Uh, I still have mine. What are you talking about?PantherAttacks said:So no DRM = you lose your games after a couple of years?
That's sad. :/
Uh, I still have mine. What are you talking about?PantherAttacks said:So no DRM = you lose your games after a couple of years?
That's sad. :/
It means you don't loose your game at all. Ever. Unless your hard drive bites the dust, the service went down and you didn't keep a backup.PantherAttacks said:So no DRM = you lose your games after a couple of years?
That's sad. :/
durendal said:Damn. I was planning on buying Beyond Good and Evil from them.
If they return with DRM, I won't be using their new service. I don't buy from Direct 2 Drive for this reason, and I don't see how adding DRM will improve sales.
jim-jam bongs said:By allowing them to offer games which wouldn't be available otherwise because the IP holders don't believe in selling things DRM free.
so i'm guessing you don't buy from steam then? or any dd service?durendal said:If they return with DRM, I won't be using their new service. I don't buy from Direct 2 Drive for this reason
Uh, that doesn't make sense. GOG 'stored your games for you' exactly the same way Steam does. In an account on their service. Except Steam forces you to use a client and DRM. And you still have to transfer your purchases to a physical medium if you want to keep them forever/play them.Safe Bet said:The only reason I buy games on STEAM is because they store my library for me.
I have no use for a "you must transfer your purchase to some form of physical media" provider.
If I want physical media, I'll buy physical media.
I almost always download a game after buying it, unless it's a pack then I get the first of the series. Though if I'm currently playing a game, I might play it for only a bit before deleting it, and planning to re-download it when I have time for it. I don't like filling up my hard drive or burning games to disc.Victrix said:Biggest revelation in this thread: People who buy games and don't even download them
Truly we have reached a new age. We've upgraded from games in the shrinkwrap sitting on a shelf to bits sitting on a server, not downloaded.
Victrix said:Biggest revelation in this thread: People who buy games and don't even download them
Truly we have reached a new age. We've upgraded from games in the shrinkwrap sitting on a shelf to bits sitting on a server, not downloaded.
durendal said:Damn. I was planning on buying Beyond Good and Evil from them.
If they return with DRM, I won't be using their new service. I don't buy from Direct 2 Drive for this reason, and I don't see how adding DRM will improve sales.
They also had a focus on old games, many of which aren't being offered on other services. If they could get access to even more titles that aren't being offered elsewhere but had to put in DRM to do so, they would go from selling zero copies of those games to some copies. I liked the DRM free situation too, but it doesn't surprise me that not everyone shares my enthusiasm for it.durendal said:The only advantage GoG had over the competition was the DRM-free games. Why would I buy from GoG over Steam or D2D if they all have DRM? Most of the big games GoG could offer are already on Steam or D2D with DRM anyways, minus a few classics that aren't up yet.
durendal said:The only advantage GoG had over the competition was the DRM-free games. Why would I buy from GoG over Steam or D2D if they all have DRM? Most of the big games GoG could offer are already on Steam or D2D with DRM anyways, minus a few classics that aren't up yet.
This is funny, because the whole POINT of digital distribution is that if you're between computers, you can feel safe that whatever company you've purchased from will keep your games a couple clicks away. I sold my imac and built a new pc, but didn't get around to re-downloading my Tex Murphy games because I knew they were there whenever I needed it. This little episode definitely makes me think differently about it, though.Victrix said:Biggest revelation in this thread: People who buy games and don't even download them
Truly we have reached a new age. We've upgraded from games in the shrinkwrap sitting on a shelf to bits sitting on a server, not downloaded.
The official statement from GOG's management about the situation will be announced soon. We'll have more details about this tomorrow.
Victrix said:Biggest revelation in this thread: People who buy games and don't even download them
Truly we have reached a new age. We've upgraded from games in the shrinkwrap sitting on a shelf to bits sitting on a server, not downloaded.
http://translate.google.com/transla...97342,GOG_sie_zamyka__Raczej_nie.html&act=urlNote, the date of the conference is probably 22gi early Wednesday evening. Information about this soon on GOG.com (please do not panic after reading the information contained there. Please remember that this conference on-line, first organized in such a way
Virtually closed the calendar of conferences and we will send an official info about this in the Mon-Tues
http://www.neoseeker.com/news/14926-digital-pc-classics-service-good-old-games-closes/As the message on the site says, this doesn't mean GOG is gone. We'll have more to share in the coming days. No need to jump to conclusions
Biggest revelation in this thread: People who buy games and don't even download them
Truly we have reached a new age. We've upgraded from games in the shrinkwrap sitting on a shelf to bits sitting on a server, not downloaded.
GOG's downtime has kind of answered that question. If you download immediately after you pay, you don't have to worry about any future connectivity issues (on your end or theirs) to install or play your game.faceless007 said:How is it different from not having every game you own installed at one time?
Yep. They went out of the way to be sure of the compatibily unlike steamfaceless007 said:GOG also emphasized the trouble they went to to ensure compatibility with XP and Vista systems. I don't know how successful they were overall but Steam doesn't make any attempt at quality control in that regard; they put that responsibility on the publisher. I think the version of Jedi Knight on Steam is the raw installation of the original Windows 95 game which doesn't play nice with modern hardware.
Not to mention the goodies (soundtrack, wallpapers, hint guides) they included. Just saying they had other perks. But if they return with DRM I'll probably stay away too.
