BlackBuzzard
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Everything was hats and cosmetics.
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Guy walks into Digital Extremes, gets lunch, discovers new game Keystone
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Everything was hats and cosmetics.
Freakin' incredible. I wonder if I could pull something like this on the Pentagon.
Cheat Code
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I can't tell if this is hilarious or awful for Digital Extremes.
Game sounds really cool though.
Game sounds really cool though.
Phantom Dust was 3rd person and not exactly a shooter, but yeah, kind of.
The recent screenshot of Hi-Rez Studio's new game also looked like a first person shooter that may have involved cards in some fashion.
Sure, but there's no point in trying to dance around it once the information is out there.
This is why companies stress not to allow people to "piggyback" behind you when they come into the office but its so hard to police because our natural reaction is to hold the door open for someone as we walk in. Its very easy to not know if someone works in a place as long as they dress the part at least even for a day. People are either A. Oblivious B. Dont really talk to eachother and are busy working on their stuff or C. The company is large enough where everyone may not always interact with eachother so if they see you there they just assume you work there.
I hope the guy that let him in(honest mistake) doesn't get fired over it. I think the person in question should have at least been more vague about describing the game etc or be more new stuff coming from DE at some point! I think that was kinda shitty what they did.
I hope the guy that let him in(honest mistake) doesn't get fired over it. I think the person in question should have at least been more vague about describing the game etc or be more new stuff coming from DE at some point! I think that was kinda shitty what they did.
I've tailgated on to the runway of a large Russian airport and back in again.
You can get into a lot of places if you look like you belong.
He needs to do this every day until he gets caught.
Press Sneak Fuck.
It is a dick move, and I wouldn't praise this guy. But once the information is out, it's out.
stump sock
Member
unless you have single-entry doors (revolving or otherwise), your office will have many people come in without using their badges (or fingerprints, as it may be). MANY.
of course with fingerprint scanners you have the additional downside of people not having or needing badges, which could otherwise serve as a clue that somebody doesn't belong
boy I don't envy the meetings that company is going to have to endure for the next few weeks
The Darkness 3 will never happen...we get a card game instead
Pretty sure whether or not another Darkness game happens is up to 2K, and they could have it made by anyone they wanted.
BlackBuzzard
Banned
Company is probably the most pissed that he stole lunch.
akidnamededdy
Banned
Start going on company picnics and shit, hahahah.
BibiMaghoo
Member
The dude that held the door open is looking for a new job. Bad times.
Phrozenflame500
Member
Yeah sometimes I wonder. This is basically free publicity, and since it's just vague rumours they don't have to stick to any promises. From a security standpoint it's awful I guess, but at least they now are going to be forced to improve in that department.
FutureZombie
Banned
If you dressed as a pizza delivery man, you could easily get into most of these companies.
BronsonLee
Member
The real dick move was describing the guy who held the door open for him. That's fucked up.
Interfectum
Member
Well, until you dropped off the pizza.
"why is the pizza dude still here? and why does he keep asking about half life 3?"
papercan55
Member
it would be better to send people to find secret things, not obvious things that expand your dong.
stump sock
Member
I'd be surprised. if it wasn't him, it would have been any other number of people in the office. outside of maybe government jobs, I've never seen anybody get fired for being socially engineered
I mean I'm sure he's gonna have to spend some time with HR and whatever passes for security there but his own guilt will probably be the hardest part?
While this is hilarious this is pretty sloppy security. My old job stressed the no piggybacking thing but it still happened, which specifically became a problem when an employee's ex was able to get in that way and assault her. Don't let people piggyback on you if you work at a place like this unless you specifically know them or something, you never fucking know.
TheSlySoul
Member
I figured the lunch room would have entries much like the London Underground with many single entries. Conventions have a policy to always show your badge. A meal card would function like a badge. Keep it in wallet and scan to get into the lunch room.
Finger scanner is nice, but have another layer.
Hot Coldman
Banned
"uhhhh no, I meant half a slice of three... three cheese pizza"
Banjo-Kazooie
Member
The poor guy who he piggybacked in is going to get reamed. They surely now have a general time to check for which one of their tattooed employees scanned himself in before lunch.
