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Heroes of the Storm |OT3| Chromiehounds

Man having to level up 14 chars to 5 for hero league is soooo loooong.

If you really want to do HL you should have way more than that as well.

Initial placements are a huge deal. Once done, it can be incredibly difficult to dig out of a hole if you place silver/gold.

Having a large roster will give you a huge advantage in counter picking for the draft. This isn't DOTA or LoL where you can "make anything work" with items. Drafts can make or break your team in HL. You want a versatile roster as much as you can, especially because often times you will be forced to play a role you might not want to.

Like this is at least what you should have if you want to do the best you can in HL.


Support: Malfurion, Morales, Kharazim, Lucio, Auriel
Specialist: Nazeebo, Azmodan, Probius, Sylvanas
Warrior: Dehaka, Anub'arak, Muradin, Sonya, Diablo, ETC
Asassin: Ming, KT, Gul'dan, Valla, Falstad, Greymane
 
That's effort. I have all those except Anub, Diablo, malfurion, Probious, and Lucio though. I do have at least a couple chars I like for each role though.

I've never spending gold on a char though, unless it's 2k or under, gotta spend on those rerolls baby.
 

Alur

Member
That's effort.

Ehhh, I can't say I agree with that entirely (needing to be capable on a huge swathe of heroes). If nothing else, Try Hard for Good showcased again that by narrowing your pool down to 3-4 staple heroes you are much more likely to climb (provided those heroes are in the meta). Hell, one season I played only Chen in placements and went like 6-0 or something ridiculous when I could get him because he was strong and I was good with him. It's just about taking your comfort picks and finding which work best in the meta and then exploiting them.

Bouncing around from hero to hero isn't something a regular every day player should do IMO, not if you want to go up. Some heroes are just inherently stronger than others, and some roles you're just personally going to be stronger in. Recognizing those heroes that can help you help your team the most (likely ones with either good self sustain and wave clear, or good damage and wave clear) will go a long way.

By no means am I saying you shouldn't at least know how to play that many heroes, but when you enter the draft you should be looking at 3-4 options and they should be diverse enough that you can adapt to the situation. Sometimes they will all get picked/banned/countered and you will have to branch out, but it's best to stay on the well worn path IMO.
 

Rhaknar

The Steam equivalent of the drunk friend who keeps offering to pay your tab all night.
so you guys have been following this for months, if not non stop. You said heroes have been on a fast release schedule of every 3 weeks for the last yer or so, so how soon can we expect the next hero to be revealed?
 
I am rooting for more overwatch characters. Stone me but I want to see soldier 76. Need me a pulse rifle with a skill shot rocket barrage. His biotic healing field fits right in as well.
 

Moonlight

Banned
D.Va is riiiiiidiculously fun to play. Surprised at how similar she works to how she does in Overwatch, too.

And I'm not sure if it's optimal, but GGWP is by far my favourite talent for her. Makes her so much more potent in pilot form and if you get a good streak you can snowball a team-fight really hard by constantly refreshing your MEKA off takedowns.
 

Rhaknar

The Steam equivalent of the drunk friend who keeps offering to pay your tab all night.
I've completely switched to the pilot ult btw, its much more sueful. hell sometimes I dont go in the mech right way just to take pot shots.

edit: D.Va doesnt count as a warrior for QM like Varian btw, just got a match just now against a team with jaina, malf, guldan, valeera, chromie lol
 

kirblar

Member
I've completely switched to the pilot ult btw, its much more sueful. hell sometimes I dont go in the mech right way just to take pot shots.

edit: D.Va doesnt count as a warrior for QM like Varian btw, just got a match just now against a team with jaina, malf, guldan, valeera, chromie lol
It's because it's "Tanks" and "Healers" that count. D.Va is a Warrior, but not a Tank.
 

Milly79

Member
2017 Season 1 ends on 6/13.

Reward?

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Looks sick!
 
