SonicX_Zero
Member
WoTL for the PSP was great and the PSP version of TO:LUCT was also great and I would also like to enjoy more SRPG from you SE just like those great games, but ffs wtf is this??? ;________;
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Final Fantasy Tactics S - First Trailer
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Lactose_Intolerant
Member
This sounds like the most plausible explanation. They needed to slap Final Fantasy on the title to get the fanboys to pick it up.
Ogre Battle, which they own too.
Ben Morales
Member
So... This game doesn't have music/sound effects, correct? And it's played within a browser on your smartphone? ;_;
I want to try it because I liked Ogre Battle's game play but man... Dat browser game jank...
I want to try it because I liked Ogre Battle's game play but man... Dat browser game jank...
Danny Dudekisser
I paid good money for this Dynex!
Disgusting.
Is this true?
Lol as awful as it seems I was going to buy it just for curiosity, but this is pretty much a browser game?
Nope, SE.
It's almost assuredly f2p, so you wouldn't actually have to buy it.
Haunted
Member
Ironically, this picture is from 2004, yet still absolutely topical. (It also complains about what many think to be the last good Final Fantasy game).
SolsticeZero
Banned
They destroyed any hope for a sequel to FFT when they started making that Tactics Advance bullshit.
The Tactics Advance games are sequels. And also awesome and not at all bullshit.
SolsticeZero
Banned
They're extremely bullshit. They took what was one of the most wonderfully crafted political stories with some of the greatest characters ever and said "that shit don't matter, toss in some kids from a dream or some shit and make it colorful!" There was still so much they could have worked with after the story in FFT. The empire was still in shambles, the church was crumbling. It was fucking chaos. Ripe for progression. But now. Let's take a couple of snowball fighting grade school kids, plop them in a world, have them make friends instantly and go to save the world! Bullshit, mang. Bullshit.
And yet, they're much better games in every way that actually matters.
Meccanical
Member
Except not.
BananaBomb
Member
nope, they are not. stupid extra races were annoying, the invulnerability of your troops was idiotic, and generally the pacing was extremely bad compared to the original.
SolsticeZero
Banned
You're right. Magical fighting judges that tell me I can't use certain abilities during battle because "lulz its da law" is such a better system. Having children as the main characters instead of murderers, thieves, traitors, and liars is so much better. Matsuno's vision for Ivalice was so much more. And Squaresoft just stomped on it by having it basically a game about a kid dreaming about Final Fantasy.
BananaBomb
Member
oh jesus i forgot about the judges. god DAMN that was stupid.
Wyndstryker
Member
They see $$$$ in iOS land
Oh no, you actually have to fight different battles different ways, how tragic
And this is just a lie. Final Fantasy Tactics had remarkably bad pacing. Random regular stages with massive difficulty spikes for absolutely no reason? Sometimes inside of towers that you can't leave if you save inside of? Total bullshit.
SolsticeZero
Banned
Giving me different enemies makes me fight in different ways.
Enemies using reflect? Well, magic is out.
Enemies have high evade? Well, there go my archers.
But no. We got a guy telling me instead. It's like the Sesame Street version of Final Fantasy. They gave me fucking Oscar the Grouch saying "I don't like swords! Don't use em or Big Bird'll take you to jail and you'll share a cell with Elmo!"
I can think of only two battles in FFT that had horrible pacing (The fight with Velius and the battle with the Marquis on top of Riovanes, right after Velius). And can't get out of a hole? Level up your jump. There were so many ways to tackle battles.
BananaBomb
Member
i think this is related to the game actually having a semblance of challenge, unlike its successors.
I'm not a fan of where it went after FFT, but there's nothing wrong with going in a different direction.
That sounds like FFT to me.
jimmypython
Member
So they are talking about big IPs stop being relevant anymore.....
No, it's related to the individual battles being so randomly designed that the difficulty curve looks like a cardiograph.
SolsticeZero
Banned
Well, they've been steadily concentrating on destroying the Final Fantasy name. I have hope for Versus XIII if they ever show anything more of it.
Zuhzuhzombie!!
Member
Which is awesome.
Now tell me the catch. There's some kind of All the Bravest level bullshit that makes it awful, right?
Meccanical
Member
Yes.
fluffydelusions
Member
The original hasn't even hit Android yet ffs
Meccanical
Member
Zuhzuhzombie!!
Member
Judges were added because the games were technologically limited and could not provide decent AI.
They're awful games. I beat the second one without even realizing I was on the last boss. It was insanely easy.
