ethomaz
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10k X 100 = 1m
Not impossible talking about WW but hard talking about July only.
Some quarters we have some estimate to Xbone shows PS4 ~3m vs Xbone ~1m (360 included) and that gives over 2m difference in three slow months.
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Germany sales update: PS4 3.25 million; Wii U 750K; XBO 710K
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Not impossible talking about WW but hard talking about July only.
Some quarters we have some estimate to Xbone shows PS4 ~3m vs Xbone ~1m (360 included) and that gives over 2m difference in three slow months.
Sure if they were released at the same time.
<- Also German
While I agree that PS4 + Wii U offers a very, very broad library of games and seems like the way-to-go I don't agree with the second statement. Yes, Xbox One has more shooters, but that's not the reason we don't buy the XBONE. We have a huge console shooter market, it just sits where most people play: On PS4. We do care about console shooters, but why bother getting both consoles when one of them is just fine?
Agree this shooter argument is so Xbox1/360.
It is pretty easy IMO why people prefer the PS4 at this point. The reason is not the NSA or the bad launch. That did play a role as several other factors, which are to many to name them. And there is much to blame on MS. However.
At this point you buy a PS4 as everybody of your friends has one, while "no one" has a Xbone. Except the nerdy friend who owns all consoles - even a WiiU.
So if you want to borrow games from your friends, play fifa/cod/destiny/bf with them online - there is actually no choice. Add to that that the Xbone is considered to have less power.
If you are not a hardcore gamer there is no point for average joe to buy the unpopular system that just has the same games in perceived lower quality.
Bruno MB
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Sorry for being so late to the party but I just noticed your message.
Here 2007 - 2010 PlayStation 3 hardware sales data.
PlayStation 3
2007 - 387,000
2008 - 501,000 / 888,000
2009 - 677,000 / 1,565,000
2010 - 661,000 / 2,226,000
http://www.bvv-medien.org/fileadmin/user_upload/businessreports/JWB2010.pdf
PlayStation 4
2013 - 260,000
2014 - 1,140,000 / 1,400,000
2015 - 1,400,000 / 2,800,000
2016 - 460,000 / 3,260,000 (by the end of 2016 LTD should be > 4,000,000 )
http://www.boerse-online.de/nachric...chland-aus-EA-bei-Spielen-Nummer-1-1001006014
http://www.boerse-online.de/nachric...soft-mit-der-PS4-in-Deutschland-ab-1001354158
mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
WOW! the PS4 is doing so much better than the PS3.
Jimmyfenix
Member
Oh wow that's a big difference
In Italy last year was something like 7 PS4 : 1 XBO/WIIU
Holy shit PS4 is disintegrate PS3 :O
Welfare
Member
Just saw this. Thank you!
Astral Dog
Member
EoW Wii U still not beaten by the Box
and people are wondering why we are not seeing high budget japanese games anymore
consoles are completely missing on that chart. Shitty naming or useless
potatohead
Member
Really don't think that even matters since the WiiU hasn't been getting many new games for a long time....
Their developers aren't giving a reason enough for Japanese people to buy consoles and the games.
That's why.
Product has to come first before people give a shit and put money on it.
If I remember correctly, that's part of the reason why Square has been making the big push they're in the middle of with Setsuna, WoFF, 15, Nier, the KH games, etc. I thought they made a statement that they were trying to help save the console industry in Japan. It's always been silly to me(mostly in 3DS vs Vita arguments) that the platform holder should be the one making the platform sell by themselves with 3rd parties coming at some arbitrary point later. It hasn't been that way in a long time. I'm interested to see if the big JRPGs coming out provides a notable and sustained boost or not.
That said, it still seems Sony is still recovering from all the crazy mismanagement stories about Sony Japan in recent years. I was really hoping that AAA JRPG came to fruition but nothing as of yet.
Triggerhappytel
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Yeah, as far as I recall the UK, France and Germany seem to have pretty similar sales numbers this gen, so I'd be interested to see how they compare. Between the three they amount to a massive proportion of the global total, do it'd be really great to see a few more Europe-centric games like Remember Me or Wheelman.
LiquidSolid
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Sony said that Germany's their most important European market in December last year, so they're obviously higher than the UK or France. Who knows by how much though,
PdotMichael
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Sony turned the European into a market so large as the North American market.
20 years later Sony still profit from it.
Yes, I've been wanting more European style and themed games for a while. I actually don't like playing so many games based in cities in the US that I've seen, especially when you have certain cities redone over and over.
