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Final Fantasy XV Impressions: Mark All Spoilers
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Hashmal_Bringer_of_Order
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Spira in FFX is a single island chain on a large planet. You see this clearly when Sin tries to pull the moon down and we get a shot of the entire hemisphere.
FFXII takes place across three "continents", Valendia, Ordalia, and Kerwon, which are connected in much the same way Africa is connected to Asia. All of these are theorised to be east of where Final Fantasy Tactics takes place.
Are Suikoden and Trails games unplayable for you?
Holy shit I forgot suikoden. It would probably give the poster a heart attack when he sees the world size, how much each covers and the fact that we'll never get a conclusion to the saga.
RedlineRonin
Member
What are the odds any of this is dealt with in the bigger "crown" patch that is theoretically due yet before launch day?
Primethius
Banned
Probably unlikely :/
Details are out, the patch isn't addressing it.
I didn't notice the issues when I was playing Judgement demo, so I'm fine with playing it on the Pro.
Hentailover
Member
Hey, since I like FF12, clearly I do not automatically hate JRPG that don't do that, I just like them more if they do do that.
I've not really played any of Suikoden games, maybe two hours of one of them. and probably 3 total hours between multiple Trails games...
It could fall under "Various bug fixes."
RedlineRonin
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Not trying to hate on you, I am just wondering how strongly this matters to you. BTW, here's the incomplete world map of the Suikoden world:
Mostly the games take place in a single country each. Trails games are the same way, though with multiple games in a single country. GREAT games though.
Forgot about Kerwon.
That world is so rife for future content. It's a shame XII never really caught on with the mainstream. Tactics is well-celebrated, but largely confined to diehards.
SlasherJPC
Banned
5 hours into FFXV. Still on chapter 1.Can't comment on story but gameplay wise this might end up my favorite FF game ever. I just really like how it works and how good it looks.
DarkLordMalik
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First to clear some confusions
Sprint stamina can be upgraded on the ascension grid so it refils faster and lasts longer. Sprinting becomes less of a hassle after update.
The crown update improves the camera and also adds kingsglaive and omen trailer cgi scenes. Kingsglaive scenes are used atleast two times and also in flashbacks later, while omen trailer feels like it was simply tacked on and it is essentially an abridged version of the trailer that starts with attack on soldiers on bridge. There is no clear focus on Noctis' face so the transition isn't jarring but the scene plays out
Now i am not saying the current patch is the crown update but improved camera and frame pacing is evident on the base ps4 along with beast whistle and new scenes from movie and omen trailer.
Sprint stamina can be upgraded on the ascension grid so it refils faster and lasts longer. Sprinting becomes less of a hassle after update.
The crown update improves the camera and also adds kingsglaive and omen trailer cgi scenes. Kingsglaive scenes are used atleast two times and also in flashbacks later, while omen trailer feels like it was simply tacked on and it is essentially an abridged version of the trailer that starts with attack on soldiers on bridge. There is no clear focus on Noctis' face so the transition isn't jarring but the scene plays out
in a dream.
Now i am not saying the current patch is the crown update but improved camera and frame pacing is evident on the base ps4 along with beast whistle and new scenes from movie and omen trailer.
Kenzodielocke
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Needs a new thread tbh. so this gets SE full attention. They better fix this shit.
Isn't Vagrant Story supposed to take place somewhere on Ivalice too?
Coolbgdog12
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Yikes, PS4 Pro frame pacing is a slideshow.
The Last One
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Worst and best FF since FF I.
Yeah, I should probably have made a thread. I feel like I've spammed this a few to many places now, so I'm a bit worried about breaking any rules. Maybe someone else could make a thread, or I can do it if Kagari can confirm it's ok? Mostly a lurker, you see
Valendia, but Matsuno didnt intended it to be like that originally and it was just executive meddling. Also like FFT all of these titles are supposed to be happening on very different time periods.
Wait for actual comparison for DF.
Yeah. Vagrant Story is set several hundred years after FFT, which is in turn quite a ways past FFXII/Revenant Wings/FFTA2.
There's a great cataclysm which occurs an undisclosed amount of time past FFXII/RW/TA2, an era I've affectionately dubbed the Golden Age. It seems to have wrecked most other races from existence. It's a really, really bad time. The games which take place post-cataclysm -- earlier games release-wise, but chronologically latter -- feel more medieval, more Middle Ages. It sort of tracks with conventional fantasy world-building. I'd love to explore so much from that world's lore.
