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So basically Lucas was against the idea of TFA being an ANH retread.
I can appreciate that.
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So basically Lucas was against the idea of TFA being an ANH retread.
I can appreciate that.
Well I mean, they could have done with a bit less retreat. The wholeThey had to do that to get fans back after George shat and pissed all over them. It's a safe first movie. If TFA was experimental or unfamiliar it would have been a much riskier move.
We can probably expect more original SW movies coming down the pike, but for the first one? You can bet your ass they'd play it safe.
Star Wars isn't Star Wars without Lucas IMO. Real fans of the franchise know this.
He donated ALL ot it.In the end he took the money. So, what does that make him?
Wait, have people really deluded themselves into thinking that the movie HAD to play it safe?
It's fucking Star Wars, it would have been successful one way or another (to the degree that it is atm is another discussion). This line of thinking that it had to "play it safe" in order to properly succeed is outrageous lol
Before the deal came about, Lucas said he planned on writing and directing the sequels to his original trilogy. Then the sale occurred. Disney was not interested in his ideas for the follow-ups, so he stayed away from the production of Force Awakens, he said.
He is. Chicago is giving him a mega platform to do so. Why, I'm not sure...So take those new ideas of yours and make something new.
It is what it is. Nostalgia seems to sell pretty well at the moment and Disney needed to justify the price tag.
Don't worry, Georgy. I do appreciate the prequels a bit more after TFA, despite your terrible script and directing.
I can understand loving TFA... but not even being able to see how Disney played it desperately safe...?
We all see it. We've all acknowledged it. TFA is an ANH clone, for better or for worse.
Oh lawd.
If you had maybe said the final duel with Maul, I still wouldn't agree but I could see it. The podracing sequence was just pace-killing nonsense.
They had to do a retro movie to recapture the tone that you set but then lost Georgie.
Me too. They're terribly flawed films... but I do appreciate their original vision far more now.
How is The Force Awakens retro?
The prequel trilogy feels more retro to me because it was the early 2000s when many companies had no fucking idea how to believably implement CG in their films.
I think he was comparing Disney to slave owners in that they "use" his series for strictly profit. Or something along those lines anyway.
If he wanted to do the sequels he shouldn't have sold Star Wars.
George, pls.
I'm saying if you've read or listened to a single thing with JJ or any of the cast, cynicism is the last thing anyone involved was thinking or feeling.
The latest installment has been a massive success and will likely become the highest grossing film of all time.
He isn't wrong about TFA. It isn't a terrible movie and I enjoyed it but it is nothing more than a recast and tweaked A New Hope with some elements of Empire and Jedi thrown in for extra flavor.
I would be interested in seeing his outlines for 7 8 and 9. People saying he is terrible are full of shit. He is fantastic on the creative side. Its the bringing the creative to life where he runs into trouble especially if there isn't people to reign him in.
Yes, George Lucas is a neo-nazi didn't you know?Is he implying that Disney is anti-white? I don't understand where he was starting to go with that comment.
and this... a thousand times. he broke it and Disney fixed it.
"They wanted to do a retro movie. I don't like that. Every movie, I worked very hard to make them different," Lucas told Rose. "I made them completely different -- different planets, different spaceships to make it new."
So that's why Princess Amidala had a new chrome ship in every movie.
They had to do a retro movie to recapture the tone that you set but then lost Georgie.
Well I mean, they could have done with a bit less retreat. The wholecould have been an entirely new thing and the movie would still have been good and felt like the old ones.new death star planet and the way it was destroyed
Agreed. And if he wanted people to want him to helm a new trilogy, she shouldn't have fucked up the prequels. He's got no one to blame but himself.
If he wanted to do the sequels he shouldn't have sold Star Wars.
George, pls.
not as bad as that freighter scene with han and the guys from the raid. and man i love that race scene haha.
Nah.
Lucas crying about retreads when Attack of the Clones exists in the same universe that gave us Empires Strikes Back?
Before the deal came about, Lucas said he planned on writing and directing the sequels to his original trilogy.
Okay I get that. They did radiate passion all through the thing.
But I'm pretty sure JJ and crew were mandated to work within the boundaries of making it an ANH-nostalgia fest.
Someone set up that mandate. Disney? Kathleen Kennedy? The Lucasfilm story group? Or was it JJ and Kasdan? There was a cynical "we need to get this right and so we're clinging to what worked in the past" at some level of the production, clearly.
Gotta agree. I liked tfa but it was a fuckin replica movie. So many matching beats to a new hopeThat's hogwash. All they had to do was create a good film, which can be done while recapturing the tone of the originals without straight up remaking them.
What?To be honest, I expected more advanced tech to match our time similar to the originals matching the 70s/80s and the PT matching the 50s/60s. We got a rolling droid and...?
I'm a fan of the PT, btw.
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Exactly.
"I made them completely different -- different planets, different spaceships to make it new."