Pai Pai Master
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I don't see the deal. Pre-transformation Steve was always supposed to look extremely wimpy, even sickly.
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First Look at Chris Evans as Captain America
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Summary Man
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If the Super Soldier Serum (or whatever it's called) can turn a small and skinny man into a strong and fit dude, why doesn't the government start with a strong and fit guy? Then they might get a mini-Hulk or something much more impressive and intimidating.
brandonh83
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Good trailer. I'm not a Johnston fan at all, I mean his last two movies were Jurassic Park 3 and The Wolfman, but I get a really good vibe from this.
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This is betterNesotenso said:
ClosingADoor
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Because a weak man knows the value of strengthSummary Man said:
Looks good, looking forward to this. And Thor. More to Thor actually.
GhaleonQ
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Yeah, the floating head wouldn't work even if they did it better just because (although Evans has, potentially, the face of an innocent weakling) his jaw and neck are noticeably muscular. He should have cut weight before pumping up to look emaciated.
That said, it's totally awesome that he's just a big slab of meat, a la the action start of 1910s-1950s film. It's perfect, and the design fits into the stylized version of the period. I like it a lot.
That said, it's totally awesome that he's just a big slab of meat, a la the action start of 1910s-1950s film. It's perfect, and the design fits into the stylized version of the period. I like it a lot.
triplestation
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Has anyone seen Norton's Incredible Hulk? Tim Roth's character, Blonsky is injected with the SS serum and he doesn't bulk up. But he does become ripped and sweats like a hooker in church. WASSUP WIT DAT??
Spike Spiegel
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Watching this in HD now, and there are definitely a couple of "skinny Steve" shots that could use another pass (at the 0:45 and 1:00 marks, for example). But in other shots, he looks really REALLY believable, like in the alleyway fight or talking with Bucky or in the lineup getting talked to by TLJ. They've still got until June/July to clean up the rough spots, so I think they'll be able to pull it off.Nesotenso said:
Two words: Vita. Rays.
Pai Pai Master
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bangladesh said:
They inject him with the serum but don't perform the entire process that it's only a part of.
Summary Man said:
It won't make you superhuman, it will just take you to the peak of human athletic potential, so everyone that receives the injection would be as strong and fast as Captain America, no matter what they were before.
As for why the serum had a different effect on Tim Roth's character, my understanding is that the technology behind the 'Vita-Rays' chamber was lost after it was used on Steve Rogers.
SerArthurDayne
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I thought this looked pretty awesome, personally. Something about skinny Cap is off though. I think it is just his same voice coming from the body. It doesn't look bad, but it bothers me for some reason. Hype level +1.
Summary Man
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Blader5489 said:
I'm sure there would be tons of willing applicants for such an experiment, even if there was a possibility of death. The draw of becoming superhuman would be a major temptation for many people, and it's not like the military would be devastated to lose a single man, no matter how strong he may be.
Regardless, what I said was only in jest (partly, at least), and it won't stop me from watching (and hopefully enjoying) this movie.And if you saw The Incredible Hulk, you'd see what happens when they give the serum to a military guy:
Purely out of curiosity, but what's the difference between the super soldier serum used for Captain American and for the Abomination? The Abomination was created by injecting liquid, correct? In the comics, is there a difference between the two methods which might explain why one man turns into a monster? And did the Abomination take more than the recommended dose? I honestly can't remember...
But like I said, it's no big deal, just something I thought of.
EDIT: Seems like some of my questions were answered while I slowly typed this post. Haha.
Pai Pai Master
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Gotta have dem vita-rays.
fallengorn
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Still think the costume design is hooey, but the trailer was pretty good.
Raguel said:
I just don't understand GAF at times...
For an example of a great recent trailer, look no further than Star Trek - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ETDE0VGJY4&feature=related
If you want to go a bit older (and even better), ROTK - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iAI7w0vTqBM&hd=1
THESE are great trailers, worthy of watching multiple times. But this one? I just don't understand GAF at times...
Discotheque
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Okay skinny Cap looks ridiculous because they overstated his scrawniness. That mofo looked smaller than some junior high school kids. There's skinny and then there's freakishly small skinny.
Otherwise it looked pretty fun. And surprising indeed, but I'm not getting my hopes up until I see the full film. Johnston is so bad.
This summer's not looking that good, but First Class will probably be the best of the bunch.
Otherwise it looked pretty fun. And surprising indeed, but I'm not getting my hopes up until I see the full film. Johnston is so bad.
This summer's not looking that good, but First Class will probably be the best of the bunch.
Talon- said:
Perhaps. But using my example of Star Trek - I had never watched a second of any Star Trek series nor seen any of the movies, nor did I have any interest in the reboot, until I saw that trailer. To me, that is a great trailer, when the images, editing and music can come together and turn something that you had no interest in seeing into something you can't miss.
Frankly, none of these 4 summer superhero flick trailers have done that for me. GL was underwhelming despite my continued hype for Campbell to deliver, Thor looked terribad, X-men relied far too heavily on the older films, and Cap's trailer just kind exists.
Discotheque
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The music was definitely a huge factor in that Star Trek trailer.
triplestation
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New trailer exceeded lots of expectations, that's for sure. Gives an idea of what's to come and hopefully doesn't give away great sequences.
smokeymicpot
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Will watch. Skinny Evans is gonna be funny to see.
ReturnOfTheRAT
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Jin34 said:
The effect doesn't work in either case.
Littleberu
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Solo said:
Dude, don't try so hard. Just leave the thread and let people enjoy the trailer. Why rain on their parade, anyway?
PhoncipleBone
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Screw the haters. I am so jazzed for this movie. Of course, I have been a Captain America fan for most of my life, so I am somewhat biased.
I like that they seem to be driving home the transformation aspect of it, showing it is his character that makes him a true super solider, not just the serum.
I got just a tease of what I am really wanting, which is Cap beating Nazi ass. Now I want more.
I like that they seem to be driving home the transformation aspect of it, showing it is his character that makes him a true super solider, not just the serum.
I got just a tease of what I am really wanting, which is Cap beating Nazi ass. Now I want more.
Pristine_Condition
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This looks like an enjoyable super hero movie.
I'm glad.
I'm glad.
Rentahamster
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If the process worked so well on Cap, why didn't the military make like a thousand more Super Soldiers? Or did they?
Spike Spiegel
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Possible movie spoilers, definite comic spoilers:Rentahamster said:
Dr. Erskine, the scientist responsible for inventing the Super Soldier serum and creation process, is gunned down by a Nazi spy shortly after Rogers is transformed and the laboratory is partly destroyed in the ensuing chaos. Since Erskine didn't trust his government handlers fully, he kept parts of the process to himself and never committed them to paper, making Rogers the program's first and only successful result. Other scientists would try for decades to recreate the process with limited success, and a government program dedicated to recreating the Super Soldier would ultimately yield (among others) Weapon X aka Wolverine.
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