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"Gamingbolt: Xbox One sales at 26 million"
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bitbydeath
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That power will be used on making games native or closer to native 4K games.
Sanpei
Member
and IQ for 1080p tvs...like ps4 pro
bitbydeath
Member
Yep, end of the day it'll be like a PC game on low/medium vs high settings output, it won't change the game dramatically just improve what is already there.
Electret
Member
At the very least it's going to be years. PS4 and XB1S will have very substantial price differences from their successors for the entirety of that period of time (e.g., until they are phased out).
Note: Pro did 15% of total PS4 sales in December. Though it's a very price-conscious month, we should expect a similar ratio moving forward. Further, I don't see why we should expect a significantly different split for Scorpio. It's also marketed as an iterative upgrade to a smaller user base, among which a significant portion of otherwise upgrading users to Scorpio may have been siphoned off by upgrading to the S model within the last few months.
DriftingSpirit
Member
It's selling better than Sony's expectations (even mine, I had guessed 10%).
It's a niche product.
People need to let that sink in and set themselves up for realistic sales expectations for XB1 Scorpio.
DriftingSpirit
Member
Source?
I don't remember where I first saw it, but a quick Google search gave me this:
http://www.pushsquare.com/news/2016/09/sony_pleasantly_surprised_by_strong_ps4_pro_pre-orders
The Artisan
Member
doesn't it also matter how they market the damn thing.
Not enough to make a difference.
FinaruDensetsu
Member
Yup they got way too cocky after that.
The strange thing I could never understand was why MS got the same way after the 360 despite selling the least consoles in that generation.
MisterR
Member
Yes. They are both niche products. When the Scorpio rolls around you'll most likely be able to get a PS4 or One S for around $200 during the Christmas season. They will continue to drive the vast majority of sales.
Theonik
Member
At the very least marketing and shipments seem very modest for the device as well as early comments from Sony appear to indicate expectations were quite low and the device is doing pretty well in comparison.
Louis Cyphre
Banned
To be fair XB1 Scorpio will feel like a substancial upgrade over the regular XB1 unlike the PS4 Pro to that of the regular PS4. I also think Scorpio will have a lot more games ready that gamers can see a difference in right away. Pricing will be key though.
Theonik
Member
You are making a lot of key assumptions in your post you need to consider. People don't game in a vacuum they are exposed to PS4 games and for almost a whole year to PS4 Pro games they won't compare it to Xbox One. The ones that do already own an Xbox One so are pretty much irrelevant here for Microsoft's end goal which is growing the W10 gaming audience NOT getting X1 owners to upgrade. To do that they need to not only get new players that will be looking at the PS4 as well when buying but also get traction with PS4 and PS4 Pro owners which is a lot harder to do due to how invested people already are in this platform. This isn't a wipe of the existing slate with what we have seen. It needs to feel like a big update vs Sony's offerings. MS isn't competing with themselves.
There is a LOT for MS to land if they want to impress.
Louis Cyphre
Banned
I doubt Scorpio is aimed at attracting PS4 Pro owners. There are lots of potential customers out there who don't have anything yet. We've also witnessed some spikes in sales with the Xbox One S. I don't know where you are coming from to suggest those that already own an Xbox One are irrelevant as I'm sure some of them traded up just like PS4 owners traded up to the Pro.
Bitch Pudding
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It is. But actually we already know the basic message: "Fastest console on the planet!, play the best lineup in XBOX history!, 4k Blu-Ray playback!". Not even joking right now.
What we do not know is the price, but I asume no one thinks it will be cheaper than $399.
If they stick to sharing the games library with XBOX One S - which they will - then we basically know all we have to judge how Scorpio is going to sell - compared to a $249 XBOX One S, that is.
Probably because they did what was thought to be inconceivable at the time and really bring the hurt to Sony last gen.
But yeah, considering how complacent they got this gen and the colossal fuck ups they made, you'd think they had a monopoly in the industry last gen.