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Gawker Media files for Chapter 11 Bankruptcy Protection

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Surprising number of people that think it's ok for a billionaire to abuse the law to take down personal enemies. Don't see anybody talking about the fact that they dropped charges that gawker's insurance would have covered + the fact that Thiel spent millions paying people to dig up potential lawsuits to attack gawker with and repeatedly appealed cases they lost until they found a judge that would sympathize with them. This wasn't about hulk's sex tape, this wasn't a media company that simply got punished for breaking the law, this was a billionaire's personal vendetta. Yes, that's a scary precedent. Next time it might not happen to a media company you happen to hate.

edit: also, yet again we have a situation where people try to turn things into a good vs evil with no nuance. To be clear, disagreeing with the way the lawsuit played out doesn't mean I'm defending Gawker's actions or anything the CEO has said.

Yes, a billionaire had to manipulate how the lawsuit proceeded in order to win, now think of all the people affected by Gawker and their likes that have no recourse to defend themselves. The only scary precedent here is that it had to take the involvement of a billionaire to bring justice because the justice system in the US is fucked up.
 
Well shit, if he told some people, we must be ethically right to tell everyone! Fuck off with this forced outing shite.

Mhm, This is a moment where people need to realize they can't have it both ways.

Yes, Journalists should have protection from people with vendettas. But no, that doesn't mean that journalists can go snooping about everyones life and releasing that information to the world.

Outing a gay person wasn't even the worst thing they did, IIRC there was a women who had a sex tape filmed of her and when she requested Gawker to take it down, they declined.

Like, I understand that billionaires can't go around attacking the sites that displease them. At the same time, there needs to be journalistic integrity in those institutions. And yeah, it took something like the Hulk Hogan sex tape to be lined up from the right people behind it(Hulk going after Gawker, Thiel possibly bankrolling him) for Gawker to fall, but that's because they are(were?) a rotten institution that brought it upon itself.

Like I've mentioned, I feel bad for the legit journalists there that didn't want any part of that mess. But when you have trash like Denton trying to defend leaking sex tapes, there is very little remorse in them being financially destroyed. This isn't some 'Burn down all the news organizations' rhetoric, and it's wrong to take it that way knowing the facts.

And this is one of those times people can't have it both ways.
 
Hulk Hogan is a celebrity. Celebrity sex tapes and leaks are released all the time. Why is the issue Gawker? They're not the first media outlet to release some celebrity expose', hence the disconnect.
Gawker basically aided in a blackmail attempt against Hogan who was filmed without their knowledge or consent, if this story involved the Erin Andrews incident would you feel the same way?
 

Yagharek

Member
Mhm, This is a moment where people need to realize they can't have it both ways.

Yes, Journalists should have protection from people with vendettas. But no, that doesn't mean that journalists can go snooping about everyones life and releasing that information to the world.

Outing a gay person wasn't even the worst thing they did, IIRC there was a women who had a sex tape filmed of her and when she requested Gawker to take it down, they declined.

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Like I've mentioned, I feel bad for the legit journalists there that didn't want any part of that mess. But when you have trash like Denton trying to defend leaking sex tapes, there is very little remorse in them being financially destroyed. This isn't some 'Burn down all the news organizations' rhetoric, and it's wrong to take it that way knowing the facts.

This is my take. Sex tapes and invasion of privacy are not news. It is illegal voyeurism peddled under the umbrella of protection of the press. These outlets publishing content like this with negative public value deserve to be taken down. In fact, not enough outlets are taken down as it is.

This has nothing to do with disliking Gawker or their subsidiaries. It's about disliking their illegal invasion of privacy on multiple accounts. If they weren't doing that then they could continue on as normal but after their actions, good riddance.
 

JP_

Banned
Yes, a billionaire had to manipulate how the lawsuit proceeded in order to win, now think of all the people affected by Gawker and their likes that have no recourse to defend themselves. The only scary precedent here is that it had to take the involvement of a billionaire to bring justice because the justice system in the US is fucked up.

But that's besides the point. Imagine it wasn't Gawker and it wasn't about a sex tape. A news site you like, but that trashed some racist guy who wants revenge? Some random blogger who isn't a large company pissed off some rich guy? These tactics used by Thiel aren't somehow limited to doing justice -- look at what happened to Mother Jones. And one of the scariest aspects of it is that it could be done entirely in secret. Gawker CEO had a hunch that something was fishy, but Thiel didn't have to come out and admit to this. We could be talking today not even knowing how our legal system was manipulated by one guy with a shit ton of money.

Last year, the liberal magazine Mother Jones defeated a defamation lawsuit filed by Republican donor Frank VanderSloot. Winning the lawsuit cost Mother Jones, a relatively small nonprofit organization, $2.5 million in legal fees.

