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[Bragr]

This one is actually worth watching.

It was featured at a film festival or something, people like it a lot. Comes out next month in cinemas and on Netflix in December.

93 on Metacritic right now, even if it's only 7 reviews so far.

Guillermo del Toro's Pinocchio (2022) ⭐ 7.6 | Animation, Adventure, Comedy

1h 57m | PG

www.imdb.com

Guillermo Del Toro’s Pinocchio

Guillermo del Toro reinvents Carlo Collodi's classic tale of the wooden marionette who is magically brought to life in order to mend the heart of a grieving woodcarver named Geppetto. This whimsical, stop-motion musical directed by Guillermo del Toro and Mark Gustafson follows the mischievous...

www.metacritic.com

 

[NeoIkaruGAF]

Ewwwww that framerate.

Spoiler

looks good, but the trailer spoils literally nothing

 

[Skifi28]

Ewwwww that framerate.

Yeah, I think I'll wait for a patch or the next-gen remaster.

 

[Trazyn the Infinite]

Looks absolutely brilliant. A true passion project.

I miss when Disney had passion.

 

[DKehoe]

It was featured at a film festival or something

 

[Ironbunny]

Ewwwww that framerate.

Thank god for 4090 and DLSS 3.0

 

[Spukc]

Ewwwww that framerate.

Spoiler

looks good, but the trailer spoils literally nothing

don't watch trailers

 

[Pegasus Actual]

Now they're making 15 fps console-exclusive movies?

 

[JayK47]

Looks interesting. I love Guillermo del Toro's work. Also a fan of stop motion animation. However, I won't subscribe to Netflix to watch it.

 

[Werewolf Jones]

Just watch A Tree of Palme instead. No doubt he probably snatched from anime again.

 

[poppabk]

Just watch A Tree of Palme instead. No doubt he probably snatched from anime again.

Yeah best to go the original source for a movie about a wooden puppet brought to life on an odyssey to find out what it means to be alive.

 

[Kadve]

Now they're making 15 fps console-exclusive movies?

Looks like they are trying to invoke Stop-motion. Which of course is ruined by the fact that it isn't.

 

[GnomeChimpsky]

Man this makes the Disney version look even worse. Robert Zemeckis should just retire.

 

[Outlier]

Spoiler

looks good, but the trailer spoils literally nothing

But? Is that a bad thing?

 

[AV]

Looks like they are trying to invoke Stop-motion. Which of course is ruined by the fact that it isn't.

What? It absolutely is, which is why it looks so incredible. Del Toro is a real filmmaker.

 

[kruis]

Looks like they are trying to invoke Stop-motion. Which of course is ruined by the fact that it isn't.

 

[Kadve]

What? It absolutely is, which is why it looks so incredible. Del Toro is a real filmmaker.

Wow. Then take my statement as a compliment. Its so good that you think its CG!

 

[AV]

Wow. Then take my statement as a compliment. Its so good that you think its CG!

Indeed, he even did an interview where he said that modern advances in technology meant that that stop-motion today can look TOO good, and they wanted to avoid that by not making the motion too smooth or anything.

Regardless of the content of the film - although Del Toro makes beautiful films anyway - it's an absolute work of art.

 

[Whitecrow]

I'll watch it. Looks like it will deliver.

But yeah, smoothness is not there. Fortunately I know the hidden secret to that which half of GAF doesnt know.

Spoiler

Brains (the sane ones) adapt after a while.

 

[jufonuk]

Yeah best to go the original source for a movie about a wooden puppet brought to life on an odyssey to find out what it means to be alive.

Read the book it’s based on and use your head movies. Like simple jack

 

[phaedrus]

Wow. Then take my statement as a compliment. Its so good that you think its CG!

 

[kruis]

Wow. Then take my statement as a compliment. Its so good that you think its CG!

CG animated movies have deeply influenced other forms of animation. Modern stop motion and traditionally animated movies also use CG behind the scenes to enhance the visuals. See for instance ...

 

[TrueLegend]

His movies look beautiful aesthetically and sound amazing. If you wanna do a study on what a passionately crafted movie looks like and what studio driven by the number checklist crossed movie looks like just watch original pacific rim and then the sequel....the difference of visual impact is like night and day.

 

[ResilientBanana]

CG animated movies have deeply influenced other forms of animation. Modern stop motion and traditionally animated movies also use CG behind the scenes to enhance the visuals. See for instance ...

WOW

 

[Stitch]

I'll watch it. Looks like it will deliver.

