I'd love to know how new Simpsons is drawn. Do they intend to make it look so bland or is it simply the cheaper option?Mandatory
Moana is probably genuinely the best 3D animated film ever in terms of animation. It's genuinely that next level shit. it's like the culmination of everything the studio learned since Glenn Keane directed Tangled.
Hand drawn simply looks better.
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I think it was this bit with the Doctor.
This is a weird example, as why the classic, hand drawn version is miles better, there's absolutely nothing stopping that from being a 1:1 recreation digitally.
I'm on team whatever this is
Interesting. This is used in management and business classes, though it is "pick one." If you want quality, it will cost you time and money. If you want something quick, it will probably cost you to rush it out, and quality as well. So on and so forth.
I think its funny how I feel Pokémon (and similar kids gotta catch em all-type shows of the era) really reinforced the anime is cheap and bad stereotype in the US because the animation in Sun & Moon is stellar. Pokémon has always been improving from series to series but Id say Best Wishes is where it started getting consistently decent.
That entire sequence was likely the hardest sequence to work on in the entire film. And it's jawdropping.It's easy to use some of the water stuff (and like Tangled was for hair, Moana hit it out of the park for what it did for animating water), but for concept-to-visual, I think this is the best 4 seconds from Moana:
This genuinely isn't true in anyway shape or form.You get a lot more...individual character in hand drawn; I think that's why "hand drawn products" just have a 'genuine--ness' and dedication to the craft that's just not as felt with CG. CG can be more impressive, and it technically it's kinda accurate, but hand-drawn animation is more raw and a design based on the artist's own talent.
So is Pokémon.DBZ is bad because they are animating shows weekly
That entire sequence was likely the hardest sequence to work in the entire film. And it's jawdropping.
This genuinely isn't true in anyway shape or form.
What the hell is going on here.And even anime isn't immune to shit like this.
Is it because people think something is hard, ergo it will produce something good? "Drawing with hands is hard ergo the outcome will definitely be good because it is harder to do!"
This is extremely false. Watch DBZ again.Can it be worse than DBZ? Because the animation in that was just insanely bad in parts (and only ever average on its best days).
What the hell is going on here.
Um, pretty much the entirety of the Disney Renaissance films from the '90s utilise CGI. And some Ghibli films such as Spirited Away.
One great example is that hand-PAINTED Van Gogh movie that's in the works
https://youtu.be/47h6pQ6StCk
As in the turning point of when it finally started to look good and age well or what's currently the best out there?I don't have a dog in this fight, I just watch all the movies and that's my opinion. What do you think is the high-water mark of CGI?
Which scene in Akira is computer animated?
Akira, and Ghost in the Shell both use computer animation.
Pixar, in general.
Argument is bunk.
I feel like it's unfair to use Disney/Pixar or Dreamworks stuff to prove the point that 3D animation can be beautiful. Of course those films are beautiful, they are made with the highest possible budgets with the best 3D animators out there. If you look at lower-budget 3D animated films or even medium budget ones like Sausage Party, you can see a huge loss in quality.
There are both great and terrible examples of both lol.
Anyway, look at these smooth Patlabor gifs
If the premise of the thread is "bad drawings look bad" then I am inclined to agree
However bad drawings look better than bad 3D models.
Is anyone actually arguing that traditional animation is inherently superior and the worst examples of it are better than all cg? I've never heard that.
People massively underestimate how much effort and talent go into producing good animation.
Id definitely put myself in the camp of hand-drawn at its best is better than CG at its best, but thats also completely a personal preference and Im well aware that its not a binary distinction as plenty of hand-drawn films are blends of traditional hand-drawn with CG elements.
That being said I just spammed a bunch of Thief and the Cobbler gifs in a thread earlier and fuck me this movie is so good.
I think its funny how I feel Pokémon (and similar kids gotta catch em all-type shows of the era) really reinforced the anime is cheap and bad stereotype in the US because the animation in Sun & Moon is stellar. Pokémon has always been improving from series to series but Id say Best Wishes is where it started getting consistently decent.
Unless I'm mistaken does GitS also only use CG in those moments where the movie shows literal computer graphics like holograms etc. It was GitS 2.0 that went as far as replacing 2D animated scenes with CG and from what I know do most people prefer the originalTo say that Akira isn't a hand-drawn anime and falls into CGI is reaching. 99% of it is hand drawn. GitS is also primarily hand drawn where CGI is only used in a few spots like computer/map readouts. The majority of each movie is hand drawn and they're gorgeous.
The scene when the bikers ride into the tunnel, the CD jukebox in the bar and the doctors pattern indicator.
Anyway, the whole "Traditional is better" argument comes from a place of ignorance regarding how both styles of animation are produced.
People do massively underestimate how much effort and talent go into producing good cg animation.
I haven't watched Super since Black Goku, did they do something terrible with the animation?