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Halo 4 Story Spoilers and Speculations
- Thread starter Slightly Live
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My thoughts on the game and ending:
-It really helps to have read the Karen Travis books as it explains they the Covenant are there and why they are at war again with the UNSC (They are a religous group of Covenant who oppse and are also at war with the Arbiter).
-With regards to Cortana, she has to return in some form. I don't think it will be a 'new' Cortana as the emotional connection between her and the Chief is increased 10x in Halo 4
-The Didact in this game should as far as we know be the Bornstellar Didact as the original was killed by the Master Builder in Cryptum. Also I belive the voice over in the epilogue is from the past with the Didact discussing with other Forerunner's the need to eliminate humanity
-It will be really interesting to see where 343i takes the series as the game ends without any real cliffhangers. MC is back at Earth on the Infiniti and the Didact conflcit is resolved. This also provides a great opportinity to reunite the Chief with Dr. Halsey and the remaining Spartan II's. Possible four player co-op in Halo 5 with MC, Fred, Kelly and Linda? Would be amazing if it could happen.
-With regards to Cortana, she has to return in some form. I don't think it will be a 'new' Cortana as the emotional connection between her and the Chief is increased 10x in Halo 4
-The Didact in this game should as far as we know be the Bornstellar Didact as the original was killed by the Master Builder in Cryptum. Also I belive the voice over in the epilogue is from the past with the Didact discussing with other Forerunner's the need to eliminate humanity
-It will be really interesting to see where 343i takes the series as the game ends without any real cliffhangers. MC is back at Earth on the Infiniti and the Didact conflcit is resolved. This also provides a great opportinity to reunite the Chief with Dr. Halsey and the remaining Spartan II's. Possible four player co-op in Halo 5 with MC, Fred, Kelly and Linda? Would be amazing if it could happen.
I don't think this matters all that much. They're just leftovers of the fanatics, the special class of the Covenant. The books don't really add any essential information beyond that short description and they don't really need to, but they might instead end up hurting that part of the in-game story, since none of that space lizard drama carries over and the Elites seem to be treated like animals, a voiceless thing for you to kill while you focus on getting to that one important ANCIENT EVIL.
Silentium spoilers:
He wasn't. The Silentium book description mentions both Didacts still playing a role in that novel.
Darkmakaimura
Can You Imagine What SureAI Is Going To Do With Garfield?
Maybe someone can answer this but what is the conditions like of the average citizen/civilian on Earth in Halo during these times? Are people generally oppressed, poor and diseased or are they generally well off like in Mass Effect or Star Trek?
NobleGundam
Banned
I've only watched these so far: Prologue, Mission 1 "Dawn", Mission 2, Mission 3 "Forerunner", 3 mins of Mission 4 till the video was taken down, and the ending plus legendary ending. Unfortunately I couldn't find any more videos from 4 - 8.
My question to GAFfers that have seen or played the missions 4 - 8. How were they and is there alternate sites to DL or Watch them perhaps?
My question to GAFfers that have seen or played the missions 4 - 8. How were they and is there alternate sites to DL or Watch them perhaps?
Slightly Live
Dirty tag dodger
It's more like Mass Effect than Star Trek, except no aliens.
Humanity set up some some colonies around our solar system. Mars, our Moon and a few other places. We had some bickering and disagreements, some serious conflicts during this time, typical humanity. We discovered FTL and spread out further. More colonies. With new planets and such the bulk of humanity migrated from Earth.
Mass migration and colonisation, politics and yup, more war. This time, with such vast distances from Earth, political discontent was inevitable, particularly due to the concentration and prosperity of the worlds closer to Earth and the difficulties of the frontier colonies.
Just before the Covenant War, there was a significant Insurrectionist movement against the main governing political body, the UNSC. The insurrection was a serious military threat for the UNSC with the proliferation of nuclear weapons and other technologies. The UNSC determined that humanity was at risk of self-annihilation so they clamped down hard. The Insurrectionists fought back harder.
