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[WitchHunter]

I've seen this a lot over the years and it annoys me way more than it should lmao.

Fellow PC players lamenting the poor KBM controls of a PC port for a game that was very clearly intended to be played with, and originally developed for, controller/pad.

It's a small subset, but it's always there at every launch. I play a lot of 3rd Person Action RPGs and characteractionesque games. Without fail, there are several people on Reddit or Steam or wherever that bitch about it.

Everyone has their preferences, but to me, playing these types of games on a KBM is like eating a steak with a screwdriver. Yes, you can technically do it, but why the fuck would you?

It's the same reason I play FPS with KBM. It's simply the superior option!

Yes.

 

[SmokedMeat]

Games like God of War play incredibly well with a Mouse/Keyboard.

The bottom line is if you’re developing for a platform, you should be taking its main control method into consideration.

You’re lazy if you’re not.

 

[DirtyBast8rd]

Always use a controller. Knowing how well controller support was implemented on PC made the switch easy. I don't like keyboard a d mouse.

 

[rodrigolfp]

ARPGs - Controller (Diablo, Path of Exile, etc.)

Controller that have auto aim for every single attack and insanely slower inventory management, sure. -_-'

So I can play relaxed on the couch

I can play relaxed on a couch and, even much better, on a mattress with mouse+kb.

there are people playing racers with a keyboard! This blows my mind personally.

Does it blows your mind that people play Super Mario Kart on SNES with dpad too? It's the same thing. Generally, arcade racing games have no disadvantage in playing with kb.

 

[Mopey bloke]

For some people it's the end of the world if there's bad implementation or no support for kb/m for games. It seems like 90% of steam reviews complain about this.

Bad implementation, we can adapt, but no implementation? I'm still flabbergasted by The Alliance Alive launching without keyboard support. Had to Alt + F4 out of that game. Releasing a game on PC without keyboard support is very inconsiderate.

 

[sendit]

No thanks, you'll have to break all my fingers before I use a gamepad. PC Master Race 4 Life.

 

[Jigsaah]

Controller that have auto aim for every single attack and insanely slower inventory management, sure. -_-'


I can play relaxed on a couch and, even much better, on a mattress with mouse+kb.


Does it blows your mind that people play Super Mario Kart on SNES with dpad too? It's the same thing. Generally, arcade racing games have no disadvantage in playing with kb.

yea true but click to walk is the bane of my existence.

 

[NeoSkyte]

Well yeah that's how I usually play games too. Some games work great with KB+M and others work well with a controller.

 

[John Bilbo]

In the 90s it was common to use mouse and keyboard for pretty much everything other than flight simulators. For the flight simulators we had joysticks.

I remember PCs having different ports for a keyboard, a mouse and a joystick. USB-ports were added way later.

 

[John Bilbo]

Now I miss the feeling of touching mouse balls.

 

[64bitmodels]

Now I miss the feeling of touching mouse balls.

kanjobazooie your long lost brother

 

[Hudo]

Weak, i beat Sekiro with KBM.

No offense but that's pretty impressive.

 

[Mediocre Arachno-Lad]

Fps with kbm is nonsense these days. We have actually designed controllers that have triggers that feel incredibly realistic, with rumble to replicate recoil to some extent. Nope - I want to left click a mouse to fire a rifle!

Ah yes, a rifle that you aim by thumbing a nipple.
So immersive, much wow.

 

[TrebleShot]

In 2024 if you are using a keyboard and mouse over something like the dualsense with gyro haptics and analogue input you really are a nerd with no self respect.

Imagine hunched over a desk or at an angle with your little claw fingers and long nails clacking away as you spin your mouse hand to 360 no scope. Could never be me, Ill take comfort and immersion any day over a precise tool designed around excel and coding.

Say it quietly but Gyro is better than mouse anyway.

 

[64bitmodels]

Ah yes, a rifle that you aim by thumbing a nipple.
So immersive, much wow.

I didn't know nipples were so large in your world

 

[DaGwaphics]

I'll always use a controller on PC in most console games, with the exception of RTS and things like that.

