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[theultimo]

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...ed-a-murderous-jade-helm-15-retaliation-plot/

Federal officials say three North Carolina men — Walter Eugene Litteral, 50; Christopher James Barker, 41; and Christopher Todd Campbell, 30 — spent months compiling their cache, much of it purchased through a military surplus store owner who became so concerned about the plot that the person became the FBI’s informant.

The men were arrested Saturday and charged with conspiracy and amassing weaponry allegedly to combat what they believe is the government’s plan to impose martial law through (among other things) the multistate military exercise known as Jade Helm.

In January, the informant relocated the military surplus store to Gaston County, N.C. — just a few doors down from where Campbell operated a tattoo parlor. Almost immediately, Campbell told the informant of his “anti-government” views, according to federal court documents.

A month later, Campbell introduced the informant to Litteral. The two men told the informant that they believed “that the federal government intended to use the armed forces to impose martial law in the United States, which they and others would resist with violent force,” the court documents said.

Specifically, they told the informant that the Jade Helm exercises planned in five states were a cover for the government’s plot to impose martial law. The exercises were scheduled to be conducted from July 15 to Sept. 15, and Litteral made it clear that he needed the military-grade items no later than July 15.

By April, months before the training operation was scheduled, the purchases from the military surplus store began — all of them paid for in cash, according to court documents. There were plans, the documents allege, to make pipe bombs, explosive tennis balls covered in nails and coffee cans filled with ball bearings that would be detonated with a shot from a sniper rifle.

And by mid-June, those plans were beginning to crystallize.

According to the documents, Litteral was heavily armed with both legally and illegally obtained weapons. If government agents came looking for him at his home, Litteral allegedly told the informant in a phone conversation, he would be ready.

“Lemme tell you something, I gonna have my f——- house rigged up; these motherf—— come try to come in my house, it’s gonna go off,” he said, according to the documents.

The plan involved testing the explosives on land in Shelby, N.C. But the ambush against U.S. forces would take place on Litteral and Campbell’s a 99-acre camp in Clover, S.C.

“According to [Campbell], he and Litteral intend to booby-trap the camp and draw government’s forces into the camp and kill them,” the warrant states.

On June 30, according to documents, Campbell told the informant that he feared that the government would soon declare martial law, saying: “S— is gonna go down soon.”

 

[Slayven]

So terrorists?

 

[Mr. Giggles]

Whoa... Sooooo what would they accomplish against the U.S. Armed forces?.... Really these three guys?

 

[LQX]

So terrorists?

They don't look like terrorists.

 

[Savitar]

Uneducated hicks think the government is coming to get them.

 

[WedgeX]

That middle man is a fat Dewey Crow.

 

[Bam Bam Baklava]

They don't look like terrorists.

We all know only arab people can be terrorists, duh.

 

[Leynos]

They don't look like terrorists.

You're right, they don't have brown skin, or turbans. Just some good ol' boys.

 

[GoldenEye 007]

Whoa... Sooooo what would they accomplish against the U.S. Armed forces?.... Really these three guys?

To be fair, the US military has been neutralized against unconventional and guerrilla forces before.

But yeah, these three guys? Nah.

 

[Slayven]

You're right, they don't have brown skin, or turbans. Just some good ol' boys.

well they were up to no good. Thank God the FBI is more competent than Roscoe P. Coletrain.

 

[Stinkles]

Jade Helm is happening right now, sheeple.


Edit. Wait a minute, given that Jade Helm would never actually live up to their paranoid fantasy, what crimes were they actually going to commit?

 

[vikki]

So they were plotting an attack sometime between July and September or they intended to defend their home when the military came knocking, which would never happen?

Edit: read the article, these guys are dangerously stupid.

 

[PantherLotus]

Right wing media and wing nut pols out there are directly complicit and should be held accountable. Jail time.

 

[The Faceless Master]

So terrorists?

by any other name

 

[Suikoguy]

Right wing media and wing nut pols out there are directly complicit and should be held accountable. Jail time.

It's hard to argue that the government of Texas and the right wing media outlets did not, at least in part, contribute to this.

 

[Makai]

They don't look like terrorists.

Litterally terrorists.

 

[Alric]

We gonna draxx. Them. Sklaunst

 

[speculawyer]

Well there's some classy looking fellows.

 

[Slayven]

y'all remember when Obama Nuked Charleston?

 

[NoblesseOblige]

Middle guy looks like he has a tiny head.

 

[JDSN]

This community needs to stop listening their country music, quit driving their smoke trucks and get their shit together. Where is the leadership? Also:

. .ayyyyyyyy

 

[Mrs. Manky]

You're right, they don't have brown skin, or turbans. Just some good ol' boys.

I dunno, that one in the middle is rocking dreads and a lot of tattoos. He could be one of those gangster thugs.

 

[speculawyer]

Thanks, Alex Jones.

 

[Alligatorjandro]

Right wing white supremacist militias scare me more than radical islamists

 

[Grover Cleveland]

The government is watching you sleep.
Watching you eat.
Watching you pee.


Waiting for the perfect moment to strike at everything you hold dear. Your family, your friends, your guns, your religion. They'll take it all away.


Wake up sheeple before it's too late

/arealfacebookpostin2015

 

[Rest]

Specifically, they told the informant that the Jade Helm exercises planned in five states were a cover for the government’s plot to impose martial law.

These guys should sign up to be part of North Korea's government, they've already got the ass-speak down.

 

[captive]

like, ok, you believe the government is going to impose martial law on the entirety of the United States. Cool, its nice to believe in things. But just think logically for a minute, how in the world would the government pull that off? The country is so spread out.

