Senua
Member
It's not even close as expected. GT7s modelling and materials are just so good.
That video sucks though, random real life shots of the wrong car (evo 1 not 2) and doug fucking demuro lmao.
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Forza Motorsport (XSX) vs Gran Turismo 7 (PS5) Graphics Comparison (Up: Video in OP replaced as IGN one was not fit for purpose)
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It's not even close as expected. GT7s modelling and materials are just so good.
That video sucks though, random real life shots of the wrong car (evo 1 not 2) and doug fucking demuro lmao.
JackMcGunns
Member
Fucking hell what an embarassment
Generation apart.
"A generation apart" is what most are saying after looking at this comparison "In motion" not just photomode stills.
Negotiator101
Member
Ignoring the graphics, my god the difference in the physics between the two is significant, GT7 the car just floats on the track where's FM the car reacts to all the undulations of the track, very impressive.
chilichote
Member
Have we already had that?^^
Unknown?
Member
Ah the cars just float on the track and don't react at all, huh? That's new.
Senua
Member
Forza's chase cam has camera shake and it pans up/down and in/out for immersion. GTs chase cam is stiff as a board (to a fault imo). That's why you're seeing such a difference in motion.
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Snake29
RSI Employee of the Year
Im not sure why this video is still being used? This is not how GT7 even looks on the PS5. GT7 looks way better in general then Forza and the new update alone shits on Forza pretty hard.
Forza is a joke without haptics.
nosoynadie22
Member
nosoynadie22
Member
Snake29
RSI Employee of the Year
Makes me wonder. Polyphony has these high res models already in-house for like a PS5 Pro update. The car models are just a gen ahead in GT7 it's just not funny anymore. Even environments in Forza aren't always looking better at all.
I purchased both the Porsche and Model 3 yesterday. It's cool to see that the Tesla screen is also working when on reverse, indicators and the navigation.
SimTourist
Member
Turn10 and PD are both set with the model quality they targeted during Xbox One/PS4 generation, they will never remake the models from scratch again. So the ghost of 1.3 Tflops Xbox One still haunts Turn10 to this day.
Senua
Member
It's not about the tflops. PD we're forward thinking with their LOD0 models with GT sport onwards, they STILL can't be used during gameplay. Forza uses it's best models in gameplay but their best isn't even as good as GTs lower LOD models.
PD Future proofed their models, T10 didn't and now they look outdated as fuck.
SimTourist
Member
Well to be fair Turn10 made a lot more of these models if you count all the cars across all Xbox One era games.
SEGAvangelist
Member
I can't get over the ice skating thing myself. It looks better in the cockpit view for sure. I'll never like GT controls, though. I've played Forza for so long that GT just feels wrong when I play it. I'm sure the opposite is true for people who have played GT for a long time as well.
Unknown?
Member
I love that detail in GT.
Negotiator101
Member
Replay vs gameplay, just watch the video it's as plain as the nose on your face.
Negotiator101
Member
Disagree that's not what's happening, FM has a better tyre physics simulation that's what's happening.
Negotiator101
Member
Watch the video buddy before coming in with a useless comment.
The new Forza is just an embarrassment at this point.
Six years, built from the ground up etc. As much as I believed all of that shit and patiently edited, I currently couldn't care less even if the whole Forza franchise was scrapped and thrown in the bin.
My advice is that if you want a decent console racing SIM buy a PS5.
Six years, built from the ground up etc. As much as I believed all of that shit and patiently edited, I currently couldn't care less even if the whole Forza franchise was scrapped and thrown in the bin.
My advice is that if you want a decent console racing SIM buy a PS5.
Mr Moose
Member
People should really stop using that guys videos.
Negotiator101
Member
Since a certain poster uses YouTube creators as a indicator of realism, I'll put this here
FalconPunch
Member
Wrong. Forza has rubbish tire physics and next time spell tire properly.
Mr Moose
Member
Since a certain poster uses YouTube creators as a indicator of realism, I'll put this here
Back going out at 2mph. Realistic as fuck.
Negotiator101
Member
Are you a simpleton? that's how tyre is spelt in my country, also don't try to be a smart ass ok pal?
