lucebuce12
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SF5 Zeku
His V-Trigger actually makes him younger? Jesus Christ.
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His V-Trigger actually makes him younger? Jesus Christ.
katsubento
Member
They said next week too.
Tizoc
Member
Haven't seen that in a fighting game since Power Instinct series.
Hmm Kanji DOES turn into his younger self during a super in Matrimelee but that doesn't count :V
sixteen-bit
Member
That doesn't look like his v-trigger tho. We see him pop V-trigger in both old and young forms in the trailer, whcih seems to allow him to chain normals like Juri
lucebuce12
Member
Yeah it might not be his V-Trigger but it does seem like his younger self comes into play. Probably a stance based character like Gen, only it switches out characters.
What's next week? I heard Ono say something about next week but I couldn't understand him.
Edit: Maybe he was referring to him releasing on the 24th.
QisTopTier
XisBannedTier
katsubento
Member
Yes, Zeku releasing next week on the 24th.
Master Milk
Member
but monster hunter comes out next week
sorry zeku
or wait, is she this week?
sorry zeku
or wait, is she this week?
ColonialHawk
Member
Marvel this week, SFV next week.
shaowebb
Member
Busy weekend. Hit a convention. Played Marvel with a bunch of folks there for awhile. Inflicted reality stone spam on them and saw the salt. Let them choose reality stone after they saw me do it and then swapped to Time stone with Hulk/Jedah and simply armored or jedahed my way through em. Swapped to X/Hulk after that and hit the infinity storm X infinite of straight up heavy kick mashing. Fun times. I am shit at this game, but I showed people how to be cheap and it spread through them pretty quickly. One girl started abusing Dorm/ Ghost Rider and soulstone infinity storm on what I think was her brother.
Marvel Infinite is fun as fuck at all levels of play is my take away. None of us were good by any stretch and we were all still cheap as fuck and able to feel like we were pulling shit off at even the briefest of time with it. It was a great time and everyone had a "moment".
Only thing holding this game back is its barren recycled roster and extremely rough around the edges art. Hope the patching keeps on coming to fix it up. Its beyond too late though sadly. It super bombed. Sad...its a blast.
Oh shit, Hazama, Rachel Alucard and Weiss Schnee! Weiss looks like she got her some of them Lambda/Nu/Mu sorts of tricks goin on. I thought she'd be a summoner with rushdown tools and it looks like I'm pretty close to what they ended up doing from what little I saw. Can't wait to play this thing. Wasn't expecting the next Blaz Blue picks to be those two at all either. Pretty pumped they chose them...they had really stylish playstyles that add a lot to a roster.
Marvel Infinite is fun as fuck at all levels of play is my take away. None of us were good by any stretch and we were all still cheap as fuck and able to feel like we were pulling shit off at even the briefest of time with it. It was a great time and everyone had a "moment".
Only thing holding this game back is its barren recycled roster and extremely rough around the edges art. Hope the patching keeps on coming to fix it up. Its beyond too late though sadly. It super bombed. Sad...its a blast.
Oh shit, Hazama, Rachel Alucard and Weiss Schnee! Weiss looks like she got her some of them Lambda/Nu/Mu sorts of tricks goin on. I thought she'd be a summoner with rushdown tools and it looks like I'm pretty close to what they ended up doing from what little I saw. Can't wait to play this thing. Wasn't expecting the next Blaz Blue picks to be those two at all either. Pretty pumped they chose them...they had really stylish playstyles that add a lot to a roster.
shaowebb
Member
Honestly, hearing the addition of second V Triggers is coming for the cast has my curiosity back up on the title similar to how Red Focus made me interested in giving SF4 another look years ago. I may fire SFV back up once its out to see how I feel about the game then.
Tizoc
Member
Awesome artwork for the sake of awesome artwork~
World Heroes 2 matches
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=161cQXe3Qq8
King of Fighters '95 matches
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7TL6bhegdCI
1 Hour of King of Fighters 02 UM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6OkiTupUIBE
90 mins. of King of Fighters '98
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tJiPTwTgbFo
1 Hour of King of Fighters XIV
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SHjrW9bLrZU
Fatal Fury 2 Special matches
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIVXPFUaF9A
Fight Fever matches
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Wcno4s1DSg
90+ mins. of Puyo Puyo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tFGXx-NX5ko
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4MqaQeeW19Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RkdXyCxtj2g
90 mins. of BlazBlue
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s4FJ4Yq2wCU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZOEOa8cJYCI
1 Hour of Dead or Alive 5
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jO5QM-o5TjU
1 Hour of Guilty Gear Xrd
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=StiKR0wLrFM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YxeD1kx_lsE
90 mins. of Melty Blood
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fow5YL8-pOQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bSRCUkvCv4s
Heh well if he stays in his Young form for a certain duration during a match I'd say he counts
sixteen-bit
Member
Close, but 5/6 ain't bad.
lucebuce12
Member
Yeah, it turns out that it's both a special (down down then 2punches) and used as a V-skill. Both are used for different situations (V-skill probably works as a combo ender)
But shit a LOT of work has gone into this character. Two separate sets of specials and normals and throws.
https://www.reddit.com/r/StreetFighter/comments/76n3d2/zeku_movelist/
lucebuce12
Member
I think it's kinda cool they went to all this trouble to make a character that only Xian will play.
ShadowSoldier89
Member
but...thats not really that complex
So you're gonna learn all that for sfv
sixteen-bit
Member
I wonder if Xian will play Zeku since he's more or less a stance character
ShadowSoldier89
Member
I dont play dudes. Or SFV
lucebuce12
Member
He fits a lot of boxes.