 

[Savitar]

The crazy thing about them is when the government does nothing they will beat their chest and say it's because the gov realized these people knew about their plans and so are now doing a new more insidious plan!

 

[speculawyer]

The government is watching you sleep.
Watching you eat.
Watching you pee.


Waiting for the perfect moment to strike at everything you hold dear. Your family, your friends, your guns, your religion. They'll take it all away.


Wake up sheeple before it's too late

/arealfacebookpostin2015

Ha! Jokes on them. I got no friends, guns or religion to take.

 

[Strike]

So terrorists?

Patriots exercising their God-given constitutional rights.

/s

 

[nailbombxx]

The crazy thing about them is when the government does nothing they will beat their chest and say it's because the gov realized these people knew about their plans and so are now doing a new more insidious plan!

Yeah, to people with these kinds of radical views, any sort of opposition, especially from the government is more fuel for the fire. It is both hilarious and sad.

 

[Gordon Shumway]

So terrorists?

A shade less than that, going by pop culture. Remember, when referring to the Mafia, you obviously are referencing the Italians..terrorist works the same.

 

[ThreePiMatt]

Whoa... Sooooo what would they accomplish against the U.S. Armed forces?.... Really these three guys?

They were are last and only hope.

Goodbye freedom.

 

[alr1ght]

like, ok, you believe the government is going to impose martial law on the entirety of the United States. Cool, its nice to believe in things. But just think logically for a minute, how in the world would the government pull that off? The country is so spread out.

I don't think they know how to think logically. Three dudes, no matter the arsenal is not going to be able to stand up to the US military.

 

[ramuh]

That middle man is a fat Dewey Crow.

Haha. OMG. Dewey would fit right in!

 

[neogaffer1]

They don't look like terrorists.

better?

 

[Irobot82]

so these guys were arrested for pre-crime?

 

[EatChildren]

In cases like this I always feel giving excessive information on the informant's identity strikes me as a little bit reckless.

 

[EloquentM]

In cases like this I always feel giving excessive information on the informant's identity strikes me as a little bit reckless.

That's his old name. His new name is Darryl

Spoiler

shit

 

[TheJLC]

so these guys were arrested for pre-crime?

No, there was a crime. They conspired to commit a crime which is a crime in itself. If you plot to commit a crime and take a step of furtherance to make it possible, you can be arrested.

 

[Irobot82]

No, there was a crime. They conspired to commit a crime which is a crime in itself. If you plot to commit a crime and take a step of furtherance to make it possible, you can be arrested.

what crime did they conspire to commit?

in this quote

A month later, Campbell introduced the informant to Litteral. The two men told the informant that they believed “that the federal government intended to use the armed forces to impose martial law in the United States, which they and others would resist with violent force,” the court documents said.

It says they would resist with violent force. Indicating they wouldn't start the violence but were preparing to defend themselves against violence.

The article makes it sound like they intended to lure agents out to kill them but never quote them saying that. Why not? Why do they only quote stuff not related to committing a crime but then quote other things?

 

[speculawyer]

It says they would resist with violent force. Indicating they wouldn't start the violence but were preparing to defend themselves against violence.

That's news article, not the trial.

They probably had the informant offer to sell them automatic weapons or explosives or something. They generally do a pretty good job of making sure they've got the people dead to rights conspiring to do something illegal before they arrest them.


They have to be careful about entrapment though.

 

[Eighty Deuce]

So stockpiling guns/ammo and not trusting the federal government is a crime. Cool.

 

[The Faceless Master]

edit: nm, not playing with you

 

[Irobot82]

That's news article, not the trial.

They probably had the informant offer to sell them automatic weapons or explosives or something. They generally do a pretty good job of making sure they've got the people dead to rights conspiring to do something illegal before they arrest them.


They have to be careful about entrapment though.

Ok now we're getting somewhere. Trying to buy that stuff, that's a crime. Not a conspiracy to commit terrorist acts or "a murderous Jade Helm 15 retaliation plot" as the article says.

oh i dunno, maybe this crime...

Again according to Campbell but not quoting what any of the alleged criminals said. I'm not saying they aren't guilty. I'm just playing DA at shitty reporting and conjecture shit.

It reminds me of this bullshit here. Just the FBI getting numbers on the books to justify their budgets.

For all we know the informant could have been the one egging them on.

 

[KHarvey16]

So stockpiling guns/ammo and not trusting the federal government is a crime. Cool.

No, illegally obtaining weapons, buying weapons for felons and conspiring to lure military and law enforcement into a deadly ambush is a crime.

 

[CarpeDeezNutz]

You could change the title as "FBI breaks up meth lab" and going by those photos I would believe it.

I will never understand the mentality of people who can worship the armed forces like Jesus and then turn around and act like they would want to put the US under martial law. I think the militia dude only see them as the latter though.


Edit: I want to see what all these jade helm nuts have to say after sept 15th

 

[Eighty Deuce]

No, illegally obtaining weapons, buying weapons for felons and conspiring to lure military and law enforcement into a deadly ambush is a crime.

That shit needs to be put in the OP, the way it was posted made it seem like they were arrested for just being crazy over jade helm.

 

[KHarvey16]

That shit needs to be put in the OP, the way it was posted made it seem like they were arrested for just being crazy over jade helm.

You're right, the OP really doesn't include much substance. And looking back I think the thread would look pretty different if it did.

C'mon OP.

 

[King Tubby]

This hysteria is the result of years upon years of dog-whistle slandering Obama as some kind of Muslim socialist Manchurian tyrant.