They also require heavy grinding.
You didn't get Cid until the end of the game anyway.
Tell me. What is it?
ed
I have absolutely not one single problem with this being more Ogre Battle than Tactics Ogre.
Except Advance 2, which had the world's shittiest crafting system which made learning abilities a chore and a half, as well as having taken and ruined the law system from TA by making it fixed to maps/battles so you couldn't employ any strategy with it and then giving laws of the highest level of absurdity with it like "don't get stolen from" and "don't deal critical hits" which the player had no control over, as opposed to TA's system, which the player had control over and could therefore strategize.
Would it really be too much trouble to make a FFTA3 for 3DS? Heck just reuse all the sprites if they want to be cheap, fit more units on screen, use polygonal landscapes again, whip up another Neverending Story book plot and give me copious amounts of frivolous sidequests to do on the bus and while I'm dozing off and I'll be a happy camper.
The original FFT may have had politics and depth up in yinyang, but of the countless times I have tried hard to play that game I never once felt like I was having FUN, maybe it's the sluggish pacing or unintuitive cumbersome interface or being bombarded with depressing tragic events without an ounce of joy to be found, but it's definitely missing whatever A and A2 have that I can never pry myself away from.
The original FFT may have had politics and depth up in yinyang, but of the countless times I have tried hard to play that game I never once felt like I was having FUN, maybe it's the sluggish pacing or unintuitive cumbersome interface or being bombarded with depressing tragic events without an ounce of joy to be found, but it's definitely missing whatever A and A2 have that I can never pry myself away from.
Maverickjin8
Neo Member
Hey nice, my account finally got activated. Hello this will be my first post here, kinda sad that it's about FFTs though.
Anyway a lot of people are mentioning All the Bravest, but that's not really the same thing. This is more similar to Airborne Brigade.
I pre-registered for the game when they announced it simply because I wanted Agrias, even though I'd never play the game. It really is typical Mobage. You play it through your phone's internet browser for starters. You go "questing" by spending points, which when drained you get to wait like hours or buy an item to restore them. Battles are done automatically with no control input at all. Most of the battles I fought were won in a single attack. The only "tactics" here are what jobs you put in battle. Basic battles seem to be 3 characters only. I didn't get far enough to see those massive battles, I assume they are major bosses or the social version of a PVP system.
All races/jobs are simply cards you collect, can be leveled up, but you can actually equip them this time, or at least level up their equipment. Agrias was a SR, Max Lv60. Killed a boss in 2 hits, 2nd hit was Stasis Sword.
As for "All the Bravest", that was just Square making their own game and not really understanding how social stuff works (probably for the best). There's no competition in that game, so there's no mentality of "Oh man I need to play this game even more than it lets me!". I beat the game without buying a single item to restore my energy. I did buy the World stuff, because hey I wanted to see the sprites for VII,X,XIII.
Anyway a lot of people are mentioning All the Bravest, but that's not really the same thing. This is more similar to Airborne Brigade.
I pre-registered for the game when they announced it simply because I wanted Agrias, even though I'd never play the game. It really is typical Mobage. You play it through your phone's internet browser for starters. You go "questing" by spending points, which when drained you get to wait like hours or buy an item to restore them. Battles are done automatically with no control input at all. Most of the battles I fought were won in a single attack. The only "tactics" here are what jobs you put in battle. Basic battles seem to be 3 characters only. I didn't get far enough to see those massive battles, I assume they are major bosses or the social version of a PVP system.
All races/jobs are simply cards you collect, can be leveled up, but you can actually equip them this time, or at least level up their equipment. Agrias was a SR, Max Lv60. Killed a boss in 2 hits, 2nd hit was Stasis Sword.
As for "All the Bravest", that was just Square making their own game and not really understanding how social stuff works (probably for the best). There's no competition in that game, so there's no mentality of "Oh man I need to play this game even more than it lets me!". I beat the game without buying a single item to restore my energy. I did buy the World stuff, because hey I wanted to see the sprites for VII,X,XIII.
LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
I don't like what I see. Gameplay seems limited compared to traditional FFT.
But the benefits/downsides to obeying/breaking the laws changed entirely in A2, for the better (in my opinion).
I thought it was a 3DS game until the end with the S. I wasn't sure on the low end graphics whether it was just a shitty release or a cellphone game. Their previous handheld efforts have been pretty bad on the graphics side outside of Kingdom Hearts.
Either way, this is the new Square Enix and JRPGs are dead.
Either way, this is the new Square Enix and JRPGs are dead.