If VanderSloot's goal was to punish Mother Jones for writing an accurate but unflattering story about him, a loss was almost as good as a victory. His lawsuit sought $74,999. (Staying just under the $75,000 threshold that would have allowed Mother Jones to move the case to federal court and away from an Idaho jury that might have favored the hometown plaintiff.) So "winning" the lawsuit cost Mother Jones 30 times as much as the amount it would have had to pay if it had lost.

What was really ominous was what happened after VanderSloot's loss. He "announced that he was setting up a $1 million fund to pay the legal expenses of people wanting to sue Mother Jones or other members of the 'liberal press.'"

http://www.vox.com/2016/5/26/11784036/gawker-peter-thiel-dangerous
 

zeshakag

Member
But that's besides the point. Imagine it wasn't Gawker. A news site you like, but that trashed some racist guy who wants revenge? Some random blogger who isn't a large company pissed off some rich guy? These tactics used by Thiel aren't somehow limited to doing justice.

http://www.vox.com/2016/5/26/11784036/gawker-peter-thiel-dangerous


So let's say a guy I love, Ethan from H3H3 starts a blog and publishes that guys sex tape without his consent and refuses to take it down. Then he gets a court order to take it down and refuses. I don't know, still seems wrong and illegal to me?? The guy is still breaking the law and defying the court.
 

BruceCLea

Banned
Denton's letter after everything reads like the ramblings of a maniac. He honestly thinks he's doing the world a favour.

As a journalist in America, I despise this man and what he stands for. Also, many large organizations own TV news stations across the nation. TV news isn't really going anywhere and neither are internet sites. They both still make people a lot of money, so it's quite farfetched to see a Thiel-like destruction to an established and respected news source. Denton made his bed when he broke the law. Thiel was waiting in the wings, ready to pounce. He did. It's amazing how flippant Denton was in regards to the whole situation. Then again, you read his work and it's clear that he's delusional.
 

JP_

Banned
So let's say a guy I love, Ethan from H3H3 starts a blog and publishes that guys sex tape without his consent and refuses to take it down. Then he gets a court order to take it down and refuses. I don't know, still seems wrong and illegal to me?? The guy is still breaking the law and defying the court.

Thiel was backing tons of lawsuits in addition to the Hogan one because this isn't about the sex tape -- it's about Thiel spending his millions like they're nothing just for the sake of getting revenge on Gawker. Gawker could very well win the Hogan case on appeal anyway. Look at what happened to Mother Jones for another example of this sort of legal abuse (in that vox article I linked).

And why do you guys keep repeating the false claim that they kept the video up? They took the video down -- what they kept up was their article about the video.

A lawful order from a circuit court judge is a serious thing. While we vehemently disagree with Campbell's order with respect to the video itself, we have chosen to take it down pending our appeal.

But the portion of the order compelling us to remove the entirety of Daulerio's post—his words, his speech—is grossly unconstitutional. We won't take it down.
 

GuyKazama

Member
Hogan is now forcing Denton to declare personal bankruptcy

http://www.politico.com/media/story...n-continue-suit-against-gawker-founder-004674

But Denton and Daulerio did not declare bankruptcy, so Hogan could still go after them. The bankruptcy court overseeing the Gawker case issued a temporary restraining order, which prevented Hogan from going after Denton or Daulerio, but that order expired on Tuesday. Denton had hoped that the judge would issue a preliminary injunction, which would have continued to freeze the Hogan litigation, at least until the Gawker bankruptcy sale was over in mid-August.
Now, Denton has little choice but to declare personal bankruptcy
 

Xisiqomelir

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Gawker Media, which went into Chapter 11 to avoid paying a $140 million invasion-of-privacy verdict to Hulk Hogan, can’t extend the bankruptcy court’s protection to its founder, Nick Denton, likely triggering his own personal bankruptcy.

U.S. Bankruptcy Judge Stuart Bernstein Tuesday denied the request after a hearing in Manhattan. Denton, who started the online news and gossip company in his apartment in 2002, testified about how important he is to the health of the business. He also described the threat he perceives from Peter Thiel, the tech mogul who bankrolled Hogan’s case.

“As has been reported, the Silicon Valley billionaire Peter Thiel has been funding a series of lawsuits against the company intended to deter critical coverage,” Denton testified. “It’s been a drain on the company’s energy and financial resources.”

Denton told the judge he would file for personal bankruptcy if he didn’t get the protection, and that he expected such a proceeding would be expensive given how other cases against Gawker have gone. The media company has already spent $13 million defending the Hogan suit, Denton said.