By no means am I saying you shouldn't at least know how to play that many heroes, but when you enter the draft you should be looking at 3-4 options and they should be diverse enough that you can adapt to the situation. Sometimes they will all get picked/banned/countered and you will have to branch out, but it's best to stay on the well worn path IMO.

Good observation. This has helped me climb in the last week or so, and it clicked specifically because of the Tryhard streams . I'm comfortable with pretty much every character, but by narrowing it down and honing in, I've seen much better gains.
 

Rhaknar

The Steam equivalent of the drunk friend who keeps offering to pay your tab all night.
Really fun couple of matches this evening with Rhak and Prelude. That last Tomb game was pretty close. GG games.

GGs earlier also.

Ended the night with a win with Prelude which is always a good note to go out on. Although as usual, I got super stressed playing Valeera. Its by far my most stressful hero, like even more than Vikings.

Its also the only one where I feel its all my fault when we lose :/

I dont feel that way with Zera at all /shrug
 

Celegus

Member
legendary from varian level up box

murky announcer :(

What?! That's like one of the best ones! Would love Murky or BW announcer.

I got lil rag and raider rexxar skins from my 10 free boxes, pretty nice! OW boxes were 3 whites and a blue each time except one time there was a purple pile of currency... not that there's much of anything good left in the standard boxes anyway.
 

Prelude.

Member
Widowmaker Nova hype, guess I'll have to get back to her. So now Snipe Master doesn't lose its stacks when hitting non-heroic targets, but I assume it still does when you miss altogether, right?

GGs earlier also.

Ended the night with a win with Prelude which is always a good note to go out on. Although as usual, I got super stressed playing Valeera. Its by far my most stressful hero, like even more than Vikings.

Its also the only one where I feel its all my fault when we lose :/

I dont feel that way with Zera at all /shrug
When you're deep in, your only escape with Valeera is actually trying to stay in there long enough to refresh your D, it gets a lot easier after lv10. I don't know if you noticed, but when you D you have 1 second of actual invisibility where you can't be revealed even if hit, so if you wait for your D inside a smoke bomb, you can pretty much 90% of the times get away safely. Also, Combat Readiness at lv1 is very good. But yeah, she can be pretty useless if you can't find an opening and the objective requires to group up. When you find like all melee comps it's just a miserable experience.
 

Milly79

Member
72.7% WR on D.Va through 11 games. Haven't had this much fun with a hero release in a while...

She's dropped quite a bit on HotsLogs, down to 49%.

Pretty much rocking Alur's build, with the variance on the levels he outlined. Not sure which ult is better. Both pretty useful. I typically just judge if I'm getting blown up a ton in mech form or not.
 
Man Cassia Q quest at lvl1 is so good. Literally a 1 second CD per Q once you get it.

I know charged strikes is better for early but man you can you just spam Q infinitely with thunderstrike.
 

scoobs

Member
72.7% WR on D.Va through 11 games. Haven't had this much fun with a hero release in a while...

She's dropped quite a bit on HotsLogs, down to 49%.

Pretty much rocking Alur's build, with the variance on the levels he outlined. Not sure which ult is better. Both pretty useful. I typically just judge if I'm getting blown up a ton in mech form or not.
I think Bunny Hop CD might be a little high, but ya I feel similarly. Both have their place, I really like big shot for getting my mech back super fast.
 
Just lost a 35 min match on cursed hollow. It hurts. By the end of the match, the enemy nazeebo could solo me with just auto attacks, no skillshots required. He is an absolute monster. 221k hero damage lol



Ohhh this one hurt :(
 

Rizzi

Member
I don't want any more Overwatch characters for a while. More Diablo or Starcraft characters would be better.
I don't think Overwatch has particularly interesting characters.
 

Apathy

Member
Officially the challenge has made me dislike this game. It's turned it into HS for me, log in do quest as solo as possible and leave. Terrible idea by blizzard to make this not be doing vs AI. The amount of shitty people that don't even try is astounding.
 