Goose_Se7en
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I don't get why this is a surprise. MS has nowhere near the reach that Sony has with PlayStation. Of course NA (the United States to be specific) will always be the number one market for both MS and Sony but Sony cleans up everywhere else. It's why it was able to hang and then eclipse X360 last gen even when it launched a year after X360.
Mass_Pincup
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The PS4 sold 2.15M as of the end of 2015 in France so it's a bit behind Germany.
Ahh I remember the thread about them targeting 40% of the German market lol.
http://neogaf.com/showthread.php?t=717557
http://neogaf.com/showthread.php?t=717557
wasistdustin
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"www.boerse-online.de, 17.08.2016 15:35:00"
Old?
Old?
yes, the thread was bumped
So Germany or UK for the biggest Playstation market in EU?
Sony said germany is the new No.1 in EU (I guess they mean the amount of $$$ or the make).
Dagobert Duck
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Yet I will probably by an XBox One S end of the year at the latest, just because it got 4K Bluray support and most bundles start at 299...
I saw one with FIFA for 270 already. There should be more promotions like this after PS4 Pro hits retail.
theindieboy
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Ouch to being outsold by the WiiU but that does not look like that will last that much longer, Germany is on of the biggest Euro markets did not realise that the ps4 had that much of a lead there though thought things were a bit closer.
Come on mate this is GAF, not GameFaqs.
On topic - like others have said would love to see total sales in UK, France etc to compare.
Captain Smoker
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XBone sales suck in every European country that isn't UK.
It's on par or worse than Wii U.
Yeah i can remember. It was also a big thing in the news because some places people went full mental and even destroyed doors of stores.
That feeling when you already had it got shipped from amazon.
Dagobert Duck
Member
Yeah Im watching out for a FIFA bundle which includes two controllers, and Im all in...
And the Xbox One is significantly cheaper than the Wii U (about 100 or more recently).
It's really not a outrageos reaction to have.
Wii U is one of the worst selling home consoles of all time, without any notable software in over a year, with basically zero third party support and yet the Xbone still can't outsell it after almost 3 years on the market.
A lolworthy reaction is not unwarranted on the situation.
For Microsoft, yes. For Sony, I don't think that is or will always be the case. There are a lot of emerging markets where consoles still aren't a part of the home entertainment setup. Sony -- due to their presence in the movie, TV, and audio space -- are in the best position to make PlayStation the home entertainment device in emerging markets. Morocco, Thailand, Tunisia, Colombia -- all markets that are being viewed, by a lot of companies, as places that will produce a lot of sales.
A lot of people don't know Microsoft for anything other than Windows, Bill Gates, and Office. Xbox has very low brand recognition. The numbers in Germany tell me that Microsoft's strategy to put their exclusives on PC is a good thing for their first-party software but a bad thing for Xbox hardware. They're not really helping the Xbox brand awareness by making Xbox games non-exclusive anymore are they?
I doubt the EU sales branch of the hardware manufacturers sees it that way. Or Microsoft's UK branch when explaining why they are trailing this time around. Or anyone selling software in Europe. Or anyone who lives there.
A mindset of 'as long as MS sells OK in the US, everything's fine!' is fine for Xbox enthusiasts looking to downplay the relevance of other markets but isn't great for a business that's interested in growth in other markets but is losing gains in areas they put a lot of money/effort into a decade ago.
I think he is being facetious.
From a lot of posts on this website, the way Microsoft themselves treat the market, and the way the gaming press is heavily skewed towards US outlets, many less informed people would easily be lead to believe that the US is the utmost dominant market globally.
It is still the biggest I think, but Europe has grown substantially this generation and easily gives the US a run for its money.
foobarry81
Member
That's seems fair when you make a console that first and foremost targets the US market, no?
I mean there are people here who still think the 360 utterly destroyed the PS3, yet the PS3 outsold it worldwide every year since launch and overtook it with a year less on the market.
I really hope that with the rise of these emerging markets, we get people from those places interested in game development. I think it would be cool to get more South American, African, Middle Eastern influences in gaming.
there is no mindset like that in MS, just in forum posters.
Obviously game developers and Microsoft care about return on investment, which is dependant of overall revenues and not just one market.
As to XB1, whats surprising about that is that there are some crazy deals on XB1 + games in Germany... it is a lot more affordable than PS4.
DriftingSpirit
Member
I think PS is synonymous with gaming in some cases overseas. So, even with the deals, the general choice is to get a PS4 regardless.
This is the result of years worth of building up mindshare in those areas when the competition didn't really bother.
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