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[Neoxon]

They bust out gamecubes and CRT's for Melee, why would you think they'd have trouble getting WiiU's?

To be fair, the Wii U was a mega-bomba compared to the GameCube. I'm not surprised that Nintendo's trying to save Smash 4 from the sinking ship known as the Wii U.

That said, I wouldn't be surprised if The Pokémon Company pushes for an NX port of Pokkén Tournament to keep the game alive for longer.

 

[Immortal Technique]

Came to ask this as well.

It kind of rubs me the wrong way for a self-proclaimed community tournament with strong international focus to make it pretty much impossible for European fans to watch the finals with their favorite commentators due to a deal with an American broadcaster. Nothing against James Chen but nobody beats Mike "Bot beater" Ross and Seth "food poisoning" Killian for me and I missed their voices.
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If not for the broadcast partner, Mike Ross wouldn't have been doing top 8 anyway, so, you weren't getting him either way. Mike never does EVO top 8, or any top 8s really, but in this case was clearly chosen as a strong charismatic personality that would play well on TV.

 

[KingBroly]

The one extra problem is that Pokken needs to be online.

No...it has local across LAN

 

[mnz]

No...it has local across LAN

My bad then, I heard about online problems at EVO with the game. Must've been something else.

 

[Ardenyal]

No...it has local across LAN

So you need 2x stations to play one game? Eh, seems like a lot of hassle if that's the case.

 

[Master Thespian]

It already has one based on this year's schedule, though.

Namco moneyhats will get it a Sunday spot next year.

 

[Nightii]

So you need 2x stations to play one game? Eh, seems like a lot of hassle if that's the case.

There is one console multiplayer, but do to the way the game handles camera angles it ends up suboptimal, as it cuts the framerate in half, and forces one player to play amd watch with the gamepad.

I can only hope that a sequel that has consoles in mind removes this issue.

Namco moneyhats will get it a Sunday spot next year.

So Pokken can take the friday spot then, I see no issue.

 

[Blackquill]

So what is the general opinion about Street Fighter final on ESPN from non-initied people ? Heard they were some "salt" but also some positives things

 

[Revven]

My bad then, I heard about online problems at EVO with the game. Must've been something else.

It was just the usual problems the game has with LAN. Sometimes it takes longer than usual to connect to the other player and other times the Wii U gives an error when searching. But both can be fixed in like a minute.

There was apparently one instance where several people spent 15 minutes trying to fix a setup that was constantly having errors for pools but the streams for Pokken never had this issue (other than the intermittent ones I talked about above, which didn't affect the game's time much at all).

Pokken is generally a good game to spectate but it didn't have a good top 8 because of the characters in it. Had there been a Shadow Mewtwo or Sceptile in it, its Top 8 would have immediately been better than what we got. Garchomp was cool but he got knocked out too early in the top 8 to be memorable and of course the top 3 matches were blech.

It was cool to see a character who hasn't won anything actually win something but, unfortunately, it happened to be a character that isn't really hype either. :/

 

[Lulubop]

They're going to have to make cuts, even if they expand to 4 days.

Marvel probably had the worst Top 8 of the weekend. A lot of 3-0's, including the GF reset match. That's really how cemented the game is right now. It's one touch = death, and there's very little chances for a comeback in that game right now. It makes for an uninteresting product.

KI is 100% down to whether or not Microsoft pays to keep it going. It does look like player numbers increased, BUT not enough to where I could say it could expand next year.

Guilty Gear...I dunno. I really don't. I simply look at it and think 'expendable' right now. MAYBE you keep it if they go to 4 days and you need 5-games for Saturday and Sunday, but I would not keep on Sunday if they do.

They're not going 4 days, it's just not happening. I will bet money GG will be at evo 2017 and Pokken will not.

 

[Nightii]

Nonsense, Braixen managing to space and control the match vs Suicune like it was easy was hype.

