SpiceMelange
Member
Why did HCS drop breakout? I didn't play it much but it seems pretty competitive, also reminds me a bit of Counterstrike with the round based system that's super heavy on tactics and positioning.
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Halo 5 active players is the highest since Halo 3 (even before the free play period)
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FUNKNOWN iXi
Member
H5 gameplay is closer to what I've wanted since 2004. Looking forward to the classic playlist as well.
The 18th Letter
Banned
Every game is super heavy on tactics and positioning.
SpiceMelange
Member
I was referring that it was closer to counter strike in term of tactics and positioning, don't feel offended.
Except they are not as they are all ranked and the maps constantly cater to pro-gamers.
SmartWaffles
Member
High level breakout is a game of camping and see who is less patient. It is super boring to both play and watch. Low TTK and no respawn does not fit Halo's core competitive ruleset.
The 18th Letter
Banned
Breakout was no more tactical or requiring of good position than Slayer or Strongholds.
SpiceMelange
Member
I guess I'll repeat myself
I was referring that it was closer to counter strike in term of tactics and positioning
I see, but I feel that's a problem that could have been rectified by giving the attackers an incentive to press the offensive. Certainly something salvageable.
The 18th Letter
Banned
SpiceMelange
Member
No, the tactics and positioning used in breakout are closer to something like CS than normal Halo gameplay. Maybe the fourth time will be the charm for you to understand?
Ryouji Gunblade
Member
I'm pretty happy about this. It's a good mix of competitive gameplay, impressive forge potential, with Firefight.
This also means more people can try my maps.
The 18th Letter
Banned
Maybe you should actually play Counter Strike
They share literally nothing other than being round based. Like, at all.
SmartWaffles
Member
The risk of attacking is way, way too high with best of 9 formats. In CS it's best of 30 and you have economy into the mix plus it is 5v5.
SpiceMelange
Member
I do actually play Counterstrike tyvm for the concern.
I'd say map design, asymmetrical gun balance and smoke grenades are a big reason why attacking works in CS. The 9 rounds isn't the big problem nor is the economy IMO.
And Reach.
Round based, single life, fast kill times. Do you even play Halo or are you just being deliberately obtuse? The analogy of a CS round makes perfect sense.
Ozzy Onya A2Z
Member
Fucking well deserved 343, you've been putting in the work since launch without objectively faltering on that front. It's almost like you planned Halo 5 as a service 
I've had my personal issues with connectivity and regional playing from Australia on and off but the steady stream of free content through game modes, network tweaks, maps, rank tweaks and fucking brilliant gunplay, sandbox of weapons/vehicles and movement really shines brightly. A masterstroke IMO. You deserve massive appeal for this title in its current form as well as sustained sales for the Xbox One.
I have to say after months of hell with this title your regional selection and Australian matching/dedicated server quality has become top shelf and second to none. Fucking impressive these days and has me coming back each day I have time to play games; with or without a group of friends. You're even getting star players from Australia I used to play with in Halo 3 back to the fold of playing ranked Arena daily. I'm impressed and a happy Halo fan again. Thanks.
I've had my personal issues with connectivity and regional playing from Australia on and off but the steady stream of free content through game modes, network tweaks, maps, rank tweaks and fucking brilliant gunplay, sandbox of weapons/vehicles and movement really shines brightly. A masterstroke IMO. You deserve massive appeal for this title in its current form as well as sustained sales for the Xbox One.
I have to say after months of hell with this title your regional selection and Australian matching/dedicated server quality has become top shelf and second to none. Fucking impressive these days and has me coming back each day I have time to play games; with or without a group of friends. You're even getting star players from Australia I used to play with in Halo 3 back to the fold of playing ranked Arena daily. I'm impressed and a happy Halo fan again. Thanks.
BigTnaples
Todd Howard's Secret GAF Account
Insane. I need to try this out again.
Played a handful of matches back at launch, but for whatever reason, dropped it. Never did that with a halo before..
Played a handful of matches back at launch, but for whatever reason, dropped it. Never did that with a halo before..
blue_phazon
Member
Holy shit a positive Halo thread in Gaming side.
