Planetside 2 was a fantastic game, what are you even talking about.
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Planetside 2 was a fantastic game, what are you even talking about.
Dunno, there are mods for Arma 2/3 that are developed faster than DayZ S. Path of Exile was and is developed much faster too. EVE Online is developed faster etc.
Lets not forget that DayZ S is in production for over 1.5 year now and it is still not up to pair feature wise to the Arma 2 mod. Its painfully slow unfortunately ;\ [yeah i know it has some other things implemented too]
Sure, development is not easy or fast, but they still havent fixed mouse acceleration, almost 5 months after alpha launch.
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Player servers feature sounds awesome.
Optimistic Gamer
Member
agreed.
If HoneZone is anything on the level of PS2, it should really be interesting and worth a look.
Surprised you call Planetside 2 a disaster after you where in love with that generic shit MAG.
The game is only in development for 5 months by now. The beta will easily going on for over a year. So a ps4 version is far far away, maybe even 2016.
Those Arma 2/3 mods usually just use things already in the engine anyway and most of the stuff doesn't exactly work very well. A lot of stuff is just kinda tacked on. That can work fine for a mod, but it does have its limits. That's the reason why they stopped working on the mod to focus on making it it's own game.
Also, they did actually fix the mouse acceleration as of a couple of days ago.
(in the experimental branch)
mysteriousmage09
Member
I love how straight forward SOE has been as of late. Like what I hear about seeing more crafting and survival aspects next week. Also this really stuck out for me.
REALLY good move imo.
Can't watch the video atm, did they confirm this in the stream or where is this from?
FlammableAce
Member
I believe they said the loot will just respawn on it's own after a set time and maybe when the area is empty. The servers will NOT be restarting every couple hours what dayz and rust do.
Also uploaded the stream to YouTube in HD, it's in two parts and each part is 30mins long.
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LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
Is that why I'm constantly disconnecting in DayZ? That's really annoying on top of the jank controls.
You shouldn't be constantly disconnecting. Server usually restart every ~4 hours.
Ninja Scooter
Member
Looks like it could be cool but there was so little to see that it's hard to come to any sort of judgement from it. I guess the tech foundation is there and the jank was at a minimum which is always cool. I do wonder with so little going on and to show why they did a live stream instead of a polished prerecorded gameplay demo.
They were going to show more, but the server happened to go down while they were doing the livestream. That is why they were mainly driving around.
If that is 5 months of production, then I am pretty excited to see what we will see down the line.
Especially when you consider dayz is nearly 2 years now ( year and a half, yes most of it was engine building/infrastructure but the progress is still slow...)
Has a long way to go and doesn't seem to have the depth dayz has, which I really like.
Will it replace dayz? doubt it but will still be a good option.
Especially when you consider dayz is nearly 2 years now ( year and a half, yes most of it was engine building/infrastructure but the progress is still slow...)
Has a long way to go and doesn't seem to have the depth dayz has, which I really like.
Will it replace dayz? doubt it but will still be a good option.
Smedley has been tweeting/posting a bit again.
First thoughts on monetization: http://www.reddit.com/r/h1z1/comments/23oqm8/we_had_our_first_monetization_meeting_yesterday/
Air Drops idea: http://www.reddit.com/r/h1z1/comments/23osv8/air_drops_in_h1z1/
First thoughts on monetization: http://www.reddit.com/r/h1z1/comments/23oqm8/we_had_our_first_monetization_meeting_yesterday/
Air Drops idea: http://www.reddit.com/r/h1z1/comments/23osv8/air_drops_in_h1z1/
Rygar 8 Bit
Jaguar 64-bit
pretty sure beta only costs $20 to get in so you shouldnt be worried about dropping a lot to get in
That's what I hear the rumors to be as well. 20 bucks to get in a game a year before release? I would say that is reasonable.
unholyrevenger72
Banned
I think the air drop idea is poor. I'm paying for something, but in the end i may never receive it and at worse i die trying to retrieve and losing all my gear in the process.
Poofynamanama
Banned
I find zombies very boring but after watching frankieonpcs video showing some stuff from the livestream, this games on my radar. not sure if my laptop could run it so I'll probably have to wait for this to come out on ps4
I really liked drops in some of the dayz mods and wasteland; paying for conflict seems like the effect of this one. Everyone will see it in the area and as an effect, you can camp. It'll be a death area; people most likely will stay away unless they are endgame or something.
It's the Planetside 2 engine so most likely older computers will run it well.
I guess it's kind of like the dota thing where you buy boosts for everyone in the game but yourself. I bet it will be popular among groups who play together and don't mind fighting for it.
unholyrevenger72
Banned
I'm not against the idea of the air drop, i'm against the idea of paying for it. If it is going to be a randomly generated environmental probability i would have no issues with that.
Why is it an issue for You when its payed content?
I really dont get why people are against payed items in games with perma death. As long as You can kill whales as easy as normal people i dont see an issue. If someone is stupid enough to pay for items he/she can lose in a second, its solely their decision and for the rest community, its free pinata that also helps building a game.
Many people are to fast in jumping to conclusion that its a Pay to Win, because You can buy something gameplay related without spending a minute on thinking how it really affect gameplay in such a game.
If it's cheap (1 or 2 bucks) I think it would be a fun way to introduce some craziness if you are getting a little bored. Follow the plane and see what happens at the drop site. Especially if it attracts hordes of zombies.
unholyrevenger72
Banned
Because it's real money i'm using to raise the probability of me getting killed and losing all the time i put into scavenging my gear.