Yeah, this shouldn't be published.
The developers clearly aren't ready to show this off (or don't want to) and just because some guy went there fishing for info Kotaku should respect the devs and not post anything, unless they say it's okay.
This isn't journalism, it's just using stolen info for a story. Serves no one.
The developers clearly aren't ready to show this off (or don't want to) and just because some guy went there fishing for info Kotaku should respect the devs and not post anything, unless they say it's okay.
This isn't journalism, it's just using stolen info for a story. Serves no one.
Waiting for devs to be ready isn't journalism, it's regurgitating press releases.
It's also not "stolen" info if Kotaku independently verified the original Reddit post. That's called a scoop.
protomouse
Member
I admire the stones of that man. Hope they go easy on the dude who let him in.
If you want a video game website that only publishes what developers say is OK to publish, I recommend sticking to one of the many websites that does just that.
I don't think you quite understand what journalism is.
People are always complaining about gaming journalism being in cahoots with the industry and then this happens and suddenly websites should respect the privacy of developers when they ask for info to be taken down.
Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew
Banned
Err yeah, fuck Kotaku for doing reporting. Yeah...
You guys are freaking out like he leaked the source code or something. Yes, it's bad that we found out the name of the game and a 7 word breakdown of what it is. Yes, the guy is an asshole for sneaking in and doing this shit.
Should this be taken down? No. It'll never be taken down. It's out there now.
We have done far worse by datamining and looking at website or game source codes to determine what a developer is working on. We have done far worse... and no one complained then.
Well, now that you mention it, some of the Warframe devs do get pizza delivered on rare occasions by community members who bought it for them... hmm.
Aztechnology
Member
Really, it's incredibly messed up. The guy probably figured it would give him more credibility and didn't think about how it could be damaging at all.
I like Kotaku. I don't like people stealing information from devs and you publishing it like this should be public information or something.
Devs aren't corrupt politicians where everything they do should be open. I don't think this kind of stuff coming from respectable sites is cool at all.
Hot Coldman
Banned
Nobody wants to be the asshole that doesn't recognize their coworkers.
Also ITT the game press should simultaneously be and not the extended PR arm of developers and publishers.
User 479360
Banned
We Canadians are friendly to a fault sometimes.
Shining Sunshine
Banned
I don't know if that guy will get in trouble. Didn't sign any NDAs or steal anything.
I doubt trespassing charges mean anything these days.
stump sock
Member
on top of that, it's thoroughly responsible, I hope there are a lot of people out there who are suddenly feeling the urge to revisit their security policies
Revolutionary
Member
Exactly what I thought of lol
Well not this scene, the "I don't even really work here" one.
GifGafIsTheBestGaf
Member
Ha, so good
Mobius and pet octopus
Member
I want some damn crackers now.
Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew
Banned
I repeat: We, as NeoGAF, have done far worse by datamining and looking at website or game source codes to determine what a developer is working on. We have done far worse... and no one complained then.
This is extremely shitty situation but Kotaku is not to blame here.
TheSlySoul
Member
Agreed.
Why was that part needed?
They should respect the privacy of developers of course they should.
Developers aren't your enemy. They are just people trying to make games. And leaking their stuff just hurts them for no reason.
This "us vs them" mentality is ridiculous.
What I want from games journalists is to be critical and to do investigative pieces like the recent ones about why THQ folded or one that Polygon did about the whole Milo thing. You know, the kind of stuff where you interview people and give insight into projects.
Using info some dude stole from Digital Extremes about an unnanounced game is not it. At all.
But I'm in the minority so whatever.
If it is an assessment, you won't get fired unless it is an additional audit that the director or the executives signed off on.
And boy, if the director is controlling the culture for his department and you got social engineered then you are screwed since now the audit will fail the director and hold him responsible for lack of training in his department.
Like I said, DE should be thankful that this guy was a fan and didn't look around to find where the network/server was, passwords in someone drawer or opening unlocked cabinets with confidential information.
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