WHAT IS GOING ON
WHAT IS GOING ON
Bits N Pieces
Member
The ongoing support for Halo 5 has been amazing. I'll be playing the game until Halo 6 comes out.
Great job 343i, really great job
Great job 343i, really great job
Leyasu
Banned
Launch will be halo 3 anniversary. Which hopefully will drop the stupid switching so as not waste resources. Halo 6tf will be in 2018..
Me too. Especially when they could have made some real BTB maps instead.
Agreed. I'm still mixed about the spartan charge, but the rest is easily the best mp on consoles at the moment.
Now give us a datacenter selection option 343.
Surface of Me
I'm not an NPC. And neither are we.
It does have a higher learning curve. I had a few friends play the beta and not get it, because they weren't immediately good at it. I'm slowly convinced one to pick it up, though.
Because 343 created Halo Reach. Oh wait...
Chittagong
Gold Member
Ryu Hayabusa
Member
Deserved. Best multiplayer ever since Halo 2
Good stuff 343i.
Good stuff 343i.
Lime Blockade
Banned
I'll give you an answer, breakout is fundamentally different when it comes to game-play mechanics and strategy. While the gun-play is the same, you start off with different weapons, have no shield but slightly more health (which leads to a lower time to kill), and no radar. The pro's complained that it was such a radically different game mode compared to everything that is in rotation, and that too many matches ended up a 1v1 camp fest stalemate.
I personally enjoyed playing this mode a lot with my buddies, but they killed the playlist for my friends and I when they added all those stupid community forge maps. I'm also surprised that 343i hasn't hosted a breakout specific tournament either.
Bits N Pieces
Member
I think the answer is, Yes!
Well it is best MP (from my admittedly brief playtime) since H3.
Pity they messed up SP but MP is solid and 60fps feels great. I wonder if they wouldn't be better served focusing more on MP going forward? The SP feels like a trainwreck narratively now. But I guess they can't leave it hanging.
Pity they messed up SP but MP is solid and 60fps feels great. I wonder if they wouldn't be better served focusing more on MP going forward? The SP feels like a trainwreck narratively now. But I guess they can't leave it hanging.
Shpeshal Nick
aka Collingwood
Naked Lunch
Member
The online vs mp gameplay is just that good. And once you get a feel for H5, and try to play other shooters - a lot of them come up short in comparison. The aim and movement of H5 is simply unparalleled this gen - player skill 100% trumps all in this game. I think that has a lot to do with it.
Good to know.
I'd play more if REQs weren't a thing (No, 343i. I don't believe implementing a gambling system into your game as the only means of unlocking gear is a good thing. Irregardless of where the profits are supposedly going) and if they didn't completely screw up the story.
I'd play more if REQs weren't a thing (No, 343i. I don't believe implementing a gambling system into your game as the only means of unlocking gear is a good thing. Irregardless of where the profits are supposedly going) and if they didn't completely screw up the story.
spazimoose
Member
"since Halo 3" is a pretty telling qualifying statement. It's definitely not doing as well as Microsoft would like. The MP and SP aren't as disappointing as Halo 4 so that probably helps a lot. Hopefully they continue the the trend with Halo 6. 343i seems like they're finally getting the hang of this.
Zvonimir Boban
Banned
Nah, firefight beta was a piece of piss because you could charge blindly into there action knowing if you died you'd be back in no time. There wasn't much downside to dying and it was almost impossible to lose.
Let's hope so. The multiplayer is fantastic and even though it has flaws, I can't wait to see where the campaign story goes next.
anothertech
Member
So, as good as 4? Not surprising. 4's player base was abysmal. At first I thought they meant as good as 3, but that's not possible.
Not sure this is somthing to celebrate.
I really couldn't get into 5 mp. It didn't feel right to me. Might have been the comparison after playing Destiny I think.
Not sure this is somthing to celebrate.
I really couldn't get into 5 mp. It didn't feel right to me. Might have been the comparison after playing Destiny I think.