But yeah, smoothness is not there. Fortunately I know the hidden secret to that which half of GAF doesnt know.

Spoiler

Brains (the sane ones) adapt after a while.

just turn motion smoothing on. also makes 30 fps feel like 60 fps

 

[kondorBonk]

I'm such a sucker for stop motion. I love that we have Del Toro and Wes Anderson play in the medium.

Obviously the real thing reigns supreme and thankfully we have companies like Laika. At the same time it's fun to think how exactly you could go about emulating it with CG. I was really impressed with WorthiKids:

They seem to have nailed the "feel" of old stop motion. Frame rate, grain, the 2d animated transitions, building out seperate models for lip movement instead of shape keys, scaling the scene and lightsource to look more like a studio, keeping the textures at a consisent size to mimic real world material, the ruffling of cloth like its being manipulated each frame, strings on anything floating, etc.

 

[DeepEnigma]

just turn motion smoothing on. also makes 30 fps feel like 60 fps

 

[Bragr]

I'm such a sucker for stop motion.

Ever watched the goat?

 

[Revolutionary]

Just finished watching it. What a wonderful and masterfully done rendition of Pinocchio. Makes Disney's live action abomination look like complete and utter trash (which it is).

 

[Heimdall_Xtreme]

Just watch A Tree of Palme instead. No doubt he probably snatched from anime again.

You remind me that the ending song of a tree of palme is beautiful.

 

[RaduN]

The stop motion is very good. They also implemented motion-capture, which is mind blowing.

The movie however, did nothing for me. Much better of course than the other, but still not that great.

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

Disney/Pixar at the bottom of the barrel.

 

[TheGreatMusashi]

Neanderthal children?

I’ll leave my two “icy hot stuntaz” with their mother while I watch this alone, in peace.

Thanks for the heads up.

 

[Pejo]

Watched this tonight with the gf. She hates stop motion stuff, it gives her some weird nausea issues, but she just would lay down and stare a different direction and listen to the voice acting. She enjoyed that piece of it, and I thought the visuals were really fantastic. Otherworldly sometimes, beautiful sometimes, etc.

It was a really good version of the story, touched on some darker/mature themes, but handled it well enough. Probably one of my favorite animated films in quite a while. Worth a watch.

 

[Toons]

I will probably check it out one of these days. Didnt really get rhe hate campaign for the last one either but I didnt watch it, and I haven't seen the original in a very long time so I don't even remember the plot.

 

[kurisu_1974]

It's not made for neanderthal children, but as an adult I didn't feel it was made for me either.

So who was this made for?

 

[Giallo Corsa]

Watched this tonight with the gf. She hates stop motion stuff, it gives her some weird nausea issues, but she just would lay down and stare a different direction and listen to the voice acting. She enjoyed that piece of it, and I thought the visuals were really fantastic. Otherworldly sometimes, beautiful sometimes, etc.

It was a really good version of the story, touched on some darker/mature themes, but handled it well enough. Probably one of my favorite animated films in quite a while. Worth a watch.

You're right man but...I bailed at the 3rd song, I just can't , I hate musicals with a passion and while I wouldn't necessarily categorize this as a musical, the songs just made me cringe.
Same thing happened to me with Burton's Sweeney Todd, I wanted to watch that movie so bad but the constant singing just turned me off, shame as the art-direction is beautiful/well-made.

 

[Pejo]

You're right man but...I bailed at the 3rd song, I just can't , I hate musicals with a passion and while I wouldn't necessarily categorize this as a musical, the songs just made me cringe.
Same thing happened to me with Burton's Sweeney Todd, I wanted to watch that movie so bad but the constant singing just turned me off, shame as the art-direction is beautiful/well-made.

Oh yea, the songs were ass and I didn't really care for the voice of Pinnochio but the songs were overall a small part. I could have done without them entirely other than the poo poo fart song directed at Mussolini which made me laugh because I still have the sense of humor of a child apparently.

 

[AJUMP23]

Wow. Then take my statement as a compliment. Its so good that you think its CG!

No, I don't think I will.

 

[Revolutionary]

 

[AJUMP23]

I watched it today. And the style is compelling and the story is good. I think this movie is something of a thing of beauty.

it is a little weird to set it in the backdrop of ww2 Italy.

 

[LiquidMetal14]

It's a good movie. We watched it last night. Major step up from the Disney remake.

 

[GloveSlap]

I liked it a fair bit. It doesn't feel like it was made in modern times, which is a good thing.

 

[Revolutionary]

Coming to physical media care of The Criterion Collection!