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[distantmantra]

The thing is, a lot of the characters in this game are either characters that were already voiced in the Gundam Musou/Dynasty Warriors titles, or just have duplicate VAs (Such as Amuro/Setsuna in english). Plus, it at least helps that there are three/four versions of some characters (Amuro and Char, two versions of Setsuna [three if you include Hobo Exia which might be a playable unit], two versions of Seabook, etc). And outside of voicing some grunts, screams, and some out of context catchphrases, the actual dubbing work wouldn't be that tremendous.

The licensing of the background music is a separate issue, though.

I don't even see music licensing and VAs as the reason why it wouldn't make it out of Japan. The market for Gundam is really small in North America these days.

 

[MechaX]

I don't even see music licensing and VAs as the reason why it wouldn't make it out of Japan. The market for Gundam is really small in North America these days.

While I would agree that's pretty much the issue, I still wonder how the Musou titles can get released one after the other with Namco's help, especially when considering that it's a niche-within-a-niche situation with that one.

 

[distantmantra]

While I would agree that's pretty much the issue, I still wonder how the Musou titles can get released one after the other with Namco's help, especially when considering that it's a niche-within-a-niche situation with that one.

I think they get released because they're Dynasty Warriors titles more than anything. Gundam 0081 didn't get localized, but all three Musou titles did. Hell, we even got the Fist of the North Star game! That has to have an even smaller fan base in North America than Gundam does.

 

[Shingin]

Hoping that the netcode is decent, its too bad there's no system link mode.

I'll be picking this up day 1.

 

[donkey show]

Thanks again everyone! Glad you guys like it! =)

Amazing OP. Have to wait until Christmas, but already sold.

Do we know what the stage music changes from vs. Next are?

The wiki has all the track listings under the Gundam series names: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mobile_Suit_Gundam:_Extreme_Vs.

I can make a proper listing later on and add it to the OT.

But yeah, I'm hoping netcode is at the very least playable considering how far apart a lot of us are.

Don't forget to add your PSN to the community list!

 

[frequency]

I'm really looking forward to this. I'll probably mostly just play single player though (competitive multiplayer isn't my thing) so I hope there's enough content there.
I also hope the ranged combat feels a lot more satisfying than the Gundam Musou games.

 

[donkey show]

I'm really looking forward to this. I'll probably mostly just play single player though (competitive multiplayer isn't my thing) so I hope there's enough content there.
I also hope the ranged combat feels a lot more satisfying than the Gundam Musou games.

Considering it's similar to Next Plus in regards to single player content, I remember it taking me at least more than 20 hours to complete the Plus mode (which is the Trial Mission Mode in EXVS). Then attempting to do get S ranks on all missions was another thing, on top of leveling up all my units to max. There's also emblem collecting in this one, on top of all the single player routes which you might have to play through several times in order to unlock all the playable units.

As for long range being more satisfying than the GM games, short answer is yes.

The long answer is the VS series can't be compared to the Musou games. There's a definite balance between ranged and melee due to the nature of being a versus game. And aside from properly getting into range to do some close range damage, you'll be using your long range weapons most of the time.

 

[McBradders]

Donkey Show :bow :bow :bow

 

[Xater]

Alright! I am so ready for this. Really hope it will not take too long from YesAsia. Also added myself to the PSN list. Already saw some other guys from Europe so that's great.

 

[fionel]

I wonder if co-op is available for the trial-mode like it was for the mission mode in GvG Next.

 

[Shouta]

I wonder if co-op is available for the trial-mode like it was for the mission mode in GvG Next.

I expect it to be.

I wouldn't count Link mode out either but we'll see.

 

[amishpriest99]

Superb OP! Totally forgot the Sumo was in this...can't wait to try it out.

 

[donkey show]

I expect it to be.

I wouldn't count Link mode out either but we'll see.

Yeah, I may be being rather positive, but I think there's a lot more to unlock than what we're seeing now.

Superb OP! Totally forgot the Sumo was in this...can't wait to try it out.

UNIVEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEERSE!!!

Donkey Show :bow :bow :bow

*hugs*

 

[Triple Da G.O.D!]

Wonderful OT.

Shame I don't get the Nobel Gundam this time around.

Burning Pimp Hand it is.

