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[EatinOlives]

So let's call these crazy people sane and assume they're right, that the military is going to impose martial law.

What makes them think that buying a bunch of shit from a military surplus store (aka shit the military doesn't want) is going to put them toe-to-toe against a government with military technology that you can't buy off a dude in a warehouse?

 

[illmatic22]

Thugs

 

[bangbang i'm a timpani]

oh thats where Ken got his hair in SF5 from. Bananas everwhere.

 

[F0rneus]

We gonna draxx. Them. Sklaunst

Dem Jade Helms army folks trying to get froggy...

 

[Walpurgis]

So let's call these crazy people sane and assume they're right, that the military is going to impose martial law.

What makes them think that buying a bunch of shit from a military surplus store (aka shit the military doesn't want) is going to put them toe-to-toe against a government with military technology that you can't buy off a dude in a warehouse?

Isn't this the one of the reasons why so many Americans keep guns in their homes?

 

[Mimosa97]

Feels like americans only get angry when it's foreigners who attack them. When it's homegrown terrorists, people are just like " Eh ... No big deal ".

 

[xDUMPWEEDx]

These three fine examples of trash need to be disposed of. Send their asses to Gitmo.

 

[Jenov]

Feels like americans only get angry when it's foreigners who attack them. When it's homegrown terrorists, people are just like " Eh ... No big deal ".

Yah, the Oklahoma bombing... eh.. no big deal guyz.

 

[Gordon Shumway]

better?

lol..

 

[King Tubby]

Feels like americans only get angry when it's foreigners who attack them. When it's homegrown terrorists, people are just like " Eh ... No big deal ".

1. #NotAllAmericans
2. Pretty much every country in the world is exactly the same in this regard.
3. The FBI and other law enforcement agencies take domestic terrorism extremely seriously.
4. What do you expect the United States to do? Declare war on itsel- oh my god the Jade Helmers were right!!!

 

[xbhaskarx]

amassing weaponry allegedly to combat what they believe is the government’s plan to impose martial law through (among other things) the multistate military exercise known as Jade Helm.

Red Dawn 2: Obama's America

 

[Vandiger]

They fall into that category of McVeigh and the Unabomber....will they be sent to Gitmo or just some supermax prision

 

[CarpeDeezNutz]

Feels like americans only get angry when it's foreigners who attack them. When it's homegrown terrorists, people are just like " Eh ... No big deal ".

Uhhhhh wut? I don't feel comfortable with these idiots running around playing solider.

 

[TheOMan]

We gonna draxx. Them. Sklaunst

LOL, just watches this the other day. Amazing.

 

[mr2xxx]

So did the right wing media really stir shit up about this? I had some lady in So Cal in front of cost co, call me over and started telling me to be aware of Jade Helm and to Google it. I gave her a confused WTF face and asked her for actual info about it, she just said google it. Fuck you crazy lady, stop being lazy.

 

[kame-sennin]

No, there was a crime. They conspired to commit a crime which is a crime in itself. If you plot to commit a crime and take a step of furtherance to make it possible, you can be arrested.

And so goes the circular logic of conspiracy law.

 

[hipbabboom]

So terrorists?

Nope. Patriots!

 

[Dram]

So did the right wing media really stir shit up about this?

Texas' Governor and Chuck Norris had a hand in it as well.

 

[speculawyer]

And so goes the circular logic of conspiracy law.

It is what it is.

But it does require at least two people and taking an affirmative step in the direction of committing the crime. So it is a way to actually prevent further crimes. We don't just want to always being prosecuting AFTER someone has been killed or robbed.

But is it 'pre-crime'? No. That's just one person thinking about committing a crime.

 

[Arkeband]

I bet they're sitting in jail freaking out thinking that the military's 'getting away with it' in their absence.

 

[Prototype Viktor]

So terrorists?

#iLookLikeIEngineerTerrorism


5 years with probation most likely?

 

[Savitar]

I bet they're sitting in jail freaking out thinking that the military's 'getting away with it' in their absence.

They probably expect a people uprising will bust them out and help end this horrible government oppression.

