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This won't happen because Bethesda is tastefulI hope they'll consider the song for an eventual future trailer or TV Ad.
This won't happen because Bethesda is tastefulI hope they'll consider the song for an eventual future trailer or TV Ad.
It's a simple addition, but it makes the trailer SO much better.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=McDo4XGnW_k
YapAfter just watching the trailer (and not reading the thread) I believe its in Boston....right?
This is me as well. These games have horrible gameplay and janky physics. The exploration and world building are the redeeming aspectsDid you really think Oblivion or Fallout 3 or Skyrim had an awesome story?
I would say the same about gameplay but I don't want to get bogged down in an argument about definitions, since I imagine people have different ideas about what constitutes gameplay. For me, Bethesda games are about exploring a world with decent lore and lots of content. Everything else is mediocre at best. Shooting and fighting is janky. Interactivity amounts to rooms filled with junk items you can move around if you want, which I'm surprised to see really means a lot to some people.
Did you really think Oblivion or Fallout 3 or Skyrim had an awesome story?
I would say the same about gameplay but I don't want to get bogged down in an argument about definitions, since I imagine people have different ideas about what constitutes gameplay. For me, Bethesda games are about exploring a world with decent lore and lots of content. Everything else is mediocre at best. Shooting and fighting is janky. Interactivity amounts to rooms filled with junk items you can move around if you want, which I'm surprised to see really means a lot to some people.
The best part is that actually looking at that shot reminds me how good looking the game is in reality after you strip away all of the sour-grape talk. Esp. considering the immense scope of the sandbox world.
Are the GOTY/Ultimate editions of Fallout 3 and New Vegas worth it? Or should I just get the standard editions?
As long as that rumor about them forcing you to play a male is wrong, this is exactly what I'm expecting (except I'm hoping them voicing the character won't ruin my immersion as I fear it will . It's fine for games where you aren't making a character of a personality you have in mind already for it. Not so much in a game where part of the appeal is playing who ever you want).
And honestly, the more I look at the pictures, the better it looks. It looks like there is far more details in the world than before. That's far better to me than higher resolution or the character models being hugely different (To be honest how they do their character models never really bugged me). I'm more interested in them making the world more interesting than making the graphics more impressive.
The best part is that actually looking at that shot reminds me how good looking the game is in reality after you strip away all of the sour-grape talk. Esp. considering the immense scope of the sandbox world.
If I were to read nothing but the posts complaining about the graphics before seeing any actual media first-hand, the only logical conclusion would be that the game looks something like this.
Bethesda is taking note of the graphics backlash and delaying the game to late 2016 to give them time to tighten up the visuals.Would be amazing if this releases at the end of the year, don't believe it atm though :/
Absolutely. The DLC adds tons of content and, with the exception of a couple, are really good. And I don't think the GOTY editions cost much more anymore either.Are the GOTY/Ultimate editions of Fallout 3 and New Vegas worth it? Or should I just get the standard editions?
If the graphics are that painful to some one, why are they even playing Fallout or even interested in it? If you're playing Fallout for the graphics, you're doing it wrong.
There's so much other stuff they could focus on to make it better that would have far better effect on making it a good game (That focuses on why people like the game and not just making it pretty) than making the graphics pretty. Stuff that is actually more related to why people love Fallout than the pretty graphics.
How in the fuck are they still using these old ass running animations? That leads me to believe they've carried over a bunch of other stuff since it's the same fucking engine. The stiff gunplay could carry over. The awkward 3rd person view may be a carry over also. To me, that's worrying. And mentioning it/noticing this stuff doesn't mean I've been playing fallout for the wrong reasons.
Would be amazing if this releases at the end of the year, don't believe it atm though :/
Not sure if posted already ,but the FALLOUT 4 page is up on steam and you can preorder it now .
http://store.steampowered.com/app/377160/
That's ultra on PC, right?
this is one of the strangest comparisons I continue to see in this thread. Witcher 3 and Fallout might both be RPGs but they attempt to achieve very different experiences with their systems and to compare them on the surface like that does a disservice to both games. It's ridiculous. There's a lot that Witcher 3 does that Fallout doesn't do, and vice versa, because they've got very different focuses. I don't make the claim that Witcher 3 made compromises because its loot isn't real world modeled objects, like in Fallout, or because its world zones are segmented, unlike Fallout, do I? No, because that'd be crazy. Those measured decisions made during development suit the type of game Witcher is trying to be, like Fallout's systems and writing suit Fallout and its more personalized and open ended approach to roleplaying.Or we could play the Witcher 3, which has a better combat system, a bigger map, better storylines, better side-quests, better characters, and infinitely superior graphics all in one package, without having to compromise. You're acting like it's a trade-off that has to be made, but for the last few weeks we've all been playing a game that made no trade-off and delivered arguably the best RPG experience in the last decade or more.
To me, their worlds allow me to pretend I'm that character and I'm in that world. The little things like being able to move stuff around really does help with that. And Bethesda seems to do that kind of stuff well. I've yet to see any non turn based games that do it as well (They all seem to be really missing that. I mean I absolutely love Witcher but it definitely misses that because it's more aimed at you playing a particular story rather than playing whoever you want however you want). The many different tools you are given to choose how your character does stuff (is she good with dialogue, high charisma? Does she know a lot about science?). The fact you can do a whole peaceful play through even (in fact, if you look at people who love the Fallout games, this tends to be a marker... can we actually play without ever fighting and being a pacifist?).
