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Guild Wars 2 News And Information Thread [Large Beta Weekends In March/April]
- Thread starter Jira
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Yeah, but I'd question how you define "main" if it's very likely that the average player will spend more time on world events than total on personal story missions. They still make up the majority of the content, but the personal story is the mechanic used to lead the player into them.
Lazy Jones
Member
So you think the semi-open beta will last from march/april to november/december?
It will be summer at the latest.
So glad to hear a release date will be this year, and an open beta in a few months.
I've been getting that MMO itch again, wanting to play a game with a living world again, persistant, others around to help, etc etc. I resubbed to WoW just for something to do, but it's just past the point of no return, I need something.
TOR has me itching to play it, just because the universe appeals to me so much and the sci-fi setting would be a great change of pace, but hearing how Guild Wars 2 is changing so many MMO cliches has me so excited for this. And it'll likely run well on my current laptop! woo.
I've been getting that MMO itch again, wanting to play a game with a living world again, persistant, others around to help, etc etc. I resubbed to WoW just for something to do, but it's just past the point of no return, I need something.
TOR has me itching to play it, just because the universe appeals to me so much and the sci-fi setting would be a great change of pace, but hearing how Guild Wars 2 is changing so many MMO cliches has me so excited for this. And it'll likely run well on my current laptop! woo.
I don't think they're idiotic as Bioware to try and put the beta so close to the release and rush the stupid game with little change. After all the information they've received from the beta, which I think will go from Late March into Mid-April, they will do some more tweaking, finesing and prep it up for a Q3 or Q4 launch.
Castor Krieg
Banned
Didn't SWTOR beta weekends (along with other permanent beta) start in August? That's 4 months of constant tests before release. Bioware dropped the ball because they changed very little, even with feedback.
Sorry, I guess I should've specified, while their beta was long I don't think it helped them any. They ran it until basically a week before launch and didn't do anything about it. Anet, or I expect them to, will do a better job and probably cut it off and have a long window of coding and working out to do.
Warrior_Keoni
Member
Yep, made my day reading the entire message from O'Brien.
BattleMonkey
Member
Having played the beta for many months, they did fix a ton of things and continually added. The main issue with TOR is that many major things that people wanted were not even in the beta and didn't make it for launch.
Complistic
Member
Would you guys consider playing what you're planning on being your main in the beta or would you experiment a little bit with other races/classes if you got in?
They should qualify at least some spots in the beta for GW1 fans. Like put in your GW1 user name as part of a sign-up form. Get a nice split of old hat PvP/elite-PvE based on tracking. That will make the beta testing that much more efficient. Ratio of new players with no GW1 experience is balanced into the equation.
...e.g. gimme beta ANET.
...e.g. gimme beta ANET.
I'll play everything and harass PvP.
This is perfect.
LowParry
Member
I tend to try out every class to lvl 10.
Lazy Jones
Member
I'd try different races to determine which I will play. Right now I'm thinking either Asura, female Sylvari, or male Charr.
Planning on going full alt-oholic during beta to help inform my decisions for the actual release. Probably going to remake my favorite human Ranger and Elementalist from GW1, but other characters are anyone's guess.
Just so you know, I hate you.
I would've hated to see how TOR was in early stages of the beta then. Regardless, I'm trying to say Anet is most likely not going to pull the same shennanigans as Bioware with Guild Wars 2.
Oh the joy! I can't believe it, finally, after so many years we are so close, oh man, my heart, i just hope to have more luck and have an invite not like with DOTA2, give me a beta invite arena.net, PLEASE ;_ ;
Complistic said:
I will mix classes/races and try everything of the classes, doing a focus on Elementalist and Mesmer that will be my mains, oh man, gotta finish a few project that i have to commit to the game fully.
I'd rather experiment but playing the main isn't out of the question. Each time you go through the events will differ greatly so you probably will enjoy it just as much a 2nd time.
Watch that video I quoted that Jira originally posted. It explains dynamic events in detail, problems they had with them and how they got around them.
It's broken up into sections, so it's extremely easy to watch 10 minutes here and there. But really, watch it.