The SPARTAN-II project and the Spartans was the solution to this problem and their deployment against the Insurrection was initially successful. It's entirely possible that the Spartans could have eliminated the entire Insurrection threat and saved billions of lives by pre-maturely ending the conflict.
The the Covenant was discovered. Entire planets fell silent, never to be heard from again. This sudden and unusual interruption halted the action against the Insurrection momentarily. As the Human-Covenant war progressed, the Insurrectionists tried to use the opportunity. Even up to the fall of Reach, the Insurrectionists were still fighting against the UNSC even though the humanity was facing mass genocide.
The UNSC and the Insurrectionists stopped paying attention to one another. The UNSC abandoned the Insurrectionists and retreated the remaining human population to Reach, Earth and the core inner worlds (colonies closer to Earth). It was assumed the Insurrection died when their home colonies went dark and communications ceased as the Covenant invaded.
Even with all the conflict, the majority of people were trying to get on with their lives. Gardeners, teachers, housewives, shop keepers, vehicle manufacturers. A lot of folks lost their homes and families but everyone struggled onwards. When the UNSC was pushed back to Earth and all the colonies feared lost, again, the survivors continued on trying to live normal lives. There was no mass panic, no breakdown of government.
After the Human-Covenant war? Well that story is still being written.
UrbanGrafix
Neo Member
I watched the streams but haven't been able to find much since the initial bubble and i've only been able to grab about 40mins of HD quality footage (mainly the start missions) and a few other important ones but the game is definitely good.
After watching the streams etc it makes me wonder what happens in silentium to cause the Librarian to lock the diadact away and put a plan in place to stop him essentially. And with the change in the didacts opinions (based on all released info) it must be something big to cause this shift.
But back to the game, You start off on FOD get bordered as you know then you get sucked into requium after being scanned. You then crash land etc etc etc and then Infinity tracks your signal and also gets sucked in and basically from there you are running around getting in contact with infinity and then getting sent out on missions. Finding stuff out and needing to shut down antennae to talk to the infinity which essentially is a trap which awakens the didact and then a hologram?? (unsure) of the librarian appears and tells John of her plan which has ended up with him in Requium and that he needs to stop the didact. He finally reaches the didact and plants a grenade on him and after that cortana steps in to protect the chief and you get a monologue at the end from the didact speaking to what seems like other forerunners and it ends.
I've prob missed heeps or gotten stuff wrong so don't shoot me lol, but the game looks very good and entertaining.
But back to the game, You start off on FOD get bordered as you know then you get sucked into requium after being scanned. You then crash land etc etc etc and then Infinity tracks your signal and also gets sucked in and basically from there you are running around getting in contact with infinity and then getting sent out on missions. Finding stuff out and needing to shut down antennae to talk to the infinity which essentially is a trap which awakens the didact and then a hologram?? (unsure) of the librarian appears and tells John of her plan which has ended up with him in Requium and that he needs to stop the didact. He finally reaches the didact and plants a grenade on him and after that cortana steps in to protect the chief and you get a monologue at the end from the didact speaking to what seems like other forerunners and it ends.
I've prob missed heeps or gotten stuff wrong so don't shoot me lol, but the game looks very good and entertaining.
I didn't really see any particularly large-scale encounters from what I saw, but I only saw the first three levels and the final two levels (with snippets of the middle). It definitely looks to be slightly smaller scale than say, Halo 3 or Reach - probably on a level with Halo 2.
From what I saw the penultimate level looked pretty lackluster. It's finale of defending... something... in a mantis against wave after wave of covenant seemed pretty dull.
There is a level just after the jungle level which is basically new alexandria with a
flyable pelican
NobleGundam
Banned
DAAAMMN! Sooo Good! Thanks
)keltickennedy
Member
So are these people who are talking about the game get early copies? Or pirated it without ever saying they pirated it? Seriously?
Welcome to the internet. Let me introduce you to a little webzone called "YouTube", it's a virtual place you can visit to watch all kinds of videos, including footage of unreleased games that have been stolen by some jerky jerk. There are even places that let you stream live footage for the entire world. It's quite amazing, you totally should check it out. Again, welcome and enjoy your stay. Seriously.