Heh, don't jump to conclusions they say. I'm not sure how one should otherwise react to "We're closing down the service and putting this era behind us as new challenges await."Lafazar said:There is the possibility that this is a marketing stunt to announce their move from Beta:
Polish site with a statement by Michael Kicinski:
http://polygamia.pl/Polygamia/1,107162,8397342,GOG_sie_zamyka__Raczej_nie.html
Gogle Translation:
http://translate.google.com/transla...97342,GOG_sie_zamyka__Raczej_nie.html&act=url
Neoseeker with a statement by Tom Ohle:
http://www.neoseeker.com/news/14926-digital-pc-classics-service-good-old-games-closes/
I dunno how I feel about this, it's certainly a good way to get talked about, but I nearly got a heart attack when I saw the GOG main page.
Gee, I really hope this is a marketing stunt, but if it is, it's very cruel!
I'll just laugh and move on. U:Sew said:If this is indeed a stunt, I will go from loving them dearly to not caring much for them at all.
Pretty much. I don't care about them, I care about the games they're selling DRM-free for cheapTwig said:I'll just laugh and move on. U:
b.e.r.g said:
Greed, greed from publishers and greedy pirates is all that's left
Oh? I've always seen stealing as a form of greed...subversus said:they're not greedy (no money from torrents), they're just stupid.
subversus said:they're not greedy (no money from torrents), they're just stupid.
Yes, it really doesn't make sense if you think about it. They had a weekend promo going which was interrupted. This is a strong indicator of outside influence.Dragmire said:Omg, stop being butthurt when no one even knows what's going on. I highly doubt this is a grand ruse to fool you all. It could be a crappy solution to a crappy situation. I don't think they're doing it for fun.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=23420772&postcount=385Stop It said:This'll be my last post here as frankly, you guys are all obsessed with the idea of this being a stunt that you can't see how fucked up this situation really is.
http://www.bankier.pl/inwestowanie/profile/quote.html?symbol=OPTIMUS&format=detailed
I'll post this again, as the trading value (Market Cap) has been ignored (even by me) up until now. According to this, Optimus (Who own CDP I can say with utmost certainty now), have a market value of less than $6million. Even with the recent lift in their share price this company is utterly worthless. The reason? Before they bought CDP, Optimus racked up some serious debt, and took on even more to buy CDP, this has left them in a major hole financially.
As stated above, last week Optimus sold 3.5million shares and has tried to re-jig the company to transfer their debt to something less unstable, this has triggered an EGM (For this Wednesday) which on it's own, would be unexciting. However, someone appears to have bought all the shares in one block and are using their new power to force Optimus to change their company strategy. This investor is at the moment, unknown but will be revealed at the company EGM.
My opinion is that this mystery investor has called for GOG to be totally changed, possibly to have DRM introduced and to change their business model completely. This leads me to believe the investor is a publisher, but I am not sure who, but there are signs that MAY be pointing to Atari SA, CD Projekt's long term publisher partner in Europe.
http://twitter.com/GOGcom/status/24772660481Sometimes it's really hard being DRM-free... hard to keep things the way they are and keep management and publishers happy
hamchan said:Fuck them if this is a publicity stunt.
I would!trinest said:I wouldn't mind if they go for a Steam sort of system.
Just cause I said DD was the future :lolLafazar said:I would!
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How would that be profitable? They'd have to pay royalties to both Valve and the IP holders of the games they're selling.wmat said:You know, GOG would be quite a fit for Steam. I mean, they could partner up, sell their games through Steam, share the 30% and shit.
Well, I think you are right with that. I had just hoped, that DRM-free DD would be the future.trinest said:Just cause I said DD was the future :lol
I'm thinking of an actual partnership, where royalties and profits are both split. Or more elaborately, determine the percentage of royalties by profit per shop. So GOG sells at its homepage and via Steam; a sale at homebase means royalty *1, a sale at Steam means royalty *.5 per unit for GOG. For Valve, it means royalty *0 for GOG-homebase sales, royalty *.5 per unit for Steam sales. (This isn't an actual model, of course, just some numbers)Easy_D said:How would that be profitable? They'd have to pay royalties to both Valve and the IP holders of the games they're selling.
itxaka said:I am still unable to play jade empire. On my other pc there is no mouse visible. This was like throwing 10 into a bin
Lafazar said:Well, I think you are right with that. I had just hoped, that DRM-free DD would be the future.
It would be really sad if GOG were to change to a DRM-only business model...
Not for the same catalogue, porting awesomeness, generally stable prices etcarstal said:There's still Impulse and Gamersgate. Also, there are plenty of indy developerrs who refuse to use DRM.
GOG really isn't that important in the grand scheme of things. I liked them, but there were other, and usually cheaper options.
wmat said:Not for the same catalogue, porting awesomeness, generally stable prices etc
That's not true. They were important because they promoted DD without DRM, something no one else did (talking about publishers here)!arstal said:There's still Impulse and Gamersgate. Also, there are plenty of indy developerrs who refuse to use DRM. I'm not that worried about this in the grand scheme of things.
GOG really isn't that important in the grand scheme of things. I liked them, but there were other, and usually cheaper options.
I'm not actually complaining about anything.arstal said:True on some really old games. Most of the popular GOG games have Impulse or Gamersgate version, often both.
Porting - I think it's the same on all of them.
Stable Prices- they usually matched GOG- then had sales on occasion.
Outside of the catalog issue, I don't see what you're complaining about, and catalog could be fixed.
Sew said:If this is indeed a stunt, I will go from loving them dearly to not caring much for them at all.