 

[mbpm1]

So what is the general opinion about Street Fighter final on ESPN from non-initied people ? Heard they were some "salt" but also some positives things

It seemed like was 10% salt from non-initiated

35% salt from fgc people getting mad at nonexistent numbers of people getting salty about it

the rest neutral to positive

that said, grain of salt as to how true it is

 

[Salex_]

KOF's gonna replace Marvel or KI or GG. Pokken's probably not going anywhere.

They're going to have to make cuts, even if they expand to 4 days.

Marvel probably had the worst Top 8 of the weekend. A lot of 3-0's, including the GF reset match. That's really how cemented the game is right now. It's one touch = death, and there's very little chances for a comeback in that game right now. It makes for an uninteresting product.

KI is 100% down to whether or not Microsoft pays to keep it going. It does look like player numbers increased, BUT not enough to where I could say it could expand next year.

Guilty Gear...I dunno. I really don't. I simply look at it and think 'expendable' right now. MAYBE you keep it if they go to 4 days and you need 5-games for Saturday and Sunday, but I would not keep on Sunday if they do.

1 touch does not mean death in marvel (there's too many variables) and the comeback potentially is incredibly high. Sounds like you have some kind of bias against the game.

GG or BB will definitely be back as a Sunday game. The finals are always entertaining and people are always hyped for it. Both viewership and tournament numbers for GG were great. I don't know why you're so sure about Pokken returning.

 

[firelogic]

Anyone have a link to ESPN top 8 archive? Wanna hear Mike and Seth's commentary.

I would have expected clips to go up on youtube by now but haven't found any. There's a replay vod available on ESPN but you need a cable subscription.

 

[Seyavesh]

http://evo2016.s3.amazonaws.com/brackets/pok_a405.html

 

[CountBlack]

Add Pokken to Evo brehs

 

[Blackquill]

It seemed like was 10% salt from non-initiated

35% salt from fgc people getting mad at nonexistent numbers of people getting salty about it

the rest neutral to positive

that said, grain of salt as to how true it is

Great to hear that !

 

[depths20XX]

Pokken was a one time game just like TvC was. It ain't coming back.

 

[Lulubop]

Chun mirror aside, SFV finals were fantastic. Even the Nash mirrors were nail bitters. That said, of course I would have preferred more character variety.

 

[sixteen-bit]

HBox's puff fanart
http://stupjam.tumblr.com/post/147578597683/yay-for-evo-2016-hungrybox-jigglypuff-is-my

 

[vg260]

Chun mirror aside, SFV finals were fantastic. Even the Nash mirrors were nail bitters. That said, of course I would have preferred more character variety.

Yeah, I kinda wanted to see Ryu in there just because he would have been more recognizable people flipping channels.

 

[BadWolf]

Yeah, I kinda wanted to see Ryu in there just because he would have been more recognizable people flipping channels.

Tokido not making top 8 was a major bummer.

 

[RecRoulette]

Pokken was a one time game just like TvC was. It ain't coming back.

Yeah, especially considering next year is going to be absolutely loaded. Thrilled that Pokken got the opportunity though. Some of the matches I saw were fantastic.

 

[SargerusBR]

Add Pokken to Evo brehs

I'm sure it will get a spot in EVO Japan.

 

[Sinatar]

Top 8 would have been better if we'd swapped out a chun for Haitani and a Nash for Tokido.

 

[NEO0MJ]

Yeah, especially considering next year is going to be absolutely loaded. Thrilled that Pokken got the opportunity though. Some of the matches I saw were fantastic.

I feel that would be a shame considering the high attendance.

HBox's puff fanart
http://stupjam.tumblr.com/post/147578597683/yay-for-evo-2016-hungrybox-jigglypuff-is-my

Next to Chris G winning this was the other thing that felt a long time coming.

 

[Lulubop]

I wonder how different SFV will be by next evo.

 

[sf2fanatic]

Dayum at Pokken.

SFV I'm not surprised. 3/5 matches and the top 8 tends to go to the wire often.

SFV could of been shorter but needed to pay for being on TV(commercials) and was worth it.


Also was this the first time in a while a JACK won Tekken?

E:

I wonder how different SFV will be by next evo.

