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Germany Hardware LTD through March 2015: PS4 1.6 million, XBO 378K
- Thread starter John Bender
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Mass_Pincup
Banned
Ouch, more then 1M lead already?
That doesn't look good.
That doesn't look good.
Q
Queen of Hunting
Unconfirmed Member
Bah god 4 to one noses
YianGaruga
Banned
perfect
Both consoles are being pushed very hard in Germany with very good deals popping up every week, but in general Xbox Ones are even 50-100€ cheaper than PS4s. MS never had a chance.
John Bender
Banned
4.21 : 1
Seems to me like it's PC land first, but when talking about consoles then Sony's where people play.Germany is Sonyland
But i didn't expect it to be this much.
1.21Gigawatts
Banned
They aimed for 40% marketshare.
Newtype-001
Member
Can someone dig up numbers for 360 sales last gen in germany?
Nightengale
Member
It is worse.
Since Germany is a tier-1 Xbox market, that means a portion of that 378k are imported by tier-2 markets to be sold unofficially.
Tiers are weird.
For some reference from this thread
"We want to improve within a year our market share to 40 percent," said Xbox Germany boss Oliver Kaltner the newspaper "Euro am Sonntag" - 16th November 2013
http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/Microsoft-will-mehr-Spiele-verkaufen-2047984.html
Germany LtD hardware sales (in million) from November 2013:
Wii: 4.6M (42%)
PS3: 3.9M (36%)
Xbox 360: 2.4M (22%)
"We want to improve within a year our market share to 40 percent," said Xbox Germany boss Oliver Kaltner the newspaper "Euro am Sonntag" - 16th November 2013
http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/Microsoft-will-mehr-Spiele-verkaufen-2047984.html
Germany LtD hardware sales (in million) from November 2013:
Wii: 4.6M (42%)
PS3: 3.9M (36%)
Xbox 360: 2.4M (22%)
SomedayTheFire
Member
Didn't a lot of Benelux have to import their Xbox's from Germany and France?
They missed. They can still hit 14% though.
Scandinavia imported a lot from Germany before MS enabled direct sales in Sept2014, almost year after the Tier1 launch.
LiquidSolid
Member
PS3 was at 4.2M as of June 2014:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=866924
Wii U was also at 350k in August, so it's pretty safe to say it'll still be in front of the Xbone.
PdotMichael
Banned
It's okay the Xbox One still isn't realeased in important second tier regions in Germany like Bavaria or Sylt.
Dragon1893
Member
Damn, that's worse for the X1 than I thought.
Nintendo has always been strong in Germany.
Nintendo has always been strong in Germany.
Glomby
Member
Then what's wrong with me? I know nobody with a PS4 but 4 people with an X1.
The problem here in Germany is people basically don't know or care what the Xbox brand really is. Whenever I show someone both consoles they are surprised that the Xbox is actually any good and many even prefer it then. Microsoft needs to push the brand in Europe not the console. No matter what they do with Xbox, even if it was two times as powerful as the ps4, people wouldn't care.
John Bender
Banned
PC is very strong in germany, but it is not "first".
PdotMichael
Banned
The other way.
The WiiU was released one year before the Xbox One and PS4, so Microsoft should at least secure the second place this year.
That was maybe 15 years ago.
So, "known" numbers so far.
Germany (March 2015):
PS4 1.6M
XB1 378k
France (December 2014)
PS4 1.1M
XB1 416k
UK
PS4 1M (August 2014)
XB1 1M (Late November 2014)
Combined 3.3M (Late January 2015). I would expect the PS4 LTD to be higher than in Germany, I guess.
Japan (April 2015)
PS4 1.43M
XB1 50k
Spain (Mid-September 2014)
PS4 360k
XB1 ~52k
Combined 700k as of January 2015.
Italy (December 2014, sales projection)
PS4 550k
XB1 150k
No idea how it turned out, I can't find anything more recent than 210k PS4 in June 2014.
Middle East (January 2015)
PS4 1M "soon"
XB1 ?
Australia
PS4 >200k (November 2014)
XB1 ?
Probably missed a couple. Also lost track of the LTDs in the US.
Germany (March 2015):
PS4 1.6M
XB1 378k
France (December 2014)
PS4 1.1M
XB1 416k
UK
PS4 1M (August 2014)
XB1 1M (Late November 2014)
Combined 3.3M (Late January 2015). I would expect the PS4 LTD to be higher than in Germany, I guess.
Japan (April 2015)
PS4 1.43M
XB1 50k
Spain (Mid-September 2014)
PS4 360k
XB1 ~52k
Combined 700k as of January 2015.