The difference between rift events and dynamic events is pretty big. Rift events in Rift are secondary, with them just being a minor annoyance to people wanting to do the meat of the game - quests. Dynamic events are the bulk of the content in GW2, outside of the personal story (which is the primary leveling experience).
Arenanet stated a while ago that the open beta will be very short, 2 weeks if i remember correctly. They weren't going to have one at all until high demand from the fans and it's pretty much solely for publicity and to give people a chance to try out the game, an eloborate demo if you will.
The fact that they are opening up the closed beta 'aggresively' in march/april pretty much means the open beta will begin early april and i can put money on the game being released at the end of april/early may. You heard it here first guys, don't forget to quote me when i'm inevitably right!
The fact that they are opening up the closed beta 'aggresively' in march/april pretty much means the open beta will begin early april and i can put money on the game being released at the end of april/early may. You heard it here first guys, don't forget to quote me when i'm inevitably right!
FlappyHands
Neo Member
This is genuinely one of the games I'm most looking forward to this year. Hell, I even installed the original and jumped in for the first time in a long time just in some attempt to ready myself.
Arenanet stated a while ago that the open beta will be very short, 2 weeks if i remember correctly. They weren't going to have one at all until high demand from the fans and it's pretty much solely for publicity and to give people a chance to try out the game, an eloborate demo if you will.
The fact that they are opening up the closed beta 'aggresively' in march/april pretty much means the open beta will begin early april and i can put money on the game being released at the end of april/early may. You heard it here first guys, don't forget to quote me when i'm inevitably right!
I'd believe it. One can only assume that ANet's internal testing has been extremely robust leading up to this point, so I don't imagine there would be any huge changes left to be made by the time open beta starts.
Arenanet stated a while ago that the open beta will be very short, 2 weeks if i remember correctly. They weren't going to have one at all until high demand from the fans and it's pretty much solely for publicity and to give people a chance to try out the game, an eloborate demo if you will.
The fact that they are opening up the closed beta 'aggresively' in march/april pretty much means the open beta will begin early april and i can put money on the game being released at the end of april/early may. You heard it here first guys, don't forget to quote me when i'm inevitably right!
I think you're partially right. Right now the NDA is still up on closed beta but I think the Open Beta for the press in February is supposed to get a lot of content out there whether it be articles, videos, or whatever. That's a lot of marketing, PR stuff, and other advertisement. Also during this time I think Anet wants a lot of feedback from the gaming press about what's really working and what needs work. The public open beta will start in late March until what I assume to be Early or late April. At this time the beta will end and see if the issues really are issues or just preferences. By now I assume many of the fundamentals and core mechanics are already set in stone, they just need to chisel it to make perfect. While this is sort of a publicity/marketing stunt, I think it's much more than that. They're definitely nearing the point where they want to show the majority of the content set for GW2 but they're not there yet.
Wrong about the release date and open but I essentially called it.
.... YES. 2012 really is the last year we'll all spend on earth; this sucker is gonna pull us all in.
I still have absolutely no idea what profession I want to play, period; all of them look interesting to me. I tend to favor heavily armored melee classes, so Warrior or Guardian jump out immediately (especially guardians since I tend towards the supportive nature of Paladins)... but all of the other professions look amazing as well.
I tend not to enjoy caster classes, so if there's any professions that I'm pretty sure I won't play, it's Elementalist and Necromancer. Not too crazy about ranged classes in general, but we'll see if the Ranger lures me in.
The wife is FINALLY interested in the game enough that I have a commitment she'll be picking it up, so whatever profession she picks (she prefers casters) I will likely pick something to compliment it. Here's hoping the Necromancer can slip into a support role, she LOVED Vanguard's Blood Mage class and if they manage to sneak something like that into GW2 she'd flip out. Too bad I haven't seen anything solid on it yet.
I still have absolutely no idea what profession I want to play, period; all of them look interesting to me. I tend to favor heavily armored melee classes, so Warrior or Guardian jump out immediately (especially guardians since I tend towards the supportive nature of Paladins)... but all of the other professions look amazing as well.
I tend not to enjoy caster classes, so if there's any professions that I'm pretty sure I won't play, it's Elementalist and Necromancer. Not too crazy about ranged classes in general, but we'll see if the Ranger lures me in.