Better. More characters, more combos, more lab time to fix

 

[SolidSnakex]

I wonder how different SFV will be by next evo.

It should be quite different. Assuming DLC goes the same way next year, there could be as many as six new characters by the time EVO roles around. There's also going to be a big balance update after the Capcom Cup. They've said that they won't do any dramatic changes during the actual season unless something is broken so as to not throw off any techniques that people have come up with.

 

[PreyingShark]

http://evo2016.s3.amazonaws.com/brackets/pok_a405.html

Yeah, I heard of that pool. Still as funny as when I first heard about it. lol

I don't believe most pools were close to that bad though.

 

[Aruarian Reflection]

Are there any VODs of the ESPN broadcast? Or if not the whole top 8, at least just the pre-produced segments

 

[KZXcellent]

I'm sure this was already posted (or it's old) but I just saw this gem on twitter.

 

[Alucrid]

if that's the price to pay i'll keep being a scrub

 

[BadWolf]

if that's the price to pay i'll keep being a scrub

He won 50K yesterday...

 

[SargerusBR]

I'm sure this was already posted (or it's old) but I just saw this gem on twitter.

There is hope for me then

 

[katsubento]

ESPNWatch on their site

Mahalo

 

[Shadow_Lord]

Oh shit the top 8 is on ESPNWatch for free. Awesome.

 

[mbpm1]

I'm sure this was already posted (or it's old) but I just saw this gem on twitter.

LI Joe is bald

Theory has some merit.

Fuudo has magical wizard powers to keep his appearance so he doesnt count

 

[mbpm1]

ESPNWatch on their site

If you have cable*

 

[katsubento]

Oh shit the top 8 is on ESPNWatch for free. Awesome.

I still get a prompt for my cable subscription saying I don't have access. I must be looking in the wrong place.

 

[A Pretty Panda]

ESPNWatch on their site

Thanks watching again

 

[Ferulci]

Smash 4, Melee (especially finals) and GG Top 8 were amazing.
MvC, MKX (except the finals) were mediocre imo though.

 

[Romars202129]

Smash 4, Melee (especially finals) and GG Top 8 were amazing.
MvC, MKX (except the finals) were mediocre imo though.

Watching Melee, I just realized I don't have an appreciation for high level smash play, probably because I only play it casually. Same with MvC.
But, GG and SFV rocked my socks, and I play them both a lot.
Maybe we just like what we play better?

 

[shas'la]

Been watching "I Got Next" again because of EVO and I can only recommend it. It features so many of today's prominent FGC personalities. LI Joe, Gootecks and Mike Ross are basically the main story, but there are also prominent appearances by Combofiend, James Chen, Justin Wong etc. It came out in 2009 when SF4 was pretty much blowing up.

Found a 720p version here for free:
https://archive.org/details/igotnext-shortcut

That's brilliant, also given the context of knowing how much a a massive deal "esports" have become in the 8 years since this.

Really good find.

EDIT: its so good seeing how all the personalities are there and how each of them have found their niche and are a success, i LOVE that.

 

[Tyrant Rave]

Fuudo wore the same clothes on Saturday and Sunday lol

He was hiding by us at Gundam on Saturday playing Hearthstone on his phone

 

[A Pretty Panda]

He was hiding by us at Gundam on Saturday playing Hearthstone on his phone

Nice

 

[KingBroly]

Smash 4, Melee (especially finals) and GG Top 8 were amazing.
MvC, MKX (except the finals) were mediocre imo though.

MKX's ending was kinda...anti-climactic. You had all that tension, all that back-and-forth and whatnot and it ends 2-0 after Sonic switched to Alien.

I think if any 1 match deserved to be on ESPN yesterday it was 110% Armada-Hungrybox in Melee. Best Match of the weekend and it wasn't close. Hungrybox was a Miracle Man.

 

[I-hate-u]

Is there no way I can watch the ESPN2 Top 8 version?

 

[biosnake20]

Can't wait to see the ratings for SFV on ESPN2.

 

[mnz]

Is there no way I can watch the ESPN2 Top 8 version?

I really want to know this, too.