dragonflys545
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LOL at that comparison.
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First Ryse Review
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LOL at that comparison.
Thatonemoor
Member
I've never really understood the outrage over micro-transactions. I mean you don't have to pay for it but you have the opinion to pay for it to unlock all the powers. Is it money grubbing? Yes. But it doesn't get my enraged like some of your guys. I'm playing to just play the game and ignore that part of it.
The only reason they do it is because enough people buy it to make it worthwhile. I don't really care in single player games - it just sucks when they let it affect multiplayer.
funniest thing about QTEs and God of War is that its the only game where they are really well implemented..... but man Ryse's combat looks so choppy compared to even Japanese action games
Fine, I'll post it again. Sterling addresses your very opinion, directly.
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/jimquisition/7811-Fee-to-Pay
Killing_Joke
Member
Buying upgrades for a 5 hour game is very very sad. I know microtransactions aren't going anywhere but really? Did no one learn anything from dead space 3?
He's been doing pre-emptive review damage control all week. I don't think this will change much.
This fucking game has microtransactions, a season pass, and costs $60.
Because microtransactions do not exist on a vacuum. They fundamentally affect game design.
Because microtransactions do not exist on a vacuum. They fundamentally affect game design.
opticalmace
Member
What other launch games have microtransactions?
ChosenPredator
Banned
actually he's had some family issues and the ryse dev team did something badass for him doubt he cares about any reviews at the moment
Vire
Member
Forza 5, Killer Instinct.
Dunno if others are doing it, but kind of an unsettling precedent by Microsoft Studio games.
The fuck...that guy has awful opinions. Perhaps even worse than Gies lol. Jk...nobody can top Gies for awful opinions except maybe Kuchera.
razgriz417
Member
Forza and crimson dragon. Bf4 multi does too I think
Because why...?
Forza?
CassidyIzABeast
Member
Yeah even when everybody was raging over it being in Dead Space 3 it never bothered me because they gave you so much ammo and weapon parts that it was non-factor. Its only an issue if you can purchase your way to better weapons in a competitive multiplayer game.
Forza 5, Killer Instinct, and Crimson Dragon, AFAIK.
Crimson Dragon as well.
Did he just break the NDA early?
LiquidSolid
Member
I wouldn't say it's the only game (RE4 did them pretty well and Quantic Dream's stuff is pretty good if you're into their games) but yeah. I've no doubt Microsoft really wanted Ryse to be their God of War but there was absolutely no chance of that happening from the moment they got Crytek to make it.
Dictator93
Member
´Maybe this game bombing in tjhe reviews will force crytek to consider different priorities in game design. One can hope.
You dont need reviews to tell you this game looks like shit. (not graphically obviously)
ChiliManiac
Banned
Looks like Adams review just justified my purchase in Forza 5 and Dead Rising 3 lol
They're probably making too much money off of military contracts to give a shit.
He's actually been killing it for the past few weeks. He has kept the pseudo-intellectualism to a minimum and done a good job with consumer advocacy and honesty.
iirc, Polygon technically has an editorial panel that filters their reviews.
They make their money elsewhere. Crytek is a profoundly untalented studio outside of tech engines. They don't make good games and they never really have. I don't know why people are so late to this conclusion.
Thatonemoor
Member
Not if you don't buy them.
Can't watch the video the other guy posted cause I am in a library and I don't have head phones. Can someone give me a short write up by any chance?
razgriz417
Member
The issues comes into play when game design (like difficulty and grind time) get affected by these micro transactions
Chobel
Member
It appears to be some bug is his website. The direct link to the review says the review isn't ready yet.
Oh you!
Mermandala
Member
they served him a dinner on the house?
Thatonemoor
Member
Than if they aren't popular than they won't make their games around this idea. Just don't by the micro transactions in the games than the developers won't make their games around them.
You can't respect him for having a different opinion from you on two games? The hell?
Again, they directly affect the game design a priori.
In order to induce and accomodate a real-money economy, by definition the basic product is changed and/or gimped. It's basic economics of price discrimination.
toddhunter
Member
The xbox one was going to be an always online console which is basically just to make microtransactions available and enforceable (can't change the clock forward, easy to buy etc). You can only expect that launch games would still be designed around that fact.
Hopefully that gets cut out now.
I see. Well I wish him all the best. Do you know what Crytek sorted out for him at all?
ArkkAngel007
Member
Forza 5 is the other major title that does afaik.
However, I don't take issue with microtransactions that don't negatively impact game design. Dead Space 3 was benign outside of having to be connected to EA servers for redeemed ration goodies to save.
And it sounds like there are two opinions on Forza right now in the media. On one hand, Eurogamer (correct?) found the number of content tied to the credit/microtransaction system combined with the high credit requirements for some/many of the content to be detrimental to their experience. On the other hand, Sessler, who I note is not identifiable with the racing genre generally, found that he was having enough fun with the game/races to not find it a detriment. Then again, he may not have went as far as other outlets to unlock content due to having other business to attend to as well as playing more for fun than completion likely enough.
However, that's two, if not only one, example of that being the case. The rest of the models I've personally seen out there are not well supported in the primary game design, whether in the withholding of the content or through the earned in-game option. Ryse looks to be one where not only is it completely unnecessary with its inclusion, but the game itself wouldn't inspire anyone to go through the effort of the natural method.
With that said though, I would never advocate buying the microtransactions. Games that aren't harmed are ok, but once you buy in (as some did in Mass Effect Lottery), you become a part of the problem.
razgriz417
Member
Right but we still have to suffer through potentially great games now that are potentially overtuned to try to push ppl to spend more money in the mean time. You're right that if people don't buy them, they may drop them from future games but I don't have faith in the general public
Man what happened to Far Cry and Crysis Crytek...those games were revolutionary in both tech and gameplay
wapplew
Member
Dude, you don't know what micro-transactions's damage to game design.
It might not impact much now, when player pay for it, publisher get those money and start design games around it, please ready for lots of grind work and repetitive.
I work for a small F2P mmo publisher, I know every little detail about how publisher try everything to rip of their loyal costumer.
Everything start with "How do we make them pay more".
XANDER CAGE
Member
"It's so enraptured with it's own opinion and epiphany it comes across as if it were written by a twelve-year-old."
As much as I love the Sess, this could describe some of his recent reviews.
That being said, this is a great video review. Much more concise and engaging than some of his recent stuff. His point about it feeling like a game from a few generations ago is spot-on - in its best moments, Ryse looks sort of like the Two Towers or Return of the King games on the PS2/Xbox/GC. While I love those games, I'm not sure how I'd feel about playing that template in a new game today.
Chobel
Member
Surface of Me
I'm not an NPC. And neither are we.
Rethinking my purchase here, was originally going to get Watch Dogs, but switched to this when that got delayed. Might get AC:BF or DR3 instead depending on reviews. 5 hours does not sound worth it.
Edit: Maybe Lego Marvel, isn't that back at launch?
Edit: Maybe Lego Marvel, isn't that back at launch?
Ha, yeah, I winced. That's why I said minimum .