we.are.the.armada
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So is this how they will catch up to PS4's tech?
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Examiner Rumor: Xbox One GPU upclock yay - 12 GB Ram probably nay (source is NOT B3D)
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What kind of clever person can witness the SimCity DISASTER and insist with online DRM?
It's not about the good news leaking, it's just that MS (and Nintendo) want to have detailed hours-long spec breakdowns and performance pie charts in their E3 2014 shows, so they can't have specs out in the wild before that. Would ruin the suspense.
dragonelite
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In my eyes specs shown aren't the real deal after launch then we can discuss real specs.
If anything current gen launch has shown that both companies like to spread lies about their current console which didn't deliver on launch.
Not really unless the apu has like 14CU like the 7790 and clocked at 1Ghz.
Which we know it doesn't. Hell we dont even know what the upclock speeds are.
mysteriousmage09
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Glad that guy got his clicks.
GameSeeker
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LOL at this thread, I'm amazed it hasn't been closed.
No. Even if this rumor is true, which it's highly, highly likely it's not, it still won't make the Xbone equally as powerful as the PS4. The only chance for the Xbone get even near the PS4 performance-wise is if Sony does some massive downclocking and/or other downgrades to the PS4 hardware, which is very, very likely NOT to happen.
Not even.
I bet Sony sandbagged on their specs by 50-100ghz as well. (Pure speculation).
Ladies and gentlemen, by believing this rumor, you are choosing to forego logic in attempt to grasp to any straw of hope. Actively spreading false information to 3rd parties like EA who microsoft payed 50 million to for the Titanfall timed exclusive and an undisclosed amount for the exclusive FIFA 14 content. Again, lol. Lets leave logic behind here people.
cookie-monster
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what a load of utter codswallop.
audiophiles don't buy consoles or anything crammed with irrelevant components, cooling fans and no shielding. Utter, complete uninformed drivel.
amstradcpc
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It seems Sony´s audio unit is only a mp3 decoder, not a DSP, so it needs almost a core to process the audio ( see KZ SF tech presentation ). In this X1 will be clearly in advantage.
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It doesn't matter what you think, we're talking about the articles "logic". Think of it like we're talking about a movie and how it all makes sense within its universe.
According to this article's logic the upgrade is 100% real and its hidden from devs not because it's not final specs but to avoid leaks (but it was leaked anyway by Microsoft that is the only one that knows about it). You can't pick and chose the parts of the article you like and ignore the rest to rationalize inconsistencies within the article.
Shalashaska161
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I kinda wish it were true. That 100 mhz overclock would only result in better looking games, including multiplats
SeaOfMadness
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Come on guys. Rumors are only instantly true if it's BAD news, ok?
Okay, looks like you are the author of all those Examiner articles. Please tell me where I was wrong. Also you might want to check out this thread, especially the part about self promotion.
Yes, lets forgo logic and ignore the inconsistencies in the article with confirmed data.
He didn't do this thread - I did.
And if he is the author of the article, he was also right about the new PoP being a mobile game.
edit: I misread something about the PoP thing. sorry.
Is this shit really necessary?
Rumors are usually true when they make sense and they're from a well-known source. Rumors, as Xbone fans have proven the last few months, don't become true with the power of denial or wishful thinking.
Doesn't sony have 6 more cores than xb1 though? They probably thought that through.
dragonelite
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Im pretty sure the articles mentioned first party were disclosed on the upclock.
3rd parties have to deal with both microsoft and sony so chances are higher that it will leak from a third party dev. Kinda like how edge knew or guessed about the 8gb of gddr5 most first party studios either didn't know or pretend they didn't know. You never know with these companies.
Microsoft can pull an upclock question is how much are they willing to sacrifice. Same for sony the small box makes a bit worrying about Ylod2.0 given it has more performances.
SMH..... Fanboy wars taking it too serious?
Not really as far as rumors go both have 8 jaguar cores so the same cpu.
Both will probably let developers use 6 cores for the game and 2 cores for the OS.
We have no clock information but rumors have them clock for both consoles at 1.6Ghz.
Now wondering are cpu and gpu clocked in ratio 2:1 for cpu.
