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Gateway 3DS: First working 3DS flashcart? [Still region locked]
- Thread starter Mitama
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In this case the grey area is almost non-existant. No region free, only one game per SD card, and most 3DS games are available digital.
Can't even run homebrew in this so yeah.
So at this point it's basically a piracy chip? There's no homebrew, it's one microSD per card so no one can say that they just want to store all of their games on one chip, and it isn't region-free. Tasteless. If there are others (and there are always copy-cats once the first one comes out) hopefully they'll find a way to at least make the thing less of a piracy platform by adding some utilities like homebrew and region free capabilities. They can't ban the sale of the chip outright so that's the best I'll hope for. That and that it will be blocked.
Sadly yes - it's completely worthless for anything else.
Not from this approach - they are basically emulating a legit game 1:1 - the system itself remains completely uncompromised.
Yup at least they are "investigating" the possibility. The moment there is a region free hack, I'm going to import one of the many awesome LE 3DS XLs from Japan. I hate all the variations in the US.
Immaculate
Banned
$80 and no region lock fix and one game per SD card? fuck that
xxbrothawizxx63
Member
Wait what? $80 dollars for what exactly?
- 1 microSD card per game
- no region unlock
- currently saves are erased evertime you load up a new game/rom
- $80 is nowhere near how cheap R4 prices were
- A vague don't update the firmware recommendation, IMO that means Nintendo probably can block it, or at the very least embed the new firmware into every new game/rom, so if that happens you might be stuck playing only old games/roms.
- no homebrew
yeah, imo it's crap.
To play one ROM of the same region at a time and lose your save every time you change ROMs.
Although I can understand the point of view of those who wish to use this to dump their own legitimate copies of games for ease of use, I really hope that Nintendo are able to block this.
Not only is this bad for the 3DS but it may also potentially affect future handheld devices. We are already seeing Tablet/Phone games taking a huge chunk of the market away from Nintendo and Sony and a set back such as this won't help as Dev's may end up giving up dedicated handheld devices altogether.
I know that piracy is quite rampant on the mobile platforms but given that development costs are lower the risk is not as high for developers/publishers.
Not only is this bad for the 3DS but it may also potentially affect future handheld devices. We are already seeing Tablet/Phone games taking a huge chunk of the market away from Nintendo and Sony and a set back such as this won't help as Dev's may end up giving up dedicated handheld devices altogether.
I know that piracy is quite rampant on the mobile platforms but given that development costs are lower the risk is not as high for developers/publishers.
Chezzymann
Member
I can't imagine any self respecting person that would actually support this thing.
nephilimdj
Member
Sure will be cheap chinese clones within 2-3months, but sucks about region locking.
SanguineShark
Member
I'm honestly glad it's so terrible. Less chances of anyone buying it and simply buying you know...games. These people should be ashamed of themselves.
The Technomancer
card-carrying scientician
Ugh, yeah, one game per card basically kills it for me. The whole reason I bought my DS flashcart was because I was sick of hauling around 20+ (later 30+) games on trips and stuff, but this is basically useless to me.
Ewww don't want.
It's likely Nintendo will have released a new firmware blocking it by then, and requires that that firmware on every new game cartridge made.
Since they can't alter the game code to remove region unlocks, it's even more doubtful anyone would ever be able to strip the firmware updates from the games.
So enjoy buying your cheap chinese knock off version to play only old games, 1 game per SD, and every time you switch to a new game your saves go poof.
lol
Haha, you might as well just buy the physical version of the game.
Saibastian
Neo Member
Having to switch SD cards eh? It sounds pretty inconsistent, but once other groups get their hands on how to do it they will probably have a better method. It certainly is interesting, but no doubt Nintendo isn't going to take this sitting down.
nephilimdj
Member
Saibastian
Neo Member
Being the first ones to do something has its advantages.
Omegasquash
Member
I really don't see any benefit to this item. Like, none at all.
Of course, I owned one of the original Supercards that came out for the DS that also required you to flash your DS firmware using a special tool.
This new device has way too many downsides to make it worth buying, better off sticking with carrying around my actual 3DS carts. If I can't keep them digitally on the one card it makes it pointless for me.
One game per cart? Fuck, that basically banks the device as some strange backup thing, making it more of a pure incentive for piracy than literally anything else.
Come back to me when we get cards that are region free and can store tons of games. Maybe then the reasons will be worth it, as well as the price for a game dumper being cheaper. How much do those cost on a 3DS? Is it fair to assume such a device costs more than this card?
Come back to me when we get cards that are region free and can store tons of games. Maybe then the reasons will be worth it, as well as the price for a game dumper being cheaper. How much do those cost on a 3DS? Is it fair to assume such a device costs more than this card?
BishopLamont
Banned
Piracy.
Sorry, but this isn't. Making a 1-1 copy of the a cartridge has always being in the cards and always was (relatively) easy to do. With this device we are no closer to region free or homebrew. Multiple ROMs on a single card should be attainable, but implementing such function would probably increase the price of the device by a considerable margin.
Such method would need to run on the card itself, though.
Once it has a loader that can boot multiple games per cart, like you want, that is when it becomes a popular piracy device. For those that want a workaround on a game for region lock purposes, wouldn't the one game per cart work for that? Or am I oblivious to how many region locked games people really want to play?
It could, but the issue is simple; this doesn't break region locking. It narrows the pool for options.
I hope this is enough to kill this as serious piracy and being more like a glorified demo cart. I can't imagine any but the cheapest of people would really care if they can't retain progress in modern games.
chadderbox77
Member
Supercard dstwo is one.
Dealextreme sells a USB device for this purpose which costs ten bucks. It's been out of stock for ages, though.
I would love it if Nintendo would create a cartridge solely for this purpose. I'd gladly shell out fifty or sixty bucks for it. I would rather make the single large purchase than to have to double up every time a game comes out that my lady and i would like to play together. On NSMB2 and DKC, there are three save slots, which seems to encourage three people in your house to enjoy the game in single-player mode. However, for two of you to enjoy it together, you gotta buy another cartridge. It would be really neat for Nintendo to develop a "Player 2" cartridge which downloads the game data from a legitimate cartridge and then purges said data when system link is broken. NSMB2 wasn't worth its asking price for single player, IMHO. Should've been a $20 title. Asking me to double that investment for a multiplayer which proved to be atrocious was a real kick in the pants.
Nintendo life is reporting this
http://www.nintendolife.com/news/2013/06/nintendo_blocks_3ds_flashcard_with_latest_firmware_update
natkingcoleslaw
Neo Member
Nintendo, this is why you should get your shit together and announce a decent, nay an excellent account system.
Because of where I live, I'm forced to buy all my games off the e-shop right now. If shit goes down and I lose/break my XL, I hope the flashcart gods are listening and bring great justice down on Ninty's head.
But seriously though Nintendo, do the right thing.
Because of where I live, I'm forced to buy all my games off the e-shop right now. If shit goes down and I lose/break my XL, I hope the flashcart gods are listening and bring great justice down on Ninty's head.
But seriously though Nintendo, do the right thing.