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Game Informer thread is up here since it may be requested the OP contents of this thread get taken down: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=519261
symphonask
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I like this.
Yeah love that screen. I don't think fidelity like that would be possible on current consoles. I'm impressed.
Agent_4Seven
Tears of Nintendo
Finally! My prayers were heard ^_^
The Game Informer article just posted.
yeah exactly, though I could have sworn it was a golden colour.
Chairman Yang
if he talks about books, you better damn well listen
If this looked like a high-res PS2 game, I'd still be interested. As it is, I have zero complaints about the technical quality of the graphics so far. The graphical mood and atmosphere are going to be critically important, but that's fairly disconnected from what's under the hood (and it's why I have no trouble being affected by Thief 1/2, despite how primitive they are technologically).
That said, I'm very curious about the direction the devs will go in. I loved Dishonored, but for different reasons than the Thief games--the posters saying it was a power fantasy are right. It's not necessarily a bad thing, and the developers explicitly stated that as a goal of the game, but I'd prefer a different angle for Thief.
Some of the things I'm hoping for:
* Combat as weak and ineffectual as in the previous Thief games. It should be a last resort thing.
* An expanded thieving toolset. I liked the flexibility of things like rope arrows; hopefully the devs will continue in that direction and have levels that are designed to be challenging despite the player having better mobility.
* Giant levels. An open world would be okay, too, but not ideal.
* A story that's relatively sparse, but not too sparse.
* Better AI. DX:HR's was decent; hopefully the devs can keep progressing here.
Basically, I want a traditional Thief game with obvious next-gen improvements. Innovation would be nice, but I'm happy to wait until Thief 5 for that.
That said, I'm very curious about the direction the devs will go in. I loved Dishonored, but for different reasons than the Thief games--the posters saying it was a power fantasy are right. It's not necessarily a bad thing, and the developers explicitly stated that as a goal of the game, but I'd prefer a different angle for Thief.
Some of the things I'm hoping for:
* Combat as weak and ineffectual as in the previous Thief games. It should be a last resort thing.
* An expanded thieving toolset. I liked the flexibility of things like rope arrows; hopefully the devs will continue in that direction and have levels that are designed to be challenging despite the player having better mobility.
* Giant levels. An open world would be okay, too, but not ideal.
* A story that's relatively sparse, but not too sparse.
* Better AI. DX:HR's was decent; hopefully the devs can keep progressing here.
Basically, I want a traditional Thief game with obvious next-gen improvements. Innovation would be nice, but I'm happy to wait until Thief 5 for that.
Remachinate
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I'd like the stealth mechanics to be derivative, not the plot.
Cramoss
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Fix the link brah
Alexios
Cores, shaders and BIOS oh my!
This is next gen?! The original games look pretty close to this if only you apply some minor mods (bloom and some textures and models for consistency more than prettifying)! I took a few screenshots to demonstrate this factual fact. Peeking around walls, readying an arrow, and engaging in a sword fight to show an enemy up close and personal.
The first three are from Thief Gold, the next pair from Thief II.
Just kidding but these games are so awesome still, the level design and gameplay within can be awe inspiring.
Sadly I didn't keep a save to the previous awesome levels I was in, these are kind of bleh in comparison so far.
Also, Thief and Thief II looked ugly even when they were first released. The rest is what makes them hold up well.
The first three are from Thief Gold, the next pair from Thief II.
Just kidding but these games are so awesome still, the level design and gameplay within can be awe inspiring.
Sadly I didn't keep a save to the previous awesome levels I was in, these are kind of bleh in comparison so far.
Also, Thief and Thief II looked ugly even when they were first released. The rest is what makes them hold up well.
BigTnaples
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Are people really hating on people that want good graphics?
Especially from a game where atmosphere and tension are paramount?
I expect this game to have fantastic lighting, wide open level design, and minimal to no loading.
There is nothing wrong with those expectations for a next gen game, and they directly effect the experience in a significant way.
Especially from a game where atmosphere and tension are paramount?
I expect this game to have fantastic lighting, wide open level design, and minimal to no loading.
There is nothing wrong with those expectations for a next gen game, and they directly effect the experience in a significant way.
Meccanical
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Well if you would go in the Game Informer thread you would know that it is coming to PC.
>_>
Couldn't agree more. Deadly Shadows had horribly cramped levels.
I want levels the size of "The Bonehoard" again. I have a dream....
Cramoss
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I don't see any reasons why it wouldn't come out on PC.
I'm picturing a huge "party" sized level from thief 2 redone in 4, and I salivate. That would be incredible.
The mechanists were pretty advanced, so I don't see it as a problem - at least it doesn't have a scope... I would have preferred the bow from the original of course. Who knows, maybe there are upgrades...
GameInformer confirmed PS4 and PC, but they also mentioned it will come on "other next-gen platforms sometime in 2014."
http://www.gameinformer.com/b/news/archive/2013/03/05/april-cover-revealed-thief.aspx
http://www.gameinformer.com/b/news/archive/2013/03/05/april-cover-revealed-thief.aspx
Huge Thief fan here, always down for more. Garrett, at the worst, would be my second favourite game character of all-time. "Life of the Party", for my money, is the best level in any video game, ever.
Pretty excited for this, I can see this going much the same way as Deus Ex in a "Classic game(s) > Subpar game > Triumphant return into a new current series" vein. I've got some nits to pick, don't like the title at all for one, but I'm going to ignore all that and move Thief to the tippy-top of my wanted list.
Pretty excited for this, I can see this going much the same way as Deus Ex in a "Classic game(s) > Subpar game > Triumphant return into a new current series" vein. I've got some nits to pick, don't like the title at all for one, but I'm going to ignore all that and move Thief to the tippy-top of my wanted list.
Perfect comment. This exactly.
Looks great graphically and stylistically. I liked Thief 3, but the environments were just too cramped. With this new generation hopefully we can have the polish and the expansiveness for a really great Thief game. If they can fix Deus Ex, why not Thief?
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Meccanical
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All press released screenshots get touched up in one way or another.
There is, but I think the whole image has gone through some kind of Sharpening filter as it looks pretty rank.
I liked it too, in general. They had the right idea with the "open world" City. But I think they were contrained by technology (or manpower), and "The City (tm)" ended up as "The Very Small Town" with only 4 houses to loot.
responses on the first page shows that we've officialy entered the era of diminished returns. Current gen consoles would render 1/4 of every screen provided here (at 1024*768 resolition). There is tesselation, crisp shadows, advanced lighting, high res textures.
But this indifference to new shiny graphics bodes well for indie teams, so yay!
But this indifference to new shiny graphics bodes well for indie teams, so yay!
Pretty sure Thi4f is confirmed to use a kitted out Unreal 3.
All right, after some chatting up in the mod room, we're locking since it seems to only be coming from this site unlike the Witcher 3 pan-internet hosting.
New thread: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=519261
New thread: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=519261
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