Doug Heffernan
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hmm, you seem upset...
why could that be?
Ekim, looking at titanfall (neither 1080p nor the best looking xbone title), do you really believe they're running into a wall already? Lest we forget it also happens to be a cross generational game.
Wouldn't that require more transistors? Given they're already at 5billion I don't think that's a possibility this late unless they ditch the ESRAM, which they clearly have no intention of doing.
They publicly said that Xbone is 10 times more powerful than Xb360 and with cloud it's 40 times. So simple math.
Wouldn't that require more transistors? Given they're already at 5billion I don't think that's a possibility this late unless they ditch the ESRAM, which they clearly have no intention of doing.
They publicly said that Xbone is 10 times more powerful than Xb360 and with cloud it's 40 times. So simple math.
25% wouldnt do much since all multiplatform game will be developed base from the lowest spec machine. This is nothing new from last 2 gens.
Like many people said. The different will only be from first party title.
Glorified G
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Is where I stopped reading
dragonelite
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They added the transistor counts up on B3D there were still missing transistors maybe ms counted the custom chip inside kinect with the 5 billion figure.
6 more CUs, not CPU cores. Though, using a few CUs would be ideal for attempting to aid in audio.
If 1-3 CUs were used for audio om PS4, that would be 1-3 CUs not used in rendering. At leadt that's what Ivwould assume.
michaelius
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Radeon 7950 ?
AMD released boost bioses to increase clock speeds and combat 660ti/670/680 release and those worked for cards already released.
Of course it resulted with huge TDP increase due to high voltages they needed to assure stable operation of now overclocked parts.
Hmmm, that seems hasty. Perhaps they should wait until the end of the generation so they can show off the full performance curve. E3 2019 should be grrreat!
cookie-monster
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are your other arguments as well informed as your transparently clueless ideas about the audiophile market?
ethomaz
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Audio? PS4 have a dedicaded audio chip.
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You do realise that you're now backpedaling from your original explanation and you're going back to the explanation the article gave, right? So you believe that Microsoft is risking its relationship with developers, sacrificing graphics for launch games and delivering fake dev kits to hide an upclock. OK...
Does anyone remember Reiko?
amstradcpc
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A mp3 stream decoder that doesn´t process audio algorithms.So you still have to use the cpu for that ( and/or the GPU is you have free CUs ).
3rdamention
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Mildudon
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How does that make sense. Then the xbox360 with cloud is more power full then Xbone without cloud. That that statment with a mountain of salt.
You misread it. According to MS, the Xbone = 10x X360 and with cloud Xbone = 40x X360.
Secret sauce?
Well thats a positive rumor. Maybe the second half of the year will bring much better rumors for the Xbox One because the first half could not have been worse for it. So now we have had faster esram and an upclock rumor, now all we need is the 12 gb confirmation and the X1 will have done a 180 from earlier this year lol. Seems like Microsoft is trying a lot harder after hearing about the PS4 specs and that can only be a good thing for us gamers.
You mean the tech demo where they said they didnt have access to the audio chips.
Wow @ the logic. lol
dragonelite
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Sure its not wizard jizz?
2 extra CU is not what i would call secret sauce.
Mark cerny's own words.
Doesn't sounds like an custom build DSP but more like an extra unit to decode and mix chat with game sounds. But im not the right person to judge im not an audio expert.
Pound_lb003
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The kind that is surrounded by 999 other people affirming the same belief, and Diablo 3 selling gangbusters.
Adam Orth was unapologetic in his opinions, and opinions recognisably as bad as that only get formed through insularity.
Garrett 2U
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Well Amazon and Best Buy have run out of Day One editions of the Xbox One.
Maybe Microsoft is really changing the specs and that is why they can't manufacture enough units to keep up with demand?
EDIT: Sorry, not Toys R Us, that was Playstation.
Maybe Microsoft is really changing the specs and that is why they can't manufacture enough units to keep up with demand?
EDIT: Sorry, not Toys R Us, that was Playstation.
lol what? Are you being serious here?
amstradcpc
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No. Is the conclusion i get from reading things here and there.
True but what are the realistic chances of that happening now? Given MS's count it shows that all relevant (hopefully) parts were accounted for.
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