 

[Guilty_AI]

In 2024 if you are using a keyboard and mouse over something like the dualsense with gyro haptics and analogue input you really are a nerd with no self respect.

Imagine hunched over a desk or at an angle with your little claw fingers and long nails clacking away as you spin your mouse hand to 360 no scope. Could never be me, Ill take comfort and immersion any day over a precise tool designed around excel and coding.

Say it quietly but Gyro is better than mouse anyway.

Gyro? Ew. Whats next, play with touch-screens?

 

[rodrigolfp]

In 2024 if you are using a keyboard and mouse over something like the dualsense with gyro haptics and analogue input you really are a nerd with no self respect.

Imagine hunched over a desk or at an angle with your little claw fingers and long nails clacking away as you spin your mouse hand to 360 no scope. Could never be me, Ill take comfort and immersion any day over a precise tool designed around excel and coding.

Say it quietly but Gyro is better than mouse anyway.

You are funny.
Enjoy claw grip, L3/R3/drift and aim assist(s).
I play with mouse+kb on a mattress. Pinnacle of comfort.
Gyro is so much better than mouse that CS and Quake champions switched to it. /s

 

[SupremeHoodie]

I’m talking about competitive fps gaming here. Controller is very hard for gamers that played mostly kbm. Heck controller is hard for controller players. There is a very large skill gap.

Personally for me I switched over to kbm 6-7 years ago. Before that I was a controller player for 20+ years. This year in COD controller has a big advantage so I tried switching back. I’m slowly getting me feel back but it’s tough, and I was a good fps controller player (halo, cod, bf, etc) during my controller days. So I can imagine how tough it would be for people that were never good with controller to begin with.

 

[tvdaXD]

It's simple, if you port something over, it's literally your job to make it work. So if it doesn't, you just delivered a bad job and should be called out for it.
Sure there are games that were made for controllers first, but for each there are another similar 100 games like it that work just fine with a mouse and keyboard. Even better, some console games also just support keyboard and mouse without even being ported to PC.
Then there's accessibility, obviously the more ways to play the better.

 

[BacklashWave534]

KBM is superior for almost everything, bar games like rocket league and fifa. If people lower themselves to peasantry beyond those games, that's up to them.

Except for comfort. Nothing like being hunched over for long play sessions. Otherwise i say use whatever the heck you enjoy.

 

[rodrigolfp]

Except for comfort. Nothing like being hunched over for long play sessions.

So don't. How hard is that?

 

[JimboJones]

I used controller 99% of the time but I can understand why this shit annoys people.
It should just be a standard to have a serviceable mouse and keyboard layout.

It's like when console games can't be bothered to make a proper menu and make you use the right stick as some slow mouse looks at hogwarts legacy

 

[BacklashWave534]

So don't. How hard is that?

I was just giving a single downside to contrast the numberous upsides to keyboard and mouse. Don't get your pannies in a bunch.

 

[rodrigolfp]

I was just giving a single downside to contrast the numberous upsides to keyboard and mouse. Don't get your pannies in a bunch.

You don't need to have this downside. There are lapboards and other ways to play with comfort.

 

[TrebleShot]

You are funny.
Enjoy claw grip, L3/R3/drift and aim assist(s).
I play with mouse+kb on a mattress. Pinnacle of comfort.
Gyro is so much better than mouse that CS and Quake champions switched to it. /s

Are you a Quake world champion yet

 

[Ev1L AuRoN]

I play fps games on PS5 on KB+MOUSE and lament that more games don't support it.

 

[rodrigolfp]

Are you a Quake world champion yet

Yes. With gyro. /s

 

[Dorago]

I got this two weeks ago to replace my POS Dual Shock 4.

It's way better than I thought it would be for $40.

 

[Randall365]

Ah yes, a rifle that you aim by thumbing a nipple.
So immersive, much wow.

Who doesn't thumb their nipple whilst aiming a rifle?!

 

[Nevadatan]

hey, as long you dont pretend im gonna play a FPS with a controller, im quite fine using one of my controllers on PC

 

[Kenpachii]

I hate having my hands close together so no thanks.

 

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