BigLee74
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Do you make these shitty videos? If not, can you tell me who does so I can go round to his house and bang his coupon for such shit taste in music.
Thanks.
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Forza Motorsport (XSX) vs Gran Turismo 7 (PS5) Graphics Comparison (Up: Video in OP replaced as IGN one was not fit for purpose)
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Do you make these shitty videos? If not, can you tell me who does so I can go round to his house and bang his coupon for such shit taste in music.
Thanks.
nosoynadie22
Member
I didn't do anything, Hiromi Wu is the owner of the channel. Gran Turismo fanboy, Forza hater
LostDonkey
Member
Bang
His
Coupon
His
Coupon
it aint valid cause he doesnt know what he is talking about, a good youtuber understands what they talk about, he does horrible comparisons, completely wrong assumptions etc
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sendit
Member
Agreed. You provided a perfect example of when you're on the butt end of a losing argument "it's all opinions anyway"
Horseganador
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Bunta_Fujiwara
Member
The LFA looks and sounds so much better on GT7. Also the track looks more detailed on GT
Unknown?
Member
They both look great but yeah GT7 has better details for sure in this comparison.
Also first time I'm seeing the windshield reflections in Forza. Seeing the hands reflect looks horrible, that's not realistic at all.
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SenkiDala
Member
To me Forza looks more "real" moves more "real", it is a matter of opinion at this point.
Bunta_Fujiwara
Member
He is clearly palying on a controller with probably max sensivity on GT (you can see that by sudden movements of ther when he is turning).
With the wheel looks much more natural
//DEVIL//
Member
I am sorry but did you just call GoT main theme song shitty taste in music ? gtfo and never comeback ever again -_-
JackMcGunns
Member
It's using screen space reflections for the rain/ground, the same as GT7. What it's doing different is using ray traced reflections for the cars, so you will see accurate reflections of other vehicles as they pass by. What it's NOT doing is ray traced global illumination.
Still doing more than GT7 and it shows in that video I posted, which makes the games look a generation apart.
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Unknown?
Member
A generation apart. Holy crap, dude!!
JackMcGunns
Member
Not my quote, but people responding to it. Of course the entire game doesn't look a gen apart, but when you look at that video, there are parts that jump out at you, especially the first half. Pretty drastic difference if you ask me
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Snake29
RSI Employee of the Year
That video is the most lazy video posted, and all others are getting ignored because in the rest of the videos, GT7 wipes the floor in more areas with Forza.
Also GT7 doesn’t look like that at all. Im not sure what they’ve done with the colours? Second: a lot of comparisons also use the PS4 version instead of the PS5 version.
Also GT7 doesn’t look like that at all. Im not sure what they’ve done with the colours? Second: a lot of comparisons also use the PS4 version instead of the PS5 version.
Still haven't changed your avatar after losing the September NPD bet I see.Not my quote, but people responding to it. Of course the entire game doesn't look a gen apart, but when you look at that video, there are parts that jump out at you, especially the first half. Pretty drastic difference if you ask me
JackMcGunns
Member
I mean, photo mode? why even point that out lol. Forza is using planar reflections too apparently, those are typically used on flat surfances, nothign ground breaking. What IS ground breaking is the use of RTAO (Ray traced ambient occlusion) and ray traced reflections off vehicles, cool when one passes by.
Here's a link showing all reflection modes for Forza:
JackMcGunns
Member
Still waiting to be told what I'm supposed to be changing it to, I asked twice in that thread. Sounds like you have something personal going there, why do you care? What does this have to do with Forza vs GT7?
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nosoynadie22
Member
Can anyone verify that this really happens at maximum settings?
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Emet_bp
Member
What are you talking about? GT7 uses planar reflections during gameplay, RT reflections on cars in replays + planar reflections on the ground and RT everywhere in photo mode (+ RTAO)
FM uses RTAO + simple RT reflections on cars and cheap screen space reflections in hood cam and on the ground.
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JackMcGunns
Member
In replay and photo mode are NOT real-time.
Also, you're wrong about Forza not using Planar reflections, see the link I posted.
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JackMcGunns
Member
Says the guy pointing out RTAO and RT reflections in replay mode and photo mode which have nothing to do with in-game racing. Why bother pointing that out?
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sendit
Member
Nothing other than possibly why you're here spreading misinformation again.Sounds like you have something personal going there, why do you care? What does this have to do with Forza vs GT7?
JackMcGunns
Member
This is misinformation?
https://support.forzamotorsport.net...orza-Motorsport-Xbox-Series-X-S-Render-Modes-
Explain. I'll wait. PS. Good pivot on your off-topic attack.
https://support.forzamotorsport.net...orza-Motorsport-Xbox-Series-X-S-Render-Modes-
Explain. I'll wait. PS. Good pivot on your off-topic attack.