Officially the challenge has made me dislike this game. It's turned it into HS for me, log in do quest as solo as possible and leave. Terrible idea by blizzard to make this not be doing vs AI. The amount of shitty people that don't even try is astounding.

Or not listening, "I am here vor the overwatch skin" people makes QM unbearable for them too, since they are bullied by HOTS players
 

psyfi

Banned
Man having to level up 14 chars to 5 for hero league is soooo loooong.
I feel you. I've been playing for two weeks and I still have a few to go. It's good experience though, especially since playing heroes is the best way to know how to counter them.
 

scoobs

Member
New Alarak has got to be one of the most fun heroes I've ever played. Hope he doesn't get dumpstered too hard...
Unfortunately the "this hero is so fun!" Heroes are typically that fun because they're overturned. Always feels good to be OP, I think his damage will come down, but we will see.
 

Celegus

Member
Unfortunately the "this hero is so fun!" Heroes are typically that fun because they're overturned. Always feels good to be OP, I think his damage will come down, but we will see.

Heh, true enough. I've always liked his kit, but now he can actually take down heroes by himself instead of only being a setup for teammates. His quests are fun to pull off (if a little easy) and Rite of Rak'Shir is such a cool idea for a talent. Plus his sustain with the level 1 healing talent is insane. Definitely feels overtuned right now, though I haven't looked at win rates or anything yet.
 

Alur

Member

Finally hit level 1000. Milly beat me by a few hours to the mark. Kind of disappointed I don't get my second little gem til 1100, but glad that it does show the full 1000 for levels.

The colors repeating every 500 levels is weird too. My smurf is level 545 rocking the same yellow/gold as my main. Now that I finally got there I can get back to playing those a bit, and maybe doing some solo games too.
 
Anyone ever see a familiar name in your game but can't recall why you made a mental note to remember them?

Then you realize it was because they were a toxic saltlord that is too busy typing in chat to ever win, that says GG after 3 mins, and spam the chat with racial slurs after an ally dies...

Sometimes I just hate Hero league...
 

Blues1990

Member
I need to do the challenges for the loot boxes, but no one on my friends list is online ATM. Anyone care to friend me and help me out?
 

Lumine

Member
I need to do the challenges for the loot boxes, but no one on my friends list is online ATM. Anyone care to friend me and help me out?

Sure. I need them too. In fact I've only done week 1 so far which means I need like 10-15(?) more matches. Europe by the way.
 

Rhaknar

The Steam equivalent of the drunk friend who keeps offering to pay your tab all night.
ugh I think I hate Diablo Or to be more accurate, still hate.

Anub on the other hand, ooh boy. He might be the next take to 10 project.

edit: decided to check the OW loot boxes, got 3 legendaries >_> fu blizz
 

Rizzi

Member
To be fair, you should own Auriel, she's fucking great and her skins are beyond dope.

Maybe when she's on sale. $10 is too much to pay for a character.
I thought Varian wasn't supposed to be considered an assassin for quick match purposes anymore. My last few matches would disagree with that.
 

Alur

Member
Someone last week said the change was going live this week. Didn't realize it hadn't. Wonder what the holdup is?

Edit: Beau on CORE suggesting Blizzard can alter maps without removing them from the rotation the same way they do heroes sounds like an absolute disaster. I get wanting all maps in game, but supposedly part of this rotation is so they can tweak out of rotation maps. They aren't like heroes. If one hero is busted (good or bad, really) after it gets a rework that's only a problem if you play that hero. In most modes it can be banned, or if it's bad no one really plays with it til the inevitable fix. If they bust a map, however, EVERYONE has to deal with it until it is fixed. It's not something so easily avoided and the testing of it can't be as thorough. Tweaking the ones that need it to any real degree while they are live would be awful IMO.
 
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