didn't help matters.
Feels like Bond is always on a break between movies, at least in Craig's era. Granted the WGA strike, MGM finance issues, and that Sony e-mail hack probably didn't help matters.
Peter Ian Staker
Member
To be fair they got fucked over by the legal battle over the rights to Thunderball.
Long story but until 3 years ago EON couldn't use any story elements from the book Thunderball including SPECTRE and Blofeld so they couldn't continue the conspiracy storyline from Casino Royale like the books and start slowly revealing SPECTRE.
They had to come up with new elements like the Quantum organization but when they finally got the rights to Thunderball back they decided to pull a "It was SPECTRE-Blofeld behind everything" (Also Blofeld is Bond's stepbrother and he did all of this because he hates him which was the worst ass-pull ever)
NealMcCauley
Member
Blofeld hates Bond because one night Bond wouldn't stop crying and Blofeld just wanted to sleep. He's been vengeful ever since.
SuperEpicMan
Banned
Ugh thats the opposite direction to where they should be heading. I have said it a couple of times before, but I feel with Bond they should really allow themselves to be flexible with the continuity and to allow for more creative changes between films. Basically if I were in charge, I would reboot as more of an anthology series, where different directors and actors can have the freedom to either follow the story naturally film to film, or to bring a completely new actor, setting, plot etc, each time.
Hmmm, Chris Nolan wants to make 2 parter, cold war era, grounded Bond movie. Sure why not.
007: *blank* Vol 1
007: *blank* Vol 2
Edgar Write wants to make a more campy, whimsical gadget laden Bond movie, and a female Bond, sure.
007: *blank*
David Cronenberg randomly calls up and wants to make some insane psychological, deconstructed Bond film, with half the budget. Hell yeah.
007: *blank*
Hmmm, Chris Nolan wants to make 2 parter, cold war era, grounded Bond movie. Sure why not.
007: *blank* Vol 1
007: *blank* Vol 2
Edgar Write wants to make a more campy, whimsical gadget laden Bond movie, and a female Bond, sure.
007: *blank*
David Cronenberg randomly calls up and wants to make some insane psychological, deconstructed Bond film, with half the budget. Hell yeah.
007: *blank*
AuthenticM
Member
NO
Angelus Errare
Banned
003: Idris Elba
Sweeney Tom
Banned
Marvel's thing being ridiculously successful was the worst thing to happen to the industry in the past decade
EVERYBODY wants in on that cash
EVERYBODY wants in on that cash