Old AF (Oro)
Ninja (Ibuki)
Has multiple stances. (Gen)
Old AF (Gen)
Complicated in comparison to the rest of the cast. (Gen)
Only thing missing is he's not a Chinese assassin (Gen,F.A.N.G)
A Pretty Panda
fuckin' called it, man
They did this on purpose. Stop liking old Dante
Jokes aside the MCVI team probably has no idea what Itsuno is doing with DMC5.
They didn't consult with him at all when creating Dante for Infinite.
Who gives a shit about a donte
Joe Fix-it
Yeaaaaaaah booooy
Give me all the dumb hulk outfits
Give me dumb mutant 2099 hulk
Give me Red hulk with a different voice and he got a mustache and shades
Give me Myestro
Give me incest baby hulk Jr from the old man logan universe
Give me Ghost Rider symbiote red hulk
All the dumb hulk outfits, all of em
Joe Fix-it
Yeaaaaaaah booooy
Give me all the dumb hulk outfits
Give me dumb mutant 2099 hulk
Give me Red hulk with a different voice and he got a mustache and shades
Give me Myestro
Give me incest baby hulk Jr from the old man logan universe
Give me Ghost Rider symbiote red hulk
All the dumb hulk outfits, all of em
Holy Order Sol
Member
It's always been this.
Looking at his move list and description, he seems the opposite of complicated to me. Not every character should be super easy to use like Cammy. If he's good enough to make him worth learning, he will be used, especially with all these Strider fans eating up his design.
Z
ZelbZelb
Unconfirmed Member
Forgot to post JoJo ASB this week:
Kosaku Kira VS Gyro:
http://www.mmcafe.com/nico.html#http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm31961961
I've gone over both characters before, but it's been a while since I posted a vid with them. If anyone's got questions, I'll be happy to answer them.
Kosaku Kira VS Gyro:
http://www.mmcafe.com/nico.html#http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm31961961
I've gone over both characters before, but it's been a while since I posted a vid with them. If anyone's got questions, I'll be happy to answer them.
sixteen-bit
Member
I hope Jedah gets Midnight Bliss alt
katsubento
Member
It's his calling.
So I was looking at the rules for this year's Capcom Pro Tour, and it looks like you automatically qualify via points after the last tournament (NA Finals) ends.
Everyone currently above MenaRD (Mago and above) are already qualified for Capcom Cup because Canada Cup is the last event that can give out points, and even with an all top 8 that all include people from outside the top 30, there wouldn't be any way for Mago to drop 10 spots out and out of the top 30 in points.
Latin America Finals has a good chance of somebody out of the top 30 qualifying, and NA finals has a decent chance of somebody out of the top 30 qualifying.
As for the last chance qualifier right before Capcom Cup, the top 30 are disqualified from entering, so there's no gate keeping there.
https://twitter.com/SRKRanking/status/919521804816977920
Fchamp is 30th right now. Unless he finishes high at Canada Cup, he's fucked.
Everyone currently above MenaRD (Mago and above) are already qualified for Capcom Cup because Canada Cup is the last event that can give out points, and even with an all top 8 that all include people from outside the top 30, there wouldn't be any way for Mago to drop 10 spots out and out of the top 30 in points.
Latin America Finals has a good chance of somebody out of the top 30 qualifying, and NA finals has a decent chance of somebody out of the top 30 qualifying.
As for the last chance qualifier right before Capcom Cup, the top 30 are disqualified from entering, so there's no gate keeping there.
https://twitter.com/SRKRanking/status/919521804816977920
Fchamp is 30th right now. Unless he finishes high at Canada Cup, he's fucked.
Rice-Eater
Member
Latin America is guaranteed to have someone outside the top 30 winning it. Brolynho and Mena both confirmed they're not going because there is no prize money to win. So it's a race to get in the top 30 now instead of the top 31.
It's a very tight race because you have FChamp, Xiaobao, NL, and 801 Strider within 20 points of each other from 30th-33rd place with Sako, Go1, and Luffy not too far ahead either. And a ton of guys can still make it in if they win Canada Cup. But that doesn't seem likely since all the usual suspects are there again.
But anyways, Canada Cup is super important this year. It's going to decide the fate of a dozen+ of players that are still trying to get in or are borderline.
A Pretty Panda
fuckin' called it, man
No. He needs to continue the streak.
Spuck-uk
Banned
When almost every character in Tekken has 100+ moves, and when even the universal tools in Xrd are more complex than any SFV character, I don't think Zeku looks complicated at all.
I think it's an issue of relative toolsets. You can have games with more complex mechanics, but in something like SF5 making a character like Menat or Zeku kind of pointless if you need to put in 10x the work and still get less results than a Boxer or Laura player just rolling their face on the stick.
This concept isn't exclusive to SFV and that same issue applies to nearly every fighting game.
Why play Zato or Millia when you play much easier but still very good characters like Sin and Raven?
Spuck-uk
Banned
Eh, Laura at least has a lot more depth to her setups than, say, Ken. I do agree though, why bother with Juri or Vega when the system is shallow enough that they don't really have any overt strengths.
...look, I'm still mad about Vegas shitty normals, and his claw having a hurtbox and no hitbox on most of his attacks.
Spuck-uk
Banned
Milia isnt much harder to use than Raven, has a weaker neutral but much stronger oki.
Zato is hilariously hard to use, does less damage than Sin, but has better pressure by far once they're blocking. Also way more tools (fireball reflect, command grab, drill 'projectile')
I don't think the characters really equate to each other.
sixteen-bit
Member
imagine if he pulls off an upset tho
The doesn't mean the the point they were making isn't true. Any game is going to have characters who are both strong and easy to learn, thus in some ways making it difficult to justify playing a more complex character.