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[spwolf]

i'm not saying it should be free, but, again, paying 30-40 for a small portion of the game is not something i'd support

it is a bit dumb to call 40 cars, 4 tracks, Online MP, true SP, "small portion of the game".

I played GT4 for 2 months, and I played with 4-5 cars on 2-3 tracks, mostly, without online mode.

Yes, I would love it to be free. I would love PS3 to be free. But I am not going to put it down just because I wish it was free.... I cant wait for GT

 

[zsidane]

Dear Sony, please don't release this game until I can afford an 1080p HDTV and a PS3.
And thank you very much for the HDD, it will save me an official sony memory card.
Respectfully.

 

[Killthee]

I refuse to consider Prologue as a demo. GT:HD was a demo. Prologue is a full-fledge game. Thats how it has always been. GTrologue will have 40 cars and 4 race tracks (8 different configurations). Some games don't even have more than 30 cars and they still charge full-price.

I refuse to consider it anything other than an awesome GT5 demo. Just because this demo has more features than some full games does not mean that it should be classified as a full game. GT5: Prologue is a demonstration/sneak peak/preview of whats to come in GT5. That to me sounds like a demo.

 

[drohne]

For instance, it the Ferrari F430 you can appreciate the shine off the carbon fiber and the quality of the black leather seats. You can tell the quality difference in the leather of the Ferrari versus other cars.

this is living!

 

[Crayon Shinchan]

I refuse to consider it anything other than an awesome GT5 demo. Just because this demo has more features than some full games does not mean that it should be classified as a full game. GT5: Prologue is a demonstration/sneak peak/preview of whats to come in GT5. That to me sounds like a demo.

GT Prologues are what they are.

They're not full games, that much is obvious, but neither are they simply demos.

They're commercial previews for hardcore fans and people interested enough to pony up $40.

What's so hard to understand about that?

 

[Marko_Baomoro]

:Q___ _ _

 

[Tideas]

there will no way in hell GT5 Prologue is gonna be free, or even $10, or even $20.

See, the easiest solutoin is, if you don't like the price, vote with your wallet. Don't buy it. Instead of bitching why it's so expensive, just don't buy it.

 

[hukasmokincaterpillar]

GT Prologues are what they are.

They're not full games, that much is obvious, but neither are they simply demos.

They're commercial previews for hardcore fans and people interested enough to pony up $40.

What's so hard to understand about that?

Yep. Prologue has always been for the nutters that want an early crack at the game. If folks want to pay for a sneak preview thats on them (and there's been a lot of them). I've never had a problem waiting for the full game... although this time it'll be pretty tempting (assuming it's in the $30 range).

 

[bud]

it is a bit dumb to call 40 cars, 4 tracks, Online MP, true SP, "small portion of the game".

I played GT4 for 2 months, and I played with 4-5 cars on 2-3 tracks, mostly, without online mode.

Yes, I would love it to be free. I would love PS3 to be free. But I am not going to put it down just because I wish it was free.... I cant wait for GT

plz read before you respond

 

[Killthee]

GT Prologues are what they are.

They're not full games, that much is obvious, but neither are they simply demos.

They're commercial previews for hardcore fans and people interested enough to pony up $40.

What's so hard to understand about that?

I get that and agree with it.

I refuse to consider it anything other than an awesome GT5 demo.

What I didn't get and was responding to was shagg_187 calling it a full game.

I refuse to consider Prologue as a demo. GT:HD was a demo. Prologue is a full-fledge game. Thats how it has always been.

 

[ThirdEye]

GT Prologues are what they are.

They're not full games, that much is obvious, but neither are they simply demos.

They're commercial previews for hardcore fans and people interested enough to pony up $40.

What's so hard to understand about that?

It's a full game, in the same sense that the online-only Warhawk can be called a full game.

 

[Crayon Shinchan]

What I didn't get and was responding to was shagg_187 calling it a full game.

They can be considered full games in the sense they provide as much value to some gamers as other full games do, and that they include functionality and value far beyond what any demo allows for.

But they're obviously not the complete GT games.

 

[Rice-Eater]

I wouldn't say that.

Look at Wipeout HD and SOCOM HD. Both are not true next gen games, and both are downloadable. They are meant only to bridge the gap between the last gen and next gen games. They'll go for $30-40 if the Warhawk pricing is anything to go by.

Now GT Prologue. It's very much a next-gen game, with all of the next gen features. BUT it's lacking in content. Now, with that analogy, we can assume that GTP will range in the $20 area...and really, why shouldn't it? It ABSOLUTELY wont be free. Do I hope I'm wrong, absolutely, but let's be serious here...this is a product that could justify a decent price.