“I expect my own personal bankruptcy will be anything but straightforward,” he told the judge.
Disrupt Plan

Denton testified Tuesday that a personal bankruptcy could disrupt Gawker’s plan to sell itself in an August auction, in which he would play a role marketing the company. Lead bidder Ziff Davis has agreed to bid $90 million and keep Denton on if it wins the auction.

“I’m the founder of the company,” he said, when asked whether Gawker could survive without him. “I founded it out of my apartment and I know where all the bodies are buried.”

He testified that 15 parties have signed nondisclosure agreements -- a sign of serious interest -- since the Ziff Davis offer was announced and that he expects active bidding.

Denton is leading the effort to find a buyer, Gawker’s president and general counsel, Heather Dietrick, told the court.

“He knows the industry better than anyone in the company,” she said.
Maximum Bid

Gawker’s lawyers argued that if Denton is forced into personal bankruptcy, he wouldn’t be able to ensure that the auction raises the maximum amount possible.

But Bernstein said Tuesday that if Denton files bankruptcy to protect himself from more legal attacks, he would still be able to help Gawker reorganize.

Hogan sued Gawker and Denton in Florida after the site published excerpts from a sex tape featuring the former pro wrestler. The jury found for Hogan, prompting Gawker to enter bankruptcy in June.
Public Policy

Public policy interests are also at stake, Gawker’s lawyers had argued in court papers.

According to Gawker, Thiel has had it in for the company since 2007, when it outed him as gay. Thiel, who co-founded PayPal, has since publicly acknowledged that he’s gay and called Gawker’s now-defunct blog Valleywag the “Silicon Valley equivalent of al-Qaeda.” In a New York Times interview, he described his backing of Hogan and other litigants as a philanthropic way to help those who can’t afford to defend themselves against press attacks and intrusions.

Blocking the lawsuits against Denton would “temporarily prevent a billionaire with a personal vendetta from using the legal system to further his campaign against the debtors and their employees,” Gawker said in a court filing.

Hogan’s lawyers argued against the relief, saying Denton isn’t running day-to-day operations at Gawker and isn’t instrumental to the business. They cited the numerous professionals hired to guide the company through bankruptcy while Denton is “spending his time blogging, Tweeting, and providing interviews.”
‘Ongoing Campaign’

Gawker countered that Denton is working “triple duty” marketing the business and “minimizing the impact of the ongoing campaign to destroy the company and its employees.”

For now, Hogan is unable to collect from Gawker because his claims are temporarily halted during bankruptcy. That gives the company time to appeal the verdict while arranging a sale. If Gawker loses on appeal, sale proceeds would go to creditors -- including Hogan.

In a statement after the judge announced his decision, Denton said he remained focused on the sale.

“As I’ve said, Peter Thiel’s vendetta against my company may well require me as well as the company to file for bankruptcy protection until the Florida appeals court can rule on the extraordinary $140 million judgment,” he said. “This story will conclude with Gawker Media’s popular brands sheltered under new ownership and the importance of a free and critical press reaffirmed by the courts.”

The case is In re Gawker Media LLC, 16-11700, U.S. Bankruptcy Court, Southern District of New York (Manhattan).


Bloomberg
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In the Shakespearean drama that is the Hulk Hogan vs. Gawker Media defamation lawsuit, the former professional wrestler, Terry Bollea, and the Silicon Valley billionaire revealed as having bankrolled the suit, Peter Thiel, just got some good news. A U.S. judge has denied Nick Denton, the founder of the embattled media company, from receiving legal protection that would have safeguarded him from personal liability in the case. As a result, Denton may file for personal bankruptcy.

Last month, Gawker filed for bankruptcy protection and announced it was putting up the “for sale” sign in order to protect its assets. With a stalking horse bid on the table for just shy of $100 million from digital-media conglomerate Ziff-Davis, Gawker is set to go up for auction in August, in an attempt to avoid paying Bollea—better known by his stage name, Hulk Hogan—the $140 million he was awarded in a Florida court earlier this year. The latest ruling has prompted Denton to explore a similar option, Recode reports. Before the judge’s decision, Denton’s lawyers argued that the British journalist should be shielded from other lawsuits and protected from liabilities while Gawker is undergoing the bankruptcy process because dealing with his personal bankruptcy would be a distraction, The Guardian reports. In a statement to Recode, Denton wrote, “As I’ve said, Peter Thiel’s vendetta against my company may well require me as well as the company to file for bankruptcy protection until the Florida appeals court can rule on the extraordinary $140 million judgment.”