So dont use it?
littleworm
Member
Eh, from what I have seen the pay scheme is this game seems fair. This is coming from someone who hates the F2P model, if the items are just cosmetic I don't really care. The airdrop thing seems interesting, I like the idea of giving everyone a chance to fight for it, but the balance is going to be important. I'd hate to see the developers bitch out and make it easier for the purchaser.
mysteriousmage09
Member
It's been proven multiple times from devs that actually give a shit about their games can do F2P right.
Path of Exile and Dota 2 are prime examples of great systems and both games are making nice profit. It's good to see that SOE is being as open as a company possibly can about everything related to the game and are listening and answering questions on Reddit like there's no tomorrow. Such a big turnaround from the SWG days of silencing everyone voicing their opinion about how bad the changes they were making were.
unholyrevenger72
Banned
If they implement a paid for air drop system with real money i will probably not even play the game. If a player is to spend money on anything in a game it needs to have a concrete result. It's bad enough games have incorporated gambling/addiction based systems that use fixed %s with real money, now they want to introduce the human factor.
No one is forced to use it. It's an option and only an option...
I find it kind of stupid but it's not going to ruin a game for me if I never buy it...I rather it be this than some pay-to-win bullshit.
If you want to spend money in a game for an advantage, this clearly won't be that game and to 99.9% of gamers, that's a really good thing.
littleworm
Member
Oh no, I don't doubt F2P can work as a fair and profitable model DotA 2 being a prime example of that. It's just not something that makes me weary of picking up a game.
If this is anything like the NeoGaf Rust server, and some of the DayZ mod servers that had stuff like base building, not quite the case with the SA yet, the smaller groups and lone wolves always suffer at the hands of the major factions. For example in Rust the group I was apart of would have all the high end gear faster than the lone wolves, we can collect more resources, and use those to have a bigger arsenal with to attack as loot the smaller groups. In any MMO type game that allows stuff like base building like stuff being in a group is almost always the way to go.
unholyrevenger72
Banned
1.The choice of using it or not using it isn't the problem.
2. The problem is when a player chooses to spend real money he or she should get something more substantial then a "Chance"
3. It is poor game design to sell players, for real money, "chances".
Hmmm, I'm not too keen on their take of death. Honestly I feel like you should drop everything and anything, no matter if you bought it from the store or not. Would make you think twice before running head first into a battle, but I guess it may deter people from buying store items.
Monetisation is going to have to be a very delicate approach, one they need to think through and act accordingly. This is a type of game that if one small misstep is noted, it could ruin the entire feeling of scavenging and such, which is why I'm cautious at the whole air drop thing. I know Rust does it, but you don't need to purchase anything for that to happen.
I hope they only offer clothes and these crates, as they seem to fill a gap that can be dimed but not interfere with the general playthrough of a player. I'm a bit wary of the crates but hopefully they only contain fluff items, and not guns or bullets. Also this durability thing sounds...strange. I guess its their take on DayZ's system?
Monetisation is going to have to be a very delicate approach, one they need to think through and act accordingly. This is a type of game that if one small misstep is noted, it could ruin the entire feeling of scavenging and such, which is why I'm cautious at the whole air drop thing. I know Rust does it, but you don't need to purchase anything for that to happen.
I hope they only offer clothes and these crates, as they seem to fill a gap that can be dimed but not interfere with the general playthrough of a player. I'm a bit wary of the crates but hopefully they only contain fluff items, and not guns or bullets. Also this durability thing sounds...strange. I guess its their take on DayZ's system?
Shining Sunshine
Banned
I don't have a reddit account, but I have an idea about the way they can implement the wearables in a fair way.
Right now, it sounds like there is a slight pay2win with cosmetic gear that can be used as protection. They should implement a system that requires the player to obtain the type of gear that they bought micro transaction for, then the player can apply the cosmetic onto the item to change the look. The cosmetic micro transaction can be one time or unlimited.
This way, you can't straight up buy armor/camo for any kind of advantage.
Right now, it sounds like there is a slight pay2win with cosmetic gear that can be used as protection. They should implement a system that requires the player to obtain the type of gear that they bought micro transaction for, then the player can apply the cosmetic onto the item to change the look. The cosmetic micro transaction can be one time or unlimited.
This way, you can't straight up buy armor/camo for any kind of advantage.
I like their loot idea
ChosenPredator
Banned
that is a pretty smart idea i mean if you buy something it should just open up the access to finding it in the world and perhaps forever be wearable until its broken in battle or until it goes back to respawning in the world for the original player to pickup
so player one buys microtransaction item, finds it in world...eventually dies to another player..Special backpack is either severely damaged or still in prestine condition....and gets access to your goodies until someone destroy it from his body or the next persons body...
unholyrevenger72
Banned
Cuz that worked so well for the WarZ
I have not read about it, i think i have to now, but paying for protection gear seems like a stupid idea. Although it all depends if the statistic are identical with stats found ingame and if it really protects or just helps in 1 shot out of 5 like in DayZ
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But that was actually good idea from WarZ devs. That and softcore and hardcore modes.
Anything that is not a cosmetic like paint or skin should be dropable.
A dev will be on a twitch podcast (http://www.twitch.tv/geekdomo) that begins in 20 minutes, in case anyone wants to check it out.
unholyrevenger72
Banned
No it's not. You're paying for something, you get to keep it but drop a copy for your murderer. That's fine. To see how bad an idea of not owning what you buy is you need only roll back a year and look at the Xbox1.