 

[Xater]

Knowing me I will probably settle for Unicorn or Exia. I already enjoyed both units in GvG Next Plus.

 

[donkey show]

Definitely planning on rocking the Crossbones and the Gelgoog at the very least. Zaku II FZ looks like a nice 1000 as well.

 

[sixteen-bit]

curleh mustache for me.

 

[BudokaiMR2]

I really liked Heavyarms(missiles YAY!) but I always got beat to a pulp using him in the arcades.

F91 felt like a beast and the Crossbone guys are just fun as hell.

Now I might have to find time on Sunday to hit the arcades for some warmup.

For now I will have to make due with watching random Gundam.

 

[Teknopathetic]

God, Dragon, Crossbone, maybe Tallgeese.

 

[Lostconfused]

I am weak, I ordered this on play-asia. Should be here next saturday I guess.


Wait, hobo Exia is in this game? Yeah I am fairly certain that this is the unit I am going to main. But as always the Over Flag gets no love, at all. Such a shame.


Not to say that I am a cray 00 fan boy or anything. It's just that when it comes to games the kind of old, wonky stuff tends to crawl out of the old series. Like say the hyper hammer, beam javelin, G-Armor and all that for the RX-78. I watched the movie trilogy first, so stuff like that always seemed kind of weird to me.

 

[Mattlikewhoa]

Definitely planning on rocking the Crossbones and the Gelgoog at the very least. Zaku II FZ looks like a nice 1000 as well.

I can get behind this...

 

[donkey show]

Wait, hobo Exia is in this game? Yeah I am fairly certain that this is the unit I am going to main. But as always the Over Flag gets no love, at all. Such a shame.

But the Over Flag is here:

And Exia Repair shows up when you Overcost in normal Exia. Hopefully you won't see it that much, heh.

I also found a very recent arcade tier listing, which is basically every unit in this game minus Hi-Nu, Dynames, Raphael, and Blue Frame 2nd L. Unless they make tweaks to the existing arcade units, I'm guessing the tier listing will hold. I'll put a translation up in a bit.

EDIT:

I can get behind this...

Just looked at the tier listing and it's considered an S rank out of the 1000 unit suits.

 

[sixteen-bit]

Can you post the tier list?

 

[donkey show]

Can you post the tier list?

As of Nov. 22: http://jbbs.livedoor.jp/game/50741/#6

Hopefully one of the fine Gundam-GAF members here can get a full translation before I can.

For clarification, the groups go by unit cost:
3000
2500
2000
1000

S 古黒 運命 ストフリ ＞ クアンタ マスター
A TX UC ν
B V2 00 DX ＞ 羽 髭

S 隠者 ＞ ギス
A 乙 ＞ 黒本
B 死神 神 ケル ＞ ZZ サザ シナ
C キュベ X2 クシャ

S シャゲ
A フォビ 龍 ＞ スサ ヘビア
B ヴァサ 初代 スモ スト Δ F91 百式 ＞ メッサ ガナ 赤枠 プロビ エクシア
C 02 01

S ザク ＞ 戦車
A 犬 グフ
B ベルガ ＞ Ez8 赤キュベ ヅダ
C アレ アッガイ ＞ ガンイジ

 

[frequency]

Kind of off topic but:
I ordered this on Play-Asia last night but I got an unrelated email from them this morning with some coupons.

If only I waited a bit!


Anyway, I'm glad to hear there is a lot to do for just single player stuff. I don't have a lot of experience with Gundam games outside of the Musou games and one on the PS2 that I forget the name of.
I assume this has a way more refined combat system since it's that type of game. Sooooo looking forward to getting this! The wait for shipping is going to make me sad.

 

[Xater]

Kind of off topic but:
I ordered this on Play-Asia last night but I got an unrelated email from them this morning with some coupons.

If only I waited a bit!


Anyway, I'm glad to hear there is a lot to do for just single player stuff. I don't have a lot of experience with Gundam games outside of the Musou games and one on the PS2 that I forget the name of.
I assume this has a way more refined combat system since it's that type of game. Sooooo looking forward to getting this! The wait for shipping is going to make me sad.

Let me tell you, you are in for a treat. GvG Next Plus was my first Gundam VS game and I only got it because of positive impressions on here. The game actually totally blew me away and was one of my most played PSP games. This really is one the games I have been most excited about this year.