TheVoidDragon
Member
Was Earth more heavily defended than Reach was? I know it had lots of super MACs but i don't know anything other than that.
I hope the new trilogy isn't just going to be about the Prometheans or whatever the bad guy in halo 4 is, or the Flood (i hope they are gone for good).
I hope the new trilogy isn't just going to be about the Prometheans or whatever the bad guy in halo 4 is, or the Flood (i hope they are gone for good).
You really cant be more protected then Reach was considering it was the base of operations for both Fleetcom and the UNSC. Earth biggest defense against the Covenant was The Cole Protocol which ultimately ended up failing.
The Cole Protocol: http://halo.wikia.com/wiki/United_Nations_Space_Command_Emergency_Priority_Order_098831A-1
Halo 4 OST track name based speculation:
EDIT i don't want answers referring to actual Halo 4. Seriously, i don't want spoilers, i'm here just to speculate.
Revival, whose revival? And Green and Blue, to whom does it refer?
Warrior-Servant's colors are gray... and blue. It might be The Didact's color. And green. Life, lifeworkers? The Librarian? Maybe it is the Librarian who will be revived?
Green and Blue obviously can have a double meaning, referring to the Chief and Cortana as well.
I don't have much evidence for this, other than a quick mention to the Didact's caste's colors (and possibly his bound-symbol which is blue) and that green generally symbolises life and thus could represent the Librarian.
Warrior-Servant's colors are gray... and blue. It might be The Didact's color. And green. Life, lifeworkers? The Librarian? Maybe it is the Librarian who will be revived?
Green and Blue obviously can have a double meaning, referring to the Chief and Cortana as well.
I don't have much evidence for this, other than a quick mention to the Didact's caste's colors (and possibly his bound-symbol which is blue) and that green generally symbolises life and thus could represent the Librarian.
EDIT i don't want answers referring to actual Halo 4. Seriously, i don't want spoilers, i'm here just to speculate.
Deadly Monk
Banned
Hopefully someone can answer this too from the leaks:
What is Halsey's role in this game? From all the videos I have seen, she is not in a single part of the game. Essentially, what is her "arc" from beginning to end of this game and if she's in it, doesn't she have a few Spartan II's with her? And what becomes of them? Also, how the heck do they find her if she is in the game. I'm so confused lol.
UrbanGrafix
Neo Member
Basically 0. I'm not 100% sure if shes aboard the infinity in the game but in the books shes aboard it.
You do see Halsey in the opening cinematic for campaign but other than that, I'm not aware that shes involved in the game. And the cinematic is most likely aboard the infinity judging by the fact that Halsey is there and since no one is meant to know that shes alive.
You do see Halsey in the opening cinematic for campaign but other than that, I'm not aware that shes involved in the game. And the cinematic is most likely aboard the infinity judging by the fact that Halsey is there and since no one is meant to know that shes alive.
Darkmakaimura
Can You Imagine What SureAI Is Going To Do With Garfield?
She's not in the game anywhere except for that opening cutscene from the leaked walkthrough I saw. However, if I remember correctly she is supposed to make an appearance in the Spartan Ops campaign.
NobleGundam
Banned
Since Orange/Red Prometheans is the indication that
, than how is it in Spartan Ops there's still prometheans (6 months after)
since
The Didact Assumes Control of them
under control
Didact had been "Temporarily" defeated at the end of Halo 4?
Probably the same way the blue ones are still around over 100,000 years after their "master's" implied demise.
Plus, he clearly wasn't ASSUMING DIRECT CONTROL, so I'd guess it's more like they've been reprogrammed or infected with a particularly orange virus (or, more likely, cleared of a blue virus, since those were HIS pets) and there's no good reason for that to be reversed simply because their boss left the stage. I guess that's the one advantage this crappy digital flood has over the analog one.
Plus, he clearly wasn't ASSUMING DIRECT CONTROL, so I'd guess it's more like they've been reprogrammed or infected with a particularly orange virus (or, more likely, cleared of a blue virus, since those were HIS pets) and there's no good reason for that to be reversed simply because their boss left the stage. I guess that's the one advantage this crappy digital flood has over the analog one.