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What are you posting there or proving? The misinformation is the nonsense you're spouting about what's SSR and what's "real time".
Shake Your Rump
Member
Probably a combination of Forza having a better chase cam, and whoever playing on GT7 using a controller instead of a wheel. The way they move the car there reminds me of using the d-pad in GT1 on the PS1.
alucard0712_rus
Gold Member
I found absolutely great thing about FM's graphics - and It's volumetric fog. You can actually see a volumes of air, especially at night which makes whole picture look more '3D' and all the lights are interacting with it beautifully.
GT7 supposed to use this too but it isn't - fog used in GT7 is very flat or not used at all in almost any case giving a very stirile picture. Glad if I'm wrong.
GT7 supposed to use this too but it isn't - fog used in GT7 is very flat or not used at all in almost any case giving a very stirile picture. Glad if I'm wrong.
BigLee74
Member
I can’t comment for GT7 having never played it, but after a few weeks with Forza I can safely say gameplay gfx highs are very high, but its much more frequent lows can be plain (offering little in the way of visual improvements over previous iterations). I guess this is just the nature of the beast with dynamic time of day and weather, and all the baggage that comes with that.
Its photomode is just a constant source of disappointment (although thankfully this isnt what you play).
With regards to the actual racing - it feels exceptional on a controller. Of that I have no doubt.
Its photomode is just a constant source of disappointment (although thankfully this isnt what you play).
With regards to the actual racing - it feels exceptional on a controller. Of that I have no doubt.
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nosoynadie22
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U n i o n 0015
Member
It feels like the base materials in Forza are alright but something is jacked up with the lighting.
And I can't stand the half light/half shadow of the new FM8 garage. Forza 4 had multiple homescapes and we're back to friggen one 12 years later.
SkyHighTrees
Member
In this video comparison, Forza looks so much worse. The guy is playing on PC, and he was previously really critical of GT7's physics before the overhaul, plus a good sim head. If he's saying all this about Forza - I'm not in a hurry to get a new XSX...
Elysium44
Banned
Is this true?
www.gtplanet.net
Graphics and resolution have been downgraded on Series X
I'm surprised no one has noticed this yet. The visuals and resolution have been massively downgraded with the latest update. Especially in performance RT mode. Its a blurry mess and reflection are running at a much lower resolution. Is this a bug or is this Turns 10 attempt at fixing any...
www.gtplanet.net
I didn’t saw anything weird on series X.Is this true?
Graphics and resolution have been downgraded on Series X
I'm surprised no one has noticed this yet. The visuals and resolution have been massively downgraded with the latest update. Especially in performance RT mode. Its a blurry mess and reflection are running at a much lower resolution. Is this a bug or is this Turns 10 attempt at fixing any...
analog_future
Resident Crybaby
Is this true?
Graphics and resolution have been downgraded on Series X
I'm surprised no one has noticed this yet. The visuals and resolution have been massively downgraded with the latest update. Especially in performance RT mode. Its a blurry mess and reflection are running at a much lower resolution. Is this a bug or is this Turns 10 attempt at fixing any...
Why are you sharing a single post with no comments from a single random anonymous user on a different forum here?
For fucks sake
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The Fartist
Gold Member
Even if I agreed with you, the sound would throw me off, the LFA in FM7 sounds nothing like the real one, Polyphony nailed it.
//DEVIL//
Member
Not to mention the fire from the exhaust makes it feel like I am playing need for speed and keep on pushing the nitro button....
He is asking if anybody has verified if this is the case after the update. It's not like it was posted as news on a new thread. I think you need to settle down.
transformer
Member
No. It seems mostly the same to me. I think they are just noticing the variable resolution in that graphics mode to keep frame rate at 60fps. If anything, the graphics improved a bit due to fixing some of the lod and shader issues. But it’s mostly the same unless you scrutinize in photo mode.Is this true?
Graphics and resolution have been downgraded on Series X
I'm surprised no one has noticed this yet. The visuals and resolution have been massively downgraded with the latest update. Especially in performance RT mode. Its a blurry mess and reflection are running at a much lower resolution. Is this a bug or is this Turns 10 attempt at fixing any...
nosoynadie22
Member
PS5 VS SERIES X
TrebleShot
Member
Sadly FM is still an unoptimised mess on high end PC , stutters like mad and has the most bizarre graphics menu you’ll see.
Utter shambles.
Utter shambles.
analog_future
Resident Crybaby
What? I have a high end PC and it's smooth as butter. All settings maxed out @ 4k
TrebleShot
Member
SimTourist
Member
Somehow he managed to make both games look like shit. Good job.
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