Came to post the same thing. This thing seems like a hassle to use.
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Gateway 3DS: First working 3DS flashcart? [Still region locked]
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Came to post the same thing. This thing seems like a hassle to use.
peanutbutterlatte
Member
Grumpy Cat "GOOD." This had zero alternative uses.
nice and quick firmware nintendo. Would be a shame to see 3ds software sales getting demolished like ds software sales in the end because of easy pirating. I mean, it is fun and cool when the system is already at the end of its life/dead especially for making backups and easy acces, but the 3ds is only just getting there to be a healthy environment. Something nintendo really needs now, seeing how badly the wii u does.
And Nintendo blocked it before it was even released.
lol
maybe. maybe not.
but even in their denial that it's blocked, they admit that Nintendo blocked it with the latest firmware.
From another forum said:
translation:
No it's not blocked, but it just doesn't work with the latest update. Please, Buy it anyways! And maybe, maybe we'll get it to work again with the latest firmware.
But it will still be negative even if its the end of the systems life. Developers won't even touch the system if it opens up. Wish people could stop with the "oh it's the last year of its life, lets pirate the shit out the last games that are coming out. Developers are to losing anything thank god for that!"
The Abominable Snowman
Member
Firmware only delays. It's never a complete block.
peanutbutterlatte
Member
It can continue delaying. And it's not like this exploit is completely airtight.
Selfish as it may be, to me the positives will outweigh the negatives.
KojiKnight
Member
Depends, this doesn't seem to be a hole in the encryption (no custom loaders, 1 game per SD card), so this is no way to run any custom homebrew or anything that will somehow help people looking to truly break into the system.
This seems to merely simulate a real cart, and a proper white/black list may be able to keep these kinds of carts from being wide spread.
Tagg: They probably had their engineers go over the system once these carts were announced. Again, since they know that the encryption hasn't been defeated, that greatly cuts down on where the hole could be.
With something like this you can probably still make it so much of a pain it can never see widespread use. Which is really the best hope for anti-piracy, although this time it's comical how they apparently killed it entirely by accident.
I am Michael Bolton
Banned
Really? If I don't trust the eShop amd Nintendo protecting my purchases than yes this does/would in the future have a use of allowing me to carry my purchased games on my 3DS just like those who download them from the eShop.
Ninja Scooter
Member
if you don't trust Nintendo or the eShop don't use their services.
Elaugaufein
Member
If developers choose to screw us over with a region lock then they are going to lose some sympathy. It's hard to make an emotional argument for treating them with extra empathy when they demonstrate a distinct lack of interest in returning the favor. And region locking is little more than screwing customers, there's been very few piracy enablers that don't disable region locking and its trivially defeatable merely by importing a 3DS from a different region,.
I am Michael Bolton
Banned
Which is why many folks were interested in this. I enjoy many 3DS games and bought them via retail. A card that would allow me to carry all of my purchased games with me from the sd card definitely has a legitimate purpose other than piracy.
Crimsonclaw111
Member
So this thing got blocked already. Lol.
I NEED SCISSORS
Banned
Utterly pointless.
DonMigs85
Member
Yes but very few people will be as honorable as you. To satisfy your selfish requests could mean the death of future software on the 3DS. Just play by Nintendo's rules - it's not meant to be an open platform. You have stuff like Ouya for that.
Also who knows? They might reveal a proper account system later this year
fabricated backlash
Member
Piracy.
peanutbutterlatte
Member
Unfortunately you're the minority there. I can count all the people I knew who owned an R4 for the DS and used it for legitimate purposes on one finger. And I don't think I'd need to use that finger.
Either way, this isn't what you're describing. It's a way to carry one game at a time on a single cart. Sound familiar?
The negative is a huge drop in support. What possible positive can outweigh that? If piracy becomes common it won't be a DS situation - DS managed to survive and keep support because, well, it's the second best selling game system ever released. 3DS needs to remain as profitable as it is right now to keep being relevant.