FalconPunch
Member
Senua
Member
You seem very sure about it, I'd need more proof than that, especially considering how much more fluid the Forza Chase cam is in general
Unknown?
Member
Nah it was just a bad take, own it.
t_wilson01
Member
Since a certain poster uses YouTube creators as a indicator of realism, I'll put this here
The Toyota Supra in Gran Turismo games has always been notorious for oversteering. Surely he's not using the stock tires the car comes with, and what's that rear wing meant to do? I'm sure it will increase down force and grip on the rear tires.
Besides, using oversteer as the basis to show which game has more realistic handling/physics makes no sense. It's just a ridiculous comparison.
nosoynadie22
Member
It is the same during gameplay, the position of the camera is what makes the difference
Negotiator101
Member
Well we know the tyre has 8 points of contact in FM but I don't think there is any information on GT7, I'm just watching the video and I see a clear advantage.
GHG
Member
What is happening then?
I'd like to know what effect you think the undulations have on the tire physics and what it is you think you're seeing.
Negotiator101
Member
GHG
Member
You've proved yourself incapable of having your own opinion, I've no interest in going down the same route with you, so have a good day
Great, so you're just confirming you have no idea what you're talking about and you're just throwing words out there for the sake of it.
Look how much float that fucking boat of a car, doesn't even undulate on the undulations.
Ty for shutting down the mouth of certains users, much appreciated.
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LokusAbriss
Member
In GT7 you can not even set tyre pressure, something everybody adjust on a real track, from amateur to professional racing team. One of the most important settings for racing. They either dont want to give the player that choice or they have a problem in their engine.
Another problem is the feel of the cars. Everything drives on rails.
Forza always felt more natural behind the wheel. And was always a better transition between real driving and on a simulator.
But that doesnt mean that Forza has the better physics.
Another problem is the feel of the cars. Everything drives on rails.
Forza always felt more natural behind the wheel. And was always a better transition between real driving and on a simulator.
But that doesnt mean that Forza has the better physics.
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Tomeru
Member
Shutting ehat now? Those camera effects really play with your mind....
This YouTuber is dumb af, do t watch his channel...
SEGAvangelist
Member
He does mention the static camera for GT in the video, but yeah. This is a dumb video for sure. Cockpit view would obviously be a better comparison.
Jigsaah
Gold Member
wow...this thread still going. I just now watched the video. From the cockpit view I thought Forza looked better, but when they went ot a 3rd person view GT7's colors pop much more. Forza had more going on in the background and environment, but the colors seems muted. I don't know if this is on purpose or something that is a side effect of raytracing. GT7 has a much cleaner look, although it's missing a lot of the background flare and atmosphere. I'd like to see different weather patterns in both games as I don't think this single video would tell the whole story.
Since we have this video alone though, if I were to choose....I think GT7 has it by a bit, though I prefer the audio of Forza.
Since we have this video alone though, if I were to choose....I think GT7 has it by a bit, though I prefer the audio of Forza.
Since a certain poster uses YouTube creators as a indicator of realism, I'll put this here
Stop sharing this idiot channel jesus
Negotiator101
Member
In all fairness he's talking about the handling of this particular car and how it compares to the real thing, the camera angle is irrelevant as the handling is the same regardless. I'm sure he's played using the cockpit view anyway.
Negotiator101
Member
Mate it was posted once and his opinion is as valid as yours or anyone's for that matter.
nosoynadie22
Member
In this video you can better appreciate the physics of Gran Turismo.
The GT camera is static and remains aligned with the car at all times, and at that height you often can't even see the wheels.
sendit
Member
Review the comments on that video you posted. With that said, it does fit your agenda without any context.
Negotiator101
Member
That's a bit better but again very basic in comparison to FM. I think now it's clear a lot of the dev time went into the new physics engine. Playing Forza 7 for instance there is a big difference, Forza 7 was behind Gran Turismo but this new Forza has leaped in front IMO.
TheNewGuyAtWork
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nosoynadie22
Member
I don't think one has better physics than the other, Forza simply has a camera closer to the ground and with more movement than Gran Turismo.
Negotiator101
Member
Play both that's the only way to actually tell, it's all opinions anyway.
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