Whoa there, their is no way in hell Wipeout HD should cost $30-$40. It's a beefed up PSP game like Gripshift and should cost no more then $20. Socom: Confrontation isn't Socom HD, it's built from ground up on the PS3. It may be a quick one year job, but it's not a port of any of the old games(only 1 map is remade, the rest are new). Now that I can see them charging $30-$40 for if it has enough content to warrant the price.

But I do agree with your guess for GT: Prologue, it should be $20 only. That much content doesn't warrant a price that Warhawk(and maybe Socom: Confrontation) has. Especially when compared to the final game that will probably tons more cars, tracks, options, and content.

 

[AltogetherAndrews]

Whoa there, their is no way in hell Wipeout HD should cost $30-$40. It's a beefed up PSP game like Gripshift and should cost no more then $20.

Uh, have you seen Wipeout HD?

 

[GreggTheGrimReaper]

TTIWWP.

 

[Rice-Eater]

Uh, have you seen Wipeout HD?

Yes I've seen it, and I think it looks amazing. But that doesn't change the fact that it's a remake of a year old game that's a GH product now. When I said that I didn't mean it as a bad thing, but still that's what it is.

 

[AltogetherAndrews]

Yes I've seen it, and I think it looks amazing. But that doesn't change the fact that it's a remake of a year old game that's a GH product now. When I said that I didn't mean it as a bad thing, but still that's what it is.

Do we even know what it is a remake of? Honest question, I haven't seen any PR that details what it actually contains. If it's just a Pure remake, then sure, it probably shouldn't be priced all that high. But if it's a general Wipeout HD experience, with track designs from earlier Wipeout games, then I'd view it as a Best Of, and I'd consider that when judging the pricing scheme.

 

[Rice-Eater]

Do we even know what it is a remake of? Honest question, I haven't seen any PR that details what it actually contains. If it's just a Pure remake, then sure, it probably shouldn't be priced all that high. But if it's a general Wipeout HD experience, with track designs from earlier Wipeout games, then I'd view it as a Best Of, and I'd consider that when judging the pricing scheme.

You know, I don't know that for sure either. But that's what I've seen a lot of people say around here, so I assumed it was true.

But anyways, I don't think GT: Prologue shouldn't cost anymore then $20. It just seems crazy if it cost half as much as the full game which will have a hundred times more of everything.

 

[Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew]

Just a reminder, GT4 Prologue sold for 2980 Yen. That's around $25 US and almost/exactly half price of retail version of GT4.

 

[AltogetherAndrews]

You know, I don't know that for sure either. But that's what I've seen a lot of people say around here, so I assumed it was true.

But anyways, I don't think GT: Prologue shouldn't cost anymore then $20. It just seems crazy if it cost half as much as the full game which will have a hundred times more of everything.

The way that might work though is if it falls under paying more for the privilege of getting this early preview sampler. That may not be the proper way of doing things, but at the same time it's pretty commonplace. Hell, I've paid ridiculous amounts of money for advance copies of certain music CD in my day, and while the price point may have been somewhat annoying, that annoyance was offset by the sheer enjoyment of hearing the stuff early and, perhaps embarrassingly, before other people.

 

[Grayman]

The interm versions of GT probably sold better than most full games.

It sounds realy good and i'm looking foward to trying it out on a mates PS3 since I do not own one, I seriously hope they include the Autum Ring, best GT track ever.

Special Stage Route 11(GT1) wants to have a word with you out back.

My guess:

La Sarthe (seen in Audi demo)
Suzuka (seen in E3 demo)
London (shown as some kind of photo mode location)
Tokyo (talked about in various articles)

Suzuka makes sense because it can hold two or three sub tracks.
I would hope for the nurburgring but that would be pushing it for prologue.

 

[TTP]

Do we have an official confirmation this will be a PSN only title? Or is there the possibility of this being released a la Warhawk (both PSN and BD)?

 

[Wollan]

I'm not sure about confirmation but they have never ever mentioned a Blu-ray version to my knowledge.

 

[arias]

I'm not sure about confirmation but they have never ever mentioned a Blu-ray version to my knowledge.

If they want GT5 to sell PS3s; it better be on Blu-Ray.

Bundled, too.

 

[seattle6418]

Yamauchi had mentioned that there would be two sets of 'physics' levels. I hope there's a significant improvement because i can't play GT4 as it is.

Also i hope that they've re-recorded the sounds, particularly the tire sounds.