I do have Yasumi Matsuno on my Facebook (lol) and I've actually spoken with him a couple of times in the past. Game of Thrones and cats. Those were our subjects. Not even kidding. I'd love to get a hold of him sometime and ask him about any lingering ideas he had re: that world (as well as Ogre Battle's) but our conversations were very short and difficult. He's a cool dude, it's just that translating can be a challenge. He has an appreciable grasp of English, but it's still very elementary.
I should try to befriend Alexander O. Smith someday. <_<;
Interesting. I never knew that.
We already got a Pro game Impressions thread, plus what would that do? Didn't make SE aware of World of FF issues.
I tweeted @ffxven about it since the digital foundry vid so hopefully the devs know people are concerned about framepacing now. Their social media is always listening to feedback.
Hashmal_Bringer_of_Order
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According to the wiki, FFXII mentions Vagrant Stories setting of Valendia as a kingdom subjugated at some point by Ashe's ancestor Raithwall in FFXIIs backstory. Presumably it was somewhere on the Ordalia continent.
Kenzodielocke
Banned
No, I have eyes. No need for DF confirmation here.
That's just straight up garbage.
The Last One
Member
We can choose light mode in the full game? Because if the frame pacing is really that bad I'd rather playing it in light mode.
You can chose, Judgements prompts you to pick between the 2 at the start if I remember correctly.
Hentailover
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Being set in a consistent world over multiple games allows to compensate for that I guess, by slowly revealing it. Direct sequels to FF games so far have all been kinda awful, so I don't expect a FF15-2, so I'd like to see basic overview of the entire world in this game, instead of having this world with other potential continents just get left behind half way through our exploration of it.
The Last One
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Good, I was afraid that we would only have the option to play light mode in the demo.
DarkLordMalik
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Holy shit! WTF
I am actually glad that I played it on base PS4. This is unacceptable =/
Those who have PS4 Pro, I hope the December patch adds in proper support. SE really messed up the Pro version at launch.
Are we sure this is just frame pacing? I thought the lite-mode had better frame pacing than base, only the high-mode had really bad pacing. Maybe it's just this scene that's this bad on Lite?
Not sure if i want to buy a Pro or Slim now... but I want to play on day 1.
NoctisXIII
Banned
That Amazon steelbook special edition is looking great <3
Primethius
Banned
That video doesn't even make sense to me. It's worse then the demo!
I think you're not getting me here.
Realistically modeling a world map on a globe comes with all kinds of issues. Two completely different solutions is to either assume the 'world map' is actually part of an actual world map, or a cartographic abstraction where going off the top edge leads you to the bottom.
You can't realistically model a bunch of continents and expect them to make sense w.r.t each other both as a flat plane (which makes the most sense for a game engine) as well as relatively on a globe. Especially not one attempting a realistic aesthetic, nor in a seamless open-world game.
Unless your exploration music sounds like this *** WARNING SPOILERS IN RELATED VIDS WARNING *** you're not on the Crown Update patch.
The Last One
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That Amazon steelbook special edition is looking great <3
Wow, best edition of the game indeed. I'm jealous.
That music kicks in occasionally for me but I don't have the MP3 player. :|
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If they gave awards for talking past each other, Falk...
SlasherJPC
Banned
Where are these added at, what point I'm the game?
This is amazing! ;___; Both the music and the beautful Duscaen landscape.
Did you play the flute, Falk? XD
theofficefan99
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lolll those patch notes are like "Here's a patch that's going to improve the game by 400%, sorry reviewers and people who got the game early that are spreading impressions already~~~~"
Hentailover
Member
I do get this, it's just completely irrelevant to my point, Falk. I don't need a fully modeled world...
So, this is how the music sounds in the current patch, which was available to people 12 days before the actual release (12 days before November 29):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lGSLJqJ0Zn4
Falk is saying that the Crown Update will have the music sound like this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0AuCmzwH_QI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lGSLJqJ0Zn4
Falk is saying that the Crown Update will have the music sound like this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0AuCmzwH_QI
Primethius
Banned
So there's definitely another patch that's going to go out. That's damn good.
Cause warping out of combat isn't in right now and that's going to be nice to have.
Cause warping out of combat isn't in right now and that's going to be nice to have.
You... want every continent in a game world to be part of the story, but it's not going to be modeled?
You're not the only one. Same with the Pro. I feel like I'm the only one that doesn't have one yet.
I feel like a pleb lol.
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