 

[Mimosa97]

Yah, the Oklahoma bombing... eh.. no big deal guyz.

You'd be surprised at the number of people who think that 9/11 is the first " big " terrorist act perpetrated on US soil.

1. #NotAllAmericans
2. Pretty much every country in the world is exactly the same in this regard.
3. The FBI and other law enforcement agencies take domestic terrorism extremely seriously.
4. What do you expect the United States to do? Declare war on itsel- oh my god the Jade Helmers were right!!!

I'm lazy so yeah I shouldn't have said americans. I meant conservatives who can't stop talking about how dem muslims are coming to gettussss and don't really care about white supremacists and groups of the sort who pose a legit threat to national security.

And no it's not all countries. A lot of countries are very very hard on far-right groups who pose a terrorist threat. France is a good example. And those are like kittens compared to their american counterparts.

As for the FBI and the administration, right after the Dylan Roof shooting, I saw an ex-FBI analyst saying on the news that there weren't enough analysts working on local threats. Almost all the manpower is dedicated to fighting islamic terrorism. It's understandable but the guy was genuinely worried. Maybe the recent incidents will have repercussions ?

 

[B.O.O.M]

We all know only arab people can be terrorists, duh.

This is just wrong...ALL brown skinned people = potential terrorist. Hence all the 'random' checks which usually ends up being the only brown guy in the line at airports.

 

[Zeus Molecules]

These guys are literally the equivalent of domestic suicide bombers.

Fucking ashats were planning to ambush the army

 

[SchrodingerC]

Basically more angry white men? it's almost always the paranoid, angry, white men with delusions of the super evil government is after them/ too powerful and it's up to them to murder innocents to correct this wrong.

 

[Zeus Molecules]

Basically more angry white men? it's almost always the paranoid, angry, white men with delusions of the super evil government is after them/ too powerful and it's up to them to murder innocents to correct this wrong.

Whenever democrats are in charge they go extra crazy. I feel conservative media riles them up but nobody could ever prove it.

 

[dead souls]

Right wing white supremacist militias scare me more than radical islamists

Me too, and I think that's the correct way to view the situation.

 

[Baraka in the White House]

Texas Governor Greg Abbot and most of AM radio should be held complicit in shit like this.

 

[Leunam]

Whenever democrats are in charge they go extra crazy. I feel conservative media riles them up but nobody could ever prove it.

It's not even a feeling dude, it's very clear this is what has been happening.

 

[kame-sennin]

It is what it is.

But it does require at least two people and taking an affirmative step in the direction of committing the crime. So it is a way to actually prevent further crimes. We don't just want to always being prosecuting AFTER someone has been killed or robbed.

But is it 'pre-crime'? No. That's just one person thinking about committing a crime.

Yeah, but as you know, the "substantial step" test is really flexible in some jurisdictions. When it comes to these FBI "terrorism" busts, the 'substantial step' can be accidentally glancing at a federal informant.

And although not a factor in this case, one of the things that discuss me most about conspiracy laws is how they're used to 'pile on' charges for people who have committed other crimes - like drug dealing. This is a particularly popular practice among NYC DA's when prosecuting young black men.

 

[sturmdogg]

Uneducated hicks think the government is coming to get them.

I know, right? Everybody knows the gubment already owns your sorry ass.

 

[mj1108]

Right wing media and wing nut pols out there are directly complicit and should be held accountable. Jail time.

The right wingers will refer to these guys as "patriots".

 

[HP_Wuvcraft]

They don't look like terrorists.

Yesterday, I saw a Fox News report on "Lone Wolves".

Even though it was pretty accurate, it was fairly easy to spot the real agenda of the show.

 

[Armaros]

The crazy thing about them is when the government does nothing they will beat their chest and say it's because the gov realized these people knew about their plans and so are now doing a new more insidious plan!

To conspiracy theorists.

The government is simultaneously ultra-competent and ultra-incompetent about these things. They can plan these extremely intricate plans to fly planes into the Twin Towers, have government agents shoot up a school or movie theater, yet allows these people to somehow figure out their plans and speak about it publicly.