 

[donkey show]

Kind of off topic but:
I ordered this on Play-Asia last night but I got an unrelated email from them this morning with some coupons.

If only I waited a bit!


Anyway, I'm glad to hear there is a lot to do for just single player stuff. I don't have a lot of experience with Gundam games outside of the Musou games and one on the PS2 that I forget the name of.
I assume this has a way more refined combat system since it's that type of game. Sooooo looking forward to getting this! The wait for shipping is going to make me sad.

Yay, welcome to Gundam-GAF! Pretty much most of the suits play differently, so there'll be lots of nice variation regardless of who you choose.

I'll make sure to add everyone to the Gundam-GAF EXTREEEEME chat as well when I get back home from work tonight.

Also, I've translated the 1000 cost tier list:

S: Zaku II FZ > Hidolfr, Gouf
A: LaGOWE, Berga Giros
B: Ez8, Quebeley MKII, Zudah, Acguy
C: Alex > Gun-EZ

 

[sixteen-bit]

Ah, much nicer than moon runes!

A close friend of mine will be extremely happy about Gouf being that high.

 

[Danny Dudekisser]

Y'know, I know I need this game. I don't have the retarded amount of cash on hand to buy it myself, but uh... I do know some generous people, and Christmas is coming up...

but I've wanted this since the first arcade footage came out.

 

[thetrin]

How is Delta Plus?

Curious to look into Delta Plus, Unicorn, Zaku II and Zeta.

 

[MechaX]

Poor Gundam Alex. It was supposed to be better than the original Gundam on paper by far. Too bad Chris kinda sucks as a pilot and it got kinda owned by a Zaku in the actual OVA.

 

[Lostconfused]

Yeah and the Gundam was getting kind of old by the end of the one year war and the Zeon suits are supposed to out perform it. It's just that Amuro is probably the most ridiculously dangerous pilot around thanks to getting some combat experience and ridiculous newtype precognition.

 

[Wazzim]

So pumped for this game but I'm not getting it for that ridiculous price, fuck Bandai.

 

[donkey show]

How is Delta Plus?

Curious to look into Delta Plus, Unicorn, Zaku II and Zeta.

According to the list, Delta Plus is B Rank in the 2000 list.

Poor Gundam Alex.

Here's a nice vid of a Gouf/Alex team handling a Master/Crossbone X-2 team.

http://www.mmcafe.com/nico.html#http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm15335149

 

[thetrin]

According to the list, Delta Plus is B Rank in the 2000 list.

Hah! No wonder I couldn't find it on the list. I was looking for デルタ, not Δ.

3000

S 古黒 運命 ストフリ ＞ クアンタ マスター

Crossbone Full Cloth (maybe) Destiny, Strike Freedom > 00 QAN[T], Master

A TX UC ν

Turn X, Unicorn, Nu

B V2 00 DX ＞ 羽 髭

V2, 00, Double X > Wing, Turn A

2500

S 隠者 ＞ ギス

Ashtaron Hermit Crab > Geese

A 乙 ＞ 黒本

Second > (Black Book ???)

B 死神 神 ケル ＞ ZZ サザ シナ

Shinigami, God, Keru > ZZ, Sazabi, Shina

C キュベ X2 クシャ

Quebley, X2, Kushya (?)

2000

S シャゲ

Shage

A フォビ 龍 ＞ スサ ヘビア

Forbidden, Dragon > Susanoo, Heavy Arms

B ヴァサ 初代 スモ スト Δ F91 百式 ＞ メッサ ガナ 赤枠 プロビ エクシア

Vasa, OG Gundam, Sumo, Suto (??), Delta, F91, Hyaku Shiki > Messala, Gunner, Red Frame, Providence, Exia

C 02 01

1000

S ザク ＞ 戦車

Zaku > Tank

A 犬 グフ

Dog (?), Gouf

B ベルガ ＞ Ez8 赤キュベ ヅダ

Beruga > Ez8, Red Quebley, tsuda (?)

C アレ アッガイ ＞ ガンイジ

Are, Acguy > Ganiji

This list is using short forms and nick names. I have no idea what half of these mean.

