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Halo 4 - mandatory 8GB install for MP
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REMEMBER CITADEL
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The exact locked functionality or required hard drive space doesn't matter (and neither should we limit this to just Xbox 360 games), but Reach has already been mentioned. Off the top of my head, there's also FF XI, Forza 3 (and I suppose Forza 4), and every game (usually various GOTY editions) that ships with its DLC.
Yes, and they're not shipped with consoles regardless.
Don't get me wrong, it would be great if consoles and games always came with everything needed to use them to their fullest, but in reality that's not the case. All I'm saying is that it's asinine to require that from Halo 4, but not also all the other games on any platform that can't be fully enjoyed without an optional piece of hardware.
Diddy Kong
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LOL fail. Way to whore out the 4gb/Kinect bundle. Bravo!
Synth_floyd
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Amazon.com is selling the slim 250gb hard drive for $85 which isn't bad but it sucks that I have to shell out for it. I could do a USB drive also but only some USB drives work. I had an old 16gb one and tried it and it didn't work.
Instead of saving $1.25 a month between now and November to buy an 8gb stick, it's much easier to complain and bitch at Microsoft for screwing early adopters and dirty poors.
Frankly, this is a non issue, and if you want to bitch about something, bitch about Microsoft artificially extending this gaming generation on the back of Kinect, when it should have ended 2 years ago.
bigtroyjon
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Yeah, blu ray games don't have any mandatory installs.
dreamcastmaster
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You'll actually need a 16GB stick not an 8GB because of the space that's taken up with system files on any memory device.
bigtroyjon
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Deadly Cyclone
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This is a good thing. Not sure why some are taking it as otherwise.
Trunchisholm
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One of the worst first posts that I remember. That's missing the point completely. What has been a limiting factor on the 360 is the lack of standard HDD. I personally love it when developers use the HDD to make a better experience. This is, in my book, great news.
I can't say I'm sorry for those still with no HDD or 20GB HDDs, but if you're remotely interested in any of the many great XBLA exclusive titles you should already have a larger HDD by now. You don't even have to give MS a cent. There are cheap second-hand or knockoff 250GB and 320GB HDDs available; and you can even make your own for 50 bucks, and 60-120GB, which can be perfectly used with third-party cases on slim models are even cheaper. If you even more price conscious, you can even use one of those 8-16GB flash drives you must have around the house. I don't see why people are making such a fuss of something that can only bode well for the quality of the game.
dragonelite
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Google how to upgrade your own hdd if you're a bit technical what can go wrong 
OldJadedGamer
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Actually Animal Crossing for the Gamecube required a memory card and shipped with one in the box.
Burnout Paradise requires a Harddrive.
I feel this it is a big reason the Vita is selling poorly right now.
HigherLevel
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Honestly, how many people who will pickup Halo 4 don't have at least 8GBs of free space?
I would guess that number would be fairly low when compared to the overall number of people purchasing the game.
I would guess that number would be fairly low when compared to the overall number of people purchasing the game.
Yes I'm sure he is, given despite this it'll still outsell any PS3 exclusive shooter by quadruple.
So delete COD, install Halo, and think of it as rehab.
I'm personally happy about this. Hopefully it'll improve the multiplayer experience for all.
Neuromancer
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Bring it on! I have a 320 GB HDD (I think).
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Yes, I'm sure there are other exceptions, but we all know that's not the norm.
No, the thread title is wrong since the install size won't really be 8 GB, it'll be less than that, but more than 4 GB, thus the game requires an 8 GB flash drive or bigger.
Yeah, good thing PS3 owners don't have to worry about mandatory installs...
Dat peer pressure.
Dark Octave
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I have a 160gb HDD that's almost full. It's way too late in the gen to be going out and upgrading.
OldJadedGamer
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There are exceptions to every rule but to be fair you did say "no company will do that".
Ridiculous and unacceptable. I hope there is a really good reason for why Halo 4 should be so over the top in its HDD requirements. At least you can get USB sticks for super cheap now. I saw a 16GB one for $15 at Staples, so I'm sure if you shop online you can get an 8GB for a few bucks.
Nope what's ridiculous is MS didn't have a hard drive in each model of the xbox since 2007.
This is about time and long overdue.
OldJadedGamer
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The later in the gen gets the more rules get broken. And again there are exceptions to every rule and usually first party or big exclusives will get breaks first to do it.
They have never had a harddrive in every unit.
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Right, I was obviously wrong about that.
I know but they should have at least a couple years after launch.
Some men just want to watch the world burn. Anyway, this only affects MP players. MP players have XBL Gold. XBL Gold users are dramatically more likely to have HDDs.
Deadly Cyclone
Pride of Iowa State
Possibly, but an 8GB flash drive is like what, $10?
You really missed the boat on adding a 8/16GB flash drive that is Halo themed to the Collector's Edition.
Can you say if MP means Spartan Ops or War Games?
It's been six years since the Xbox 360 launched. The games now are pushing the hardware to the max and the requirements have changed. This won't affect many people.
OldJadedGamer
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I started a thread a couple weeks ago asking if the lack of HDD had hurt games outside of a few exceptions like this and it didn't get many responses because for the most part the lack of HDD hasn't really affected the vast majority of games for the system.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=479004
That's what you get for buying a console and expecting all games made for it to be compatible with it.
This should probably inform people that early adopting Microsoft hardware is a bad idea.
shinobi602
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How do you know? Do you know how many 4gb 360 owners are out there?
OldJadedGamer
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This isn't unique to MS. I know launch PS3's can't play all games released for the system. Not sure about Wii though and as pointed out there are many games released for brand new hardware like the Vita that require extra hardware to play. Going back to PS1, n64, PS2, Saturn... you name it. Sme games needed extra hardware. What about Majora Mask buyers for N64? Lots of disappointed kids.
REMEMBER CITADEL
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I'm not sure what you're talking about, you can play all vanilla Xbox 360 games on every model of the console (and all Kinect games, too, if you have a Kinect). You may need to invest in a hard drive or a USB flash drive if you haven't done that in the first place, but there are no unsolvable compatibility issues. Unlike what we had with some PS2 slim revisions which couldn't play a number of PS2 games no matter what.
Microsoft is actively selling a console RIGHT NOW that won't let you play Halo 4 multiplayer without buying add-on memory. I shouldn't need to update my console just to play a game, especially from a first party developer.
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Again, how is that different from some Vita games requiring a memory stick?
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