Most likely not in the game because there was a cutscene where the Chief was telling Cortana that if they can get back to Earth, to Halsey, she can fix her
NobleGundam
Banned
Very good theory. Thanks
Is it most likely the Librarian's doing? Like he said (implying) she turned his "Guardians and Whole World" against him.
Anyone got anything else to add here?
NobleGundam
Banned
We're Forerunners - Guardians of all that exists. & Humanity Stands as the Greatest threat in the Galaxy.
No.
They are also heard in the regular after credits sequence.
Wait, then what part of the epilogue is the legendary part? Just the
striptease
Yeah what's the regular epilogue then?
soulassssns
Banned
"Regarding the ending, when Humanity is said to be the greatest threat. If it was indeed a line spoken from 100,000 years ago, why was Humanity a threat to begin with? Can anyone explain this back stories in a nutshell?
Humanity and the Forerunner were at war before the Forerunner basically reset them back to primitives. Humanity also encountered the Flood 1st and apparently found the cure. This cure was lost in the reset and the Forerunner were unable to replicate it themselves. Humanity is the next holder of the Mantle which is the position the Forerunner hold.
Might not be 100% correct but that what I remember.
Well, for starters, humanity used to be a massive galactic empire before we got bombed back to stone age by the Forerunners while we were also fighting the Flood for the first(?) time, somewhere along the line we also became immune to it for a while because the Flood felt like it, then the Didact's wife developed a crush on all of us and gave the pre-industrial age humans the keys to the gun pointed at the head of the universe.
Whaaaat? Where is this info from??
Cryptum, Primordium.
soulassssns
Banned
Hmm this is quite interesting. It states that they didn't find a cure but instead the flood chose not to infect them so humans would be used for revenge against the forerunners. I wonder why that changed when they were encountered in the original Halo. Was it still part of the test to see if humans were worthy of the Mantle?
soulassssns
Banned
I believe 1 of the books states the part about the cure.
Well that's disappointing about the scale. I take it there are no scarab like encounters?
Still the level you're describing sounds great, since New Alexandria is one of my favourite missions in the series.
Can you describe it (in tags)?
NobleGundam
Banned
I know I can't be the only one who has noticed the recent gameplay trailer where it showed Master Chief placing his hands on the "orange glowing"
.
Through observation of a YouTube video that a leaker had uploaded previously (which has been removed), this "Glowing" feature was not in that Cutscene in the Didacts Intro... Which is something I'm curious to question why that is so?
Contacts; standing in front of the two pillars where the Cryptum is dormant.
Through observation of a YouTube video that a leaker had uploaded previously (which has been removed), this "Glowing" feature was not in that Cutscene in the Didacts Intro... Which is something I'm curious to question why that is so?
Darkmakaimura
Can You Imagine What SureAI Is Going To Do With Garfield?
I never saw any huge encounters either except for when you're riding on one of those huge multi-storied tanks. It was very reminiscient of the one in Gears of War 2.
I'm not sure but I think the stage similar to New Alexandria he is talking about is where you're flying from one big floating Forerunner "pillar" to the next. That scene looked so grandiose but it's less like a city and more like floating pillars in clouds if I remember. Think of Cloud City from Star Wars somewhat.
I'm not sure but I think the stage similar to New Alexandria he is talking about is where you're flying from one big floating Forerunner "pillar" to the next. That scene looked so grandiose but it's less like a city and more like floating pillars in clouds if I remember. Think of Cloud City from Star Wars somewhat.
Thanks! I'm excited now.
It does... But probably not what you would expect.
shinobi602
Member
Alright I'm not going to read any post in here, just want to know if we see Arbiter, Dr.Halsey, Fred, Kelly.
Or all of the above?
Or all of the above?
none.
shinobi602
Member
Huh, interesting...
Ein Soph Aur
Member
Well there is this...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zmOoGucyMNg#t=628s
Notice what the title of Episode 3 is.