Someone who understands some of these nicknames and knows more about Gundam should probably clean up that terrible translation.

 

[donkey show]

Hah! No wonder I couldn't find it on the list. I was looking for デルタ, not Δ.

Yeah, I was looking for that as well, but the list uses a lot of nicknames. I think I have most of the 2000s down, but I'm somewhat guessing on Strike and Gunner Zaku Warrior.

2000 unit tier list

S: Strike (probably)
A: Forbidden, Dragon > Susanoo, HeavyArms
B: Virsago, Delta Plus, F91, Sumo, Gundam, Hyaku Shiki > Providence, Exia, Messala, Gunner Zaku Warrior, Astray Red Frame
C: GP02A, GP01Fb

(no idea, but I'm hoping it's a Gundam called Beard)

That's Turn A.

 

[thetrin]

That's Turn A.

And here I was hoping we'd have a Gundam with a gnarly beard.

 

[donkey show]

And here I was hoping we'd have a Gundam with a gnarly beard.

If only. ;__;

 

[thetrin]

Formatting that list a little more to make it more readable. Anyone who knows some of these units I can't figure out the names of, please give me your input so I can keep updating that list.

 

[Ezalc]

If only. ;__;

Too bad there are many other G Gundams that should be in this over Zeus Gundam. Gundams like Spiegel and Maxter.

 

[sixteen-bit]

If only. ;__;

We need a Santa Gundam for Christmas

 

[donkey show]

Too bad there are many other G Gundams that should be in this over Zeus Gundam. Gundams like Spiegel and Maxter.

Dem tears.

Here's the 3000 unit list. Unsure of Crossbone Full Cloth, but it's the only one that probably fits the "old black."

3000 tier

S: Crossbone Full Cloth (maybe) Destiny, Strike Freedom > 00 QAN[T], Master
A: Turn X, Unicorn, Nu
B: V2, 00 Gundam, Double X > Turn A, Wing Zero

 

[Ezalc]

Dem tears.

I will continue to not give my money to scamco until I get some German Ninja Action.

 

[donkey show]

^ German ninjutsu is best ninjutsu.

Okay, I've finally translated the 2500 units, so here's the tier list last created on 11/22/2011: http://jbbs.livedoor.jp/game/50741/#6

3000
S: Crossbone Full Cloth, Destiny, Strike Freedom > 00 QAN[T], Master
A: Turn X, Unicorn, Nu
B: V2, 00 Gundam, Double X > Turn A, Wing Zero

2500
S: Infinite Justice > Tallgeese III
A: Zeta > Crossbone
B: Deathscythe Hell, God, Cherudim > ZZ, Sazabi, Sinanju
C: Quebeley, Crossbone X-2, Kshatriya

2000
S: Strike
A: Forbidden, Dragon > Susanoo, HeavyArms
B: Virsago, Gundam, Sumo, Gelgoog, Delta Plus, F91, Hyaku Shiki > Providence, Exia, Messala, Gunner Zaku Warrior, Astray Red Frame
C: GP02A, GP01Fb

1000
S: Zaku II FZ > Hidolfr, Gouf
A: LaGOWE, Berga Giros
B: Ez8, Quebeley MKII, Zudah, Acguy
C: Alex > Gun-EZ

Dat Crossbone.

 

[thetrin]

Dat Crossbone. Can't wait!

 

[MechaX]

Man, even in Alliance vs. ZAFT, the Destiny and the Strike (Launcher Strike in particular) were insanely good.

 

[donkey show]

Dat Crossbone. Can't wait!

Tobia once again shows he's the best Gundam pilot ever.

Man, even in Alliance vs. ZAFT, the Destiny and the Strike (Launcher Strike in particular) were insanely good.

Oh man, Launcher and Strike Noir were literally broken. Such insane reload times, extremely safe moves, and green homing abuse (specifically with Launcher). They were banned from all tourneys in Japan and Asia, heh.

 

[thetrin]

I haven't seen any good videos of Unicorn in action. Any good fights anyone can link me to?

 

[Ezalc]

German ninjutsu is best ninjutsu.

That it is my good man, that it is.

 

[Xater]

Maybe I'll have to rethink my Exia preference. Heavy Arms was also alright.

@Shouta: You know if these tiers are pretty close Tekken-style or are they more severe?