Aquamarine
Member
Agreed---in my opinion, flashcarts do more harm than good for the consumer. Rampant piracy can have devastating effects on the health of a platform...the PSP in the West being the quintessential example of this.
But that hacker e-cred.
Aquamarine
Member
Unfortunately, piracy groups have spent years distributing illegal 3DS roms, so it will be easier than ever for 3DS piracy to proliferate.
The 3DS is already struggling for Western-released third-party support...if these flashcarts become the norm, we may see fewer and fewer titles get localized. A tragedy, really.
I hope all future 3DS games come with a mandatory update built-in so that this piracy-enabling flashcart will be restricted to past titles only.
I'd like it if it reached DS / PSP levels of open-ness once its life was over completely - like, midway into the 4DS's life, or even further would be fine. But I'd still like it to happen eventually, once the point came that being open wouldn't really affect Nintendo or other developers much. Fan translations and homebrew are great things, and it sucks that piracy always has to mix itself in there with them in these kinds of threads.
Well technically they haven't really hacked the 3DS anyway, just made a flashcart that successfully mimics a legitimate retail copy.
Yeah, even though I want a 3DS flashcart the piracy it will bring makes me not want one in the first place. It's 50/50
I just want a flashcart so I can store all my games in one card so I wont be worried having one to a few games if they get stolen like my GBA games in the past.
But in Nintendo's defense I could go digital. (Even though I love physical copies ;_
DR2K
Banned
Do you have any numbers or facts to back your statement up?
just to be clear:
the company you don't trust let people take their games from previous consoles to the new one.
The others with an "holy grail" account system in place did not.
InfiniteNine
Rolling Girl
Screw that I dropped playing by their rules once they region locked the damn thing. If there is a flash cart or firmware hack that negates it I'm sure as hell going to get it.
Coffee Dog
Banned
Prove it.
Aquamarine
Member
http://www.siliconera.com/2010/06/0...sy-downloaded-illegally-over-5-million-times/
http://www.gamasutra.com/php-bin/news_index.php?story=23301
http://www.siliconera.com/2010/06/13/psp-and-ds-piracy-explained-in-pictures/
http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/28643/Sonys_Dyer_The_PSP_Has_Problems_Were_Fixing_Them.php
http://torrentfreak.com/psp-piracy-is-trending-up-despite-sonys-claims-081222/
A direct example where PSP piracy caused a third-party to bow out of the system:
http://www.edge-online.com/news/piracy-may-force-q-games-abandon-psp-plans/
God of War Developer (not Jaffe) talking about the impact of PSP piracy:
http://www.computerandvideogames.com/272071/almost-no-point-in-making-psp-games-god-of-war-dev/
Etc.
That's why I said after a few years. Let's say the 3DS is hacked once its successor has already been on the market for a year, would the the negative impact really be that great?
What does backwards compatibility have to do with anything? If I lost my Vita or if it got stolen, it would be extremely easy to transfer all my digital games to a new system. If the same happens with my Nintendo console, I will be at the mercy of Nintendo. There's no possible way you can defend this.
BTW, PS1 classics carry over to Vita and Sony doesn't charge you a dime to use the new emulator features, unlike a certain other company.
you missed the point entirely.
I am not defending Nintendo's practices, I am questioning the trust in other companies which clearly showed that they can't be trusted either. That blog post surely sounds horrible, BUT it's also more than a year old by now and I've read dozens of cases in the meantime that had quick and happy resolves.With Nintendo it's like russian roulette, you may win, you may lose. but with ps360 to xbone4 you definitly lose, account system or not.
the point is:
there is no certainty, ever.
You can't just assume your digitally bought games are safe because they are tied to an account. The ps360 case clearly shows they are not.
I know its due to the missing backwards compatibility. But than I need to ask why is it ok in this case? You also paid for it and it doesn't seem like they'd even attempt to bring those games over.
they don't stop you from using them. you get what you paid for, nothing more, nothing less.
good for the handful of vita owners if they get at least something from sony, we all know there isn't that much beyond that these days.