No way this isn't coming out this year then. I even go out on a limb and say they will release it during or shortly after E3. Believe.
And I think we will all be floored when they show the game. The simulation stuff in the page source sounds like that we are going to have something like a fully simulated world where everything influences everything.
Please assist
Disgracefully, I have never tried the Fallout series. I don't get much time to game nowadays.
I want to get in to it, in anticipation for Fallout 4 (the hype is too real, can't avoid it...). I'll be trying either Fallout 3 or New Vegas, and I don't know which to pick. What would you recommend, and why?
Atmosphere is pretty important to me and I saw somebody saying that Fallout 3 was barren/dead compared to New Vegas. If true, is it considerable? Looking over the titles briefly it's daaaaaaaaaaaamn difficult to make a decision.
Also... How long does it generally take to be able to make threads here? I've been a member for a few months but noticed I'm unable to post a thread. Thanks.
EDIT: Thanks, Beelzebufo.
EB Games just officially confirmed that it's coming this year on their Twitter account
It's not a placeholder date
https://twitter.com/EBGamesAus/status/606349242760716288?s=09
EB Games just officially confirmed that it's coming this year on their Twitter account
It's not a placeholder date
https://twitter.com/EBGamesAus/status/606349242760716288?s=09
this is one of the strangest comparisons I continue to see in this thread. Witcher 3 and Fallout might both be RPGs but they attempt to achieve very different experiences with their systems and to compare them on the surface like that does a disservice to both games. It's ridiculous. There's a lot that Witcher 3 does that Fallout doesn't do, and vice versa, because they've got very different focuses. I don't make the claim that Witcher 3 made compromises because its loot isn't real world modeled objects, do I? No, because that'd be crazy.
EB Games just officially confirmed that it's coming this year on their Twitter account
It's not a placeholder date
https://twitter.com/EBGamesAus/status/606349242760716288?s=09
Witcher 3 is a perfectly valid comparison. One of the main reasons people love the original Fallout games is because of choice and consequence, which is something Witcher 3 does very well and something Bethesda have utterly failed at repeatedly.
EB Games just officially confirmed that it's coming this year on their Twitter account
It's not a placeholder date
https://twitter.com/EBGamesAus/status/606349242760716288?s=09
well considering that someone like you or me could literally work for EB games' twitter I don't think it's too much of confirmation.
Witcher 3 is a perfectly valid comparison because of one cherrypicked element out of many that help to define these very different games, huh? In the context the comparison was originally made in, no, Witcher 3 is not exactly a valid comparison. People don't play and enjoy Witcher 3 for exactly the same reasons they play and enjoy Fallout and to suggest as much is just plain asinine to me.
not to be a mood killer but preordering being available does not mean it will come out soon .
Witcher 3 was up for preordering for almost a year before it released .
Funny enough I was listening to the latest VideoGamer podcast, recorded before this trailer hit, and one thing stood out: One of the hosts talked about how Fallout has never been the greatest looking game, and that once Fallout 4 was revealed its visuals would be compared the most to Witcher 3 as another sprawling open world game - and that if Fallout 4 didn't compare favorably to Witcher 3 there'd be some real disappointment in online reactions.Witcher 3 is a perfectly valid comparison because of one cherrypicked element out of many that define these very different games, huh? In the context the comparison was made in, no, Witcher 3 is not exactly a valid comparison. People don't play and enjoy Witcher 3 for exactly the same reasons they play and enjoy Fallout and to suggest as much is just plain asinine to me.
You're right. People play and enjoy Witcher 3 for the excellent writing, amazing quests with choices that matter, and at the very least, decent combat. No one plays Fallout 3 for these things.
That box art is awful
hope it's just a placeholder
Funny enough I was listening to the latest VideoGamer podcast, recorded before this trailer hit, and one thing stood out: One of the hosts talked about how Fallout has never been the greatest looking game, and that once Fallout 4 was revealed its visuals would be compared the most to Witcher 3 as another sprawling open world game - and that if Fallout 4 didn't compare favorably to Witcher 3 there'd be some real disappointment in online reactions.
I think they nailed it. .
So because it's Bethesda we can excuse poor graphics and animations? There's no guarantee the game will run well. There's no guarantee the gameplay will be good. There's one thing we can judge right now and it's the graphics, which are subpar at best. Look at the first Skyrim gameplay trailer. Those graphics are at the same level if not superior. And that trailer was attempting to show the new gameplay as well. This Fallout trailer looks like an attempt to show off the graphics engine.
I'm not asking for photorealistim here. But I think it's proper to expect that the game doesn't look like a 2011 title, and fans ought to be disappointed that such a hugely anticipated game with a hugely ridiculous budget that will sell a huge amount of copies looks like this. I don't see the effort put into this. In addition to the poor graphics, they still have the same lousy animations and even in the trailer things look glitchy and janky.
I just want this game to be as good as possible. The gameplay will probably be phenomenal, story awesome etc. But we should push Bethesda to bring out the best possible product rather than continue to accept mediocrity based on the name of the company/franchise.
That box art is awful
hope it's just a placeholder
EB Games just officially confirmed that it's coming this year on their Twitter account
It's not a placeholder date
https://twitter.com/EBGamesAus/status/606349242760716288?s=09