Denton has two assets that could be at risk if he does not file for bankruptcy: his 30 percent stake in Gawker and equity in his apartment. Denton took out a $200,000 loan from Gawker to pay for two meetings with a personal bankruptcy lawyer, according to the The Guardian, citing court proceedings. At the time of Gawker’s bankruptcy filing last month, the company was using two loans, totaling more than $20 million, to keep the lights on. Gawker still plans to appeal the verdict that put it on the hook for $140 million after publishing a sex tape of Bollea, which Denton still asserts his company will win. “This story will conclude with Gawker Media’s popular brands sheltered under new ownership and the importance of a free and critical press reaffirmed by the courts,” he wrote in the statement to Recode. If Gawker does win the appeal, the money from its sale will be returned to Denton and its shareholders; if it fails on appeal, Bollea will pocket the money.

This latest chapter in the ongoing saga—regardless of whether or not Denton successfully files for personal bankruptcy—is a win for Thiel, who has sunk millions into this lawsuit and is reportedly funding others in an act of vengeance after Gawker published an article in 2007 that outed the PayPal co-founder. Once revealed to be behind the case, which will have a long-lasting impact on media and privacy law whichever way the ruling goes, Thiel called his siege against Gawker, “one of my greater philanthropic things that I have done.”

If he gets a good enough BK lawyer he might (unfortunately) end up with more than the shirt on his back, but for now:

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jett

D-Member
I had missed the news that Gawker (and Denton) had actually filed for bankruptcy. Wonder how this will all end.

This is getting real personal and rediculous. Denton should give Thiel an anti-SLAPP lawsuit ASAP.

Well... It is a pretty personal lawsuit for Hogan and for Thiel for that matter.
 

This part is amazing:

In the filing, Denton says he has assets of $10 to $50 million and liabilities of $100 to $500 million. His debts includes $125 million that he owes to Hogan, an $11.5 million loan that he took out on June 10 from Silicon Valley Bank, a $50,000 loan he took from his 401(k) at Gawker and his Time Warner Cable bill for $120.88.

Yes! Good job, Nick Denton. Stick it to Time Warner!
 

twinturbo2

butthurt Heat fan
I had missed the news that Gawker (and Denton) had actually filed for bankruptcy. Wonder how this will all end.



Well... It is a pretty personal lawsuit for Hogan and for Thiel for that matter.
Hogan was bragging about the sex tape to Howard Stern, and Thiel's sexuality was an open secret in the Valley. But okay.
 
Hogan was bragging about the sex tape to Howard Stern, and Thiel's sexuality was an open secret in the Valley. But okay.

Who cares? That doesn't mean it's okay for them to distribute it without his consent. Amy Schumer is pretty open about her sex life in interviews and in her act but would that make it okay to release a revenge porn tape of her without her knowledge?
 

Xisiqomelir

Member
Hogan's attorney David Houston issued a statement saying that "legal maneuvering" by Denton and his lawyers "is nearing an end. It is time for them to take responsibility for what they've done."

IIRC there are actually a few other manoeuvers available.

EDIT: Missed the Denton memo:

You may have seen the news that I have, as expected, had to join the company in bankruptcy. Peter Thiel’s legal campaign has targeted individual writers like Sam Biddle, editors such as John Cook, and me as publisher.

Was it right to bring back bullying or not? Can jschrier check for us?
 

Xisiqomelir

Member
Hey no disgusting yellow tabloid journalism at my BK hearing, please!

How about respecting my privacy?

http://nypost.com/2016/08/25/nick-denton-prefers-press-stay-home-from-bankruptcy-hearing/

Nick Denton prefers press stay home from bankruptcy hearing

Gawker founder Nick Denton bristled at a public probing of his finances at a bankruptcy court hearing Thursday, asking “Is this an open meeting?” when he spotted press in the room.

“It’s very important now you’re in Chapter 11, your financial affairs are an open book for better or for worse,” said US Department of Justice attorney Greg Zipes, a court-appointed monitor for the bankruptcy case.

Denton tightly crossed his arms and shook his head as Hulk Hogan’s attorney Kenneth Turkel grilled him about how he spent a $2 million home equity loan.

“I got married, I had a rather expensive wedding,” Denton said, referring to the 300-guest affair at the American Museum of Natural History in 2014.

Denton is married to an out-of-work actor named Derrence Washington, who is 17 years his junior.

Denton said he also paid for a renovation to his $4.2 million Soho apartment and other “living expenses.”

He revealed that he will sell the dream home after a bankruptcy judge told him he couldn’t afford to pay the mortgage and condo fees. Denton owes Hogan $125 million for posting a video of the wrestler having sex with his best friend’s wife.

Univision bought Gawker at auction for $135 million. Denton’s share was only worth $30 million, and his apartment is his only other substantial asset.

The hearing was an initial proceeding to get Denton to answer questions under oath about his finances before his bankruptcy case gets fully under way.

The hypocrisy never ends with the Dentster.
 

FyreWulff

Member
The family of the son Hogan's kid almost killed is probably lining up their ducks after Hogan's strategic divorce to keep his assets from them.
 
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