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[Eurogamer\DF] Orbis Unmasked: what to expect from the next-gen PlayStation.
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BruceLeeRoy
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Haha I have no idea how to interpret this. Are you saying that the Durango is using a flux capacitor.
Damn this is fun times. This E3 is going to be madness
what nintendo franchise are you expecting to look like gears of war, out of curiosity
JordanN
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Interesting. Just one more thing. Do you think the above will hold true in 20 years from now and do you think there will be any developers (who are not NaughtyDog,Epic,343) who can surpass those games?
Can Crusher
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I think that if Nintendo really commit to it, Zelda will look very special when compared.
Chuck Norris
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Question: Orbis's 512mb for OS. is that referring to the background features while ingame, or is it referring to wha the OS can use as a whole? IIRC the Vita OS uses a reduced version of its main OS with less RAM while ingame, so I imagine Sony would use a similar system here
GarthVaderUK
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As much as I want to read that article, you guys are making the right choice.
michaelius
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gaming_noob
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IMO God of War III already looks better than that Zelda WiiU tech demo. It's going to be a tough road ahead for Nintendo.
Iacobellis
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Why would it be? Most mid-range computers ship with 8GB nowadays.
Indeed.
Iacobellis
Junior Member
I think Sony learned their lesson with the PS3. The Vita wipes that on the floor in terms of usability in-game. And that is with a measly 512MB of RAM.
Uno Venova
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He didn't say look like.
Console ram is different.
Terbinator
Member
Because that's what makes it "fun" for us at least.
MS and Sony trying to outfox each other with this and that - a bit like F1 teams IMO.
shinobi602
Member
Kind of off topic, but do we know the Wii U's specs in depth yet? Do we even know if it has DDR3 ram, what type of GPU exactly, etc?
probably will reserve 1.5 and try to use 1. after a bit if it works out for them they will make the 1gb permanent and allow games the rest
3gb just doesn't seem right. ...
THE:MILKMAN
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I read at B3D that it uses a flops capacitor to make up the GPU deficit.
thehypocrite
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Software huh, nice hint.
But that was officially announced recently. I also remember that your source was excited about partnerships and maybe this is one of those. Just because it was confirmed to you after doesn't mean that the information was up to date. I admit that I know nothing about home automation system, but it does look like something that needs to be on at all times and with completely dedicated resources.
gundamkyoukai
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Can't say that any more with MS and Nintendo using DDR3 it's almost the same .
Can Crusher
Banned
Ain't that the money question?
they need to say <rumors> often if they write it so they wont get burned after a while if something changes.
well he said it wouldn't look better - which somehow implies that they're in some way measurable in a competitive aspect at all. how does one compare gears of war to anything nintendo does, i just don't know. they're completely different beasts chasing different results.
2GB DDR3 (with 1 being currently occupied by OS), GPU no idea. people assume it's comparable to a 4870 i believe.
The RAM type for Wii U was specified? Did not know.
Iacobellis
Junior Member
It's slow and the OS is not helping either. I hate to be a dick but I cannot see why Nintendo wanted a head start. They aren't in direct competition with Sony or Microsoft, it doesn't make much sense.
BruceLeeRoy
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I think if the Wii U was comparable to Orbis and Durango that Retro and Nintendo EAD could put out software that would be at the very height of graphical capability and excellence.
If your jaw drops and your eyes glitter with glee than they accomplished their job. I was super excited about the Zelda Tech demo but I never thought it looked better than what the current systems were outputting.
WiiU uses ~13GB/sec [like ordinary PC basically], but Durango will have either 34 or 68 GB/s [128/256bit bandwidth]. Such fast bandwidth cannot be found on PC.
2GB DDR3-1600 12.8GB/s, 156mm^2 GPU die (includes eDRAM on die, likely on 40nm). We also know that when playing games the Wii U consumes about 33W of power.
IrishNinja
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yeah...i was thinking sony'd be making compromises somewhere (3D? move? etc) but hopefully not, because none of that up there sounds essential to a gamebox, for me. likewise with the WU, i don't get the amount set for the OS from a company that used to prioritize the system just playing games
Neither console is a PC. They're not using dedicated CPUs or GPUs. Ignoring that they're both using APUs, their processing and graphics elements would already have certain customizations made specifically for gaming, rather than the broader brute force approach a desktop, and even a laptop would take. Custom hardware is about eliminating stuff that isn't efficient for games to make room for things that could be, or to lower cost.
Long story short: custom hardware is present to make a better GPU. They're not picking parts off a shelf.
GarthVaderUK
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I sincerely doubt the forum will be usable during the E3 conferences, hah.
shinobi602
Member
Damn...I like my Wii U, but I just feel bad for the thing when I look at the different specs for all 3.
Ah well.
Karak
Member
Or for some strange reason they are running a ramdisk...or something hahahaha.
No one needs a source for this prediction sir. 100% right.
Proelite
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Because they want to have the system capable of better graphics than an tweaked off the shelf GPU.
BruceLeeRoy
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If I can dump my trash into the lid to power that bastard up I am all over it.
JordanN
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So are you saying only Orbis and Durango can surpass the best of PS3/360?
(Your post didn't leave much headroom so I'm interpreting what I'm seeing)
Right, I understand that. It's just, I can't see any amount of supplementary hardware going to make a 1.2 tf GPU punch 2+ tf or whatever some of the more outrageous claims are.
thehypocrite
Member
Never!!! We will be here nit-picking them to death, while Evilore laughs on the corner and bishoptl gets it's hands full of sacrificial blood from juniors and members alike that crack under the pressure.
It will be glorious.
Karak
Member
Those are outrageous. But custom stuff can easily eat up a% of the already very basic measurement of Tflops. Eat up enough to cover the distance?
Depends.
shinra-bansho
Member
I'm not sure where your line of questioning is supposed to arrive.
Are Orbis and Durango surpassing the best of the PS360 supposed to imply the Wii U can? Because that doesn't follow.
We would but the GAF site will literally die from all of the arguing and console wars.
what about the eurogamer orbis secret sauce in addition to the known specs?
insignificant difference?