I still get the feeling that all the updates in the games are purely cosmetically. There hasn't been any inquiry into hte technical aspects of the game (will tire wear be more realistic, gas consumption, will the temp of the cars be affected this time, will cars at least get dirty, rain, snow, donuts, AHHHHHHHHHHHH!)

amen.

and a revamped carrear mode. smarter AI. more tuning options. telemetry, more sim aspects, maybe a professional mode only for hardcores...

let's see, it looks good so far, i hope my favorite series of all time delivers

 

[TTP]

If they want GT5 to sell PS3s; it better be on Blu-Ray.

Bundled, too.

Indeed. Such a big franchise. Wouldn't make sense as a download-only product.

 

[Grayman]

Indeed. Such a big franchise. Wouldn't make sense as a download-only product.

The old disc releases never came out in north america even...

 

[Yoboman]

Indeed. Such a big franchise. Wouldn't make sense as a download-only product.

It'd be very smart for Sony to have both GT5 Prologue and SOCOM Confrontation out on retail shelves this year

Even if they're stop gap products, they could easily do a million or more

 

[Wollan]

If they do a disc version what should they bundle it with? I'm guessing the PSN version will sell for 39$.
They could release the retail version for the same price unbundled though.

Kinda ot but they should slap a Home sticker on every PS3 console box.

 

[Kittonwy]

Indeed. Such a big franchise. Wouldn't make sense as a download-only product.

Bundle maybe?

 

[Yoboman]

If they do a disc version what should they bundle it with? I'm guessing the PSN version will sell for 39$.
They could release the retail version for the same price unbundled though.

Kinda ot but they should slap a Home sticker on every PS3 console box.

They don't have to bundle anything, and I'm guessing it'll be cheaper than Warhawk anyway

 

[Wollan]

I doubt the value of the game itself is cheaper. I'm pretty sure it will turn out to be 39$ now with Warhawk having set that standard. It has 40 (extremely detailed) cars and it has online. 4 tracks is probably a little less than people would want out of it but you have all the tuning options (revealed in this thread) and you have the Home connectivity, schedule planner, online replays, photo album... all that jazz. They will definitely sell it for 39$.

 

[Yoboman]

I doubt the value of the game itself is cheaper. I'm pretty sure it will turn out to be 39$ now with Warhawk having set that standard. It has 40 (extremely detailed) cars and it has online. 4 tracks is probably a little less than people would want out of it but you have all the tuning options (revealed in this thread) and you have the Home connectivity, schedule planner, online replays, photo album... all that jazz. They will definitely sell it for 39$.

It's the next step from last Prologue, I see no reason for it to cost more

 

[Baby Milo]

will this be available in the US?

just asking because the other ones werent released here

 

[Wollan]

Guaranteed. It's a worldwide release and if it follows the pattern of GTHD it might be a simultaneous release (excluding delayed EU PS3 release). It releases in Japan October 24th apparently.

 

[AnIco]

The old disc releases never came out in north america even...

Reading some of the comments here, it's eminently understandable as to why SCEA never released either GT: Concept or GT4: Prologue in North America.

 

[nofi]

Reading some of the comments here, it's eminently understandable as to why SCEA never released either GT: Concept or GT4: Prologue in North America.

Exactly. I don't know where people come from to assume that they should get a fully functional mini-version of a game for free... Mars?

 

[Raistlin]

Porn stickers on Ferrari dashboard confirmed.


...Seriously, I'm curious by what "fully" means. What is there to even change for interiors?

Not sure about racing cars, but all of the standard car models will probably offer the real interior variants you can get. They use the real paint colors for exterior options (with the real manufactures 'interesting' names) ... offering the real interior options is the logical extension.

 

[cilonen]

Not sure about racing cars, but all of the standard car models will probably offer the real interior variants you can get. They use the real paint colors for exterior options (with the real manufactures 'interesting' names) ... offering the real interior options is the logical extension.

I'm wondering if you'll be able to get some of the bespoke features that, say Lamborghini, Ferrari and Mercedes-AMG will let you have if you go to them with enough cash. I know Ferrari will let you have the leather in your new Fiorano 599 any color you want it as long as you can pay.

Edit: I know this thanks to the Discovery Channel, not having bought a 599 recently

 

[sleeping_dragon]

Most likely like said earlier in that racing cars and rally cars will take damage (in races that obviously only include those cars).

I think that is a very smart decision because that is like shooting two birds with one stone - they want to tease us with their damage engine only on sport cars and rally cars and if it prove groundbreaking and popular with fans then for sure GT6 is where full on damage on every cars will be present. Put in another word if all cars in GT5 have damage then what is there to be anticipated about GT6 -im sure the leaps in term of grahic, physics and AI from GT5 to GT6 will not be as huge as the leap from GT4 to GT5. So in conclusion, PD has made a very good choice to include only some damage on some car to make us wonder what the damage engine of GT6 will be.