Italy (December 2014, sales projection)
PS4 550k
XB1 150k
No idea how it turned out, I can't find anything more recent than 210k PS4 in June 2014.
Middle East (January 2015)
PS4 1M "soon"
XB1 ?
Australia
PS4 >200k (November 2014)
XB1 ?
Probably missed a couple. Also lost track of the LTDs in the US.
hobblygobbly
Member
I think Microsoft could get better sales if they actually advertised their console in Europe...
Who has seen an advert for Xbox in European media like on TV? It doesn't happen. In marketing terms the console doesn't even exist in Europe.
Who has seen an advert for Xbox in European media like on TV? It doesn't happen. In marketing terms the console doesn't even exist in Europe.
It's a little weird to see this as in all retail stores I've been to in the last year (really just MediaMarkt and Saturn in several towns) XO and PS4 were nearly the same in shelf space, number of available accessories and so on. I mean I know no one with an Xbox One and have never seen one outside of stores, whereas tons of people near me have PS4s, but I didn't expect the difference to be that huge.
The following things are keeping me from buying an Xbox One for its exclusives (which really really interest me):
It has features built in I won't use that, while probably not making the console cheaper if eliminated, would make me feel like I overpayed. Sony's approach with a console just for games was the right call and MS should have a SKU like that.
It isn't as practical as the PS4: While I myself would prefer a bigger console over a smaller but way louder one, I think the general consumer prefers it the exact opposite way.
Also, you can't just plug in any headphones into the XO gamepad like you can with the PS4 (even with a mic), which is a huge deal for me and I guess a LOT of people not playing in living rooms with proper setups but in bedrooms, dorms, at desks etc..
It is generally harder to justify buying both consoles now that you have to pay for online multiplayer on both.
The following things are keeping me from buying an Xbox One for its exclusives (which really really interest me):
It has features built in I won't use that, while probably not making the console cheaper if eliminated, would make me feel like I overpayed. Sony's approach with a console just for games was the right call and MS should have a SKU like that.
It isn't as practical as the PS4: While I myself would prefer a bigger console over a smaller but way louder one, I think the general consumer prefers it the exact opposite way.
Also, you can't just plug in any headphones into the XO gamepad like you can with the PS4 (even with a mic), which is a huge deal for me and I guess a LOT of people not playing in living rooms with proper setups but in bedrooms, dorms, at desks etc..
It is generally harder to justify buying both consoles now that you have to pay for online multiplayer on both.
ISee
Member
~Oliver Kaltner, the chief of Xbox division (germany), one week before XOne launched.
source
I was very curious what their plan was to increase their market share in germany by 10%... as it seems they had none.
I think, after E3 2013, the Xbox brand never recovered and most people still treat it as a american focused TV machine (with no real functionality in germany/europe) with inferior graphic capabilitys.
Fair enough.
I find myself forgetting the Wii U's first year in the market often these days...
No shit. Luxembourg wasn't even tier 2. Then again, I don't know a single person who bought an XBO back home.
Plugging the headphones to the DS4 is probably the PS4 feauture I use the most and the one I don't want them to go back on. Couldn't live without it now.
IIRC, Xbox One gets continuous deals in Germany, even consistent ones. So, this would be happening despite those deals. Is that true?
Also, seeing Mario Party 10 still in top 10 in Germany, despite its launch in late March, while Xbox One games usually go down pretty fast after the release makes me think it won't be that easy for One to reach the second place. Look at this week: MP10 8th, then SSB and Captain Toad in Top 50. Xbox One has just one game, at 24th. Surely, being released one year earlier helps in being second
Also, seeing Mario Party 10 still in top 10 in Germany, despite its launch in late March, while Xbox One games usually go down pretty fast after the release makes me think it won't be that easy for One to reach the second place. Look at this week: MP10 8th, then SSB and Captain Toad in Top 50. Xbox One has just one game, at 24th. Surely, being released one year earlier helps in being second
Wow. What a ratio.
That's exactly what happened.
But they also forgot that they had like a 16 month head start over the PS3 which sure as shit helped them get a toe in that market in the first place. 360 was out for two Christmas periods in Europe before the PS3 landed.
gigantor21
Member
LMAO XD
But seriously, though, huge gaps like this outside the US/UK serve to show why the global numbers are so lopsided. Really wondering how MS is going to tackle this.
Mass_Pincup
Banned
There's was that Titanfall ad and the one with Steven Gerrard and Spock I think, but that was last year.
TheCarrotKiller
Banned
Haha, well done!