The wife is FINALLY interested in the game enough that I have a commitment she'll be picking it up, so whatever profession she picks (she prefers casters) I will likely pick something to compliment it. Here's hoping the Necromancer can slip into a support role, she LOVED Vanguard's Blood Mage class and if they manage to sneak something like that into GW2 she'd flip out. Too bad I haven't seen anything solid on it yet.
â Narayan
Member
YESSSSSSS!!!!
Complistic
Member
I know I'm going to be so disappointing by PvP.
I dunno, enormous castle sieges with hundreds of players and multiple other events happening around you to give you options in how you want to aid in the battle sounds amazing. Plus you can just drop in and out between pve and pvp practically seamlessly.
That's not to mention structured pvp which they even put a server browser in for. Gonna be great.
Yeah.. looks and sounds the most promising PvP since DAoC. With the tournament ladders and everything else on top in competitive PvP, I'm not sure what you're disappointed about?
Ganking/spontaneous PvP on the normal world map is the only prominent type of PvP it doesn't have.
The move towards the FPS style with PvP.
I only play "structured" PvP. I want an entire team or sub-team to be on voice chat coordinating. If your players have the talent, you then can succeed. So if any of the modes offer that, then I'm good. That includes large scale battles as long as it is properly "structured." How will these modes end up? We'll see. Anything chaotic or disorganized though is an immediate pass.
Fine Ham Abounds
Member
*begins drooling uncontrollably upon contemplating sooner than expected large scale beta*
Littlegator
Banned
Dang, this puts a stricter time limit on getting GWAMM than expected.
Don't forget all the HOM things and all transferrable titles, like GAWMM, can be acquired even after GW2's release.
Complistic
Member
Their business model is consistently adding expansions that add both pve and pvp content so I wouldn't be surprised at all to see some of the things you guys are concerned about be added down the road. And you know the new campaigns are coming because they just won't make enough money otherwise.
There's three sorts of pvp I think at release, that's wvwvw, 10 v 10 and the thirds called structured 5v5 and that's where you'll get your team chat ultra coordination games.
Yeah. I admit that i will miss this to an extent as i've always loved open world pvp/ganking but WvWvW is almost the same considering the number of players and size of the maps.
You dislike the move towards FPS style PvP? I don't think that really coincides with wanting it to be skill based.. the fact that the combat is much more responsive and tactical allows more room for skilled players to excell as opposed to the average whack-a-mole MMO combat.
In terms of WvWvW combat, it will sure as hell be chaotic and no doubt unbalanced which Arenanet are well aware of, but there is nothing to stop you organising your guild to seige a castle and hold it off from foes. As stated in my point above, for example, if your guild party are 50 strong and you are holding off a castle against 100, with the right amount of tactics and communication there is no reason for you not to succeed. It will be great fun either way.
Littlegator
Banned
Yeah, but who wants to farm titles when GW2 is out?
Anything that doesn't come day1 loses a ton of steam. I'm aware of the modes but the play-style is the concern.
That's wrong. Moving the style towards FPS style doesn't not automatically entail more skill based gameplay. Build wars gets a bad stigma because people incorrectly assume it is a game of math. Tactical skill usage is not objectively simpler then the shown FPS style. They are both simply different. And the concern is not about skill based gameplay but coordination. Different styles entail different types of possible coordination. The general idea being that poor map spacing and very fast paced gameplay will lower coordination. It is a valid concern.
I'm not discounting any mode as being unable to have organized gameplay. Again, it comes down to how the play-style works with it. In GW1, every tactical action was coordinated in high level play. If GW2 is more about player observations rather then strats, it is a step down in coordination.In terms of WvWvW combat, it will sure as hell be chaotic and no doubt unbalanced which Arenanet are well aware of, but there is nothing to stop you organising your guild to seige a castle and hold it off from foes. As stated in my point above, for example, if your guild party are 50 strong and you are holding off a castle against 100, with the right amount of tactics and communication there is no reason for you not to succeed. It will be great fun either way.
Littlegator
Banned
But, in majority opinion, more fun.