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Holiday BOMBA: Playstation AllStars Charts 38th Week 1 UK
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TemplaerDude
Member
I cannot recall a single person in history ever saying anything along the lines of "Gosh, you know what I want on the Playstation? A smash bros clone!"
This doesn't surprise me.
This doesn't surprise me.
grimshawish
Banned
Lots of shitty sales sure.
But this line of reasoning ignores all the games above All Stars.
You know like that derided Playstation Platform Handheld game Declassified.
The UK markets skews/issues don't really explain how Sony's apparently major holiday release came 38th in sales. The fact that everything is struggling to sell just tells you how poorly it did.
I think that existed.
But what didn't exist? 'And I want Radec, Sweet Tooth, Fat Princess, Not Dante, Raiden, that kid from Ape Escape' etc in it. And to be fair, I like some of those characters, and I think the gameplay's pretty fun, but holy shit did they blow it on the getting big characters to pad out the smaller ones in this.
Honestly, the game's roster feels like free advertising for the publishers(Capcom, Konami) rather than celebrating Sony's mascots and third party franchises. I'm surprised when I finish a match as Raiden or Dante it doesn't say 'DMC/MGR in stores <insert date here>'
I don't think there is anything wrong with including these characters.
I had a feeling this was gonna happen. The ads, the vibe of the presentation and feel of the game... it was just so...bland.
Its (supposedly) a larger than life mascot mash-up extravaganza like Smash Bros, but with absolutely no pomp and ceremony.
The character selction being pretty awful didnt help either
Its (supposedly) a larger than life mascot mash-up extravaganza like Smash Bros, but with absolutely no pomp and ceremony.
The character selction being pretty awful didnt help either
Nothing unexpected. The exposure we have here on GAF to this game is absurd considering what the real world interest in it should be. The whole "Sony copying Nintendo again" and the Paul Gale debacle artificially increased its relevance in terms of threads and posts by thread. The game should be fun and I intend to buy it for my Vita/PS3 but it was always meant to be nothing more than fan service to Sony fans and not a mainstream game with mass market appeal. Sony totally conceded this holiday.
Sony needed to make a Smash game back in 2005 for the PS2. When they still had exclusives and relevant icons.
Here's who could've been in a 2005 Sony Smash game:
Jak
Daxter
Big Boss
The Boss
Raiden
Auron
Tidus
Sora
Sly Cooper
Solid Snake
Solidus Snake
Volgin
The Wanderer
Ico
Rachet
Clank
Dante
Kratos
Ares
Some of these are in Sony Smash 2012, but Sony use to have a lot more mascots/exclusive characters that were much more usable in a Smash game in 2005 compared to Sony of 2012.
Here's who could've been in a 2005 Sony Smash game:
Jak
Daxter
Big Boss
The Boss
Raiden
Auron
Tidus
Sora
Sly Cooper
Solid Snake
Solidus Snake
Volgin
The Wanderer
Ico
Rachet
Clank
Dante
Kratos
Ares
Some of these are in Sony Smash 2012, but Sony use to have a lot more mascots/exclusive characters that were much more usable in a Smash game in 2005 compared to Sony of 2012.
Impeccable
Member
Shocking news: UK market is in shambles.
Interested in the US NPD for a more reliable sales number.
Interested in the US NPD for a more reliable sales number.
radioheadrule83
Banned
There hasn't been a good market report in a while (since around 2010 when Canada's industry overtook the UK in terms of jobs), I suspect this isn't true anymore.
slaughterking
Member
This bomba makes Level 5 proud. Hino could not have done this better himself.
Schlachtor
Banned
UK -> world!
But I can see why this thread has been made.....
Let's wait a few months and see how the ww numbers are going to be.
grimshawish
Banned
Now you've got me imagining Layton in Smash.
Didnt sony open up a new studio and recruted a bunch of people just to work on this?
I hate to be that guy but if it really did bomb its well deserved. And its got nothing to do with the stupid rip off arguments you all bitch and moan about.
The game is simply not fun or friendly enough for casuals and non gamers. The kill system completely ruins the game, they should have just made it a building percentage bar like smash bros with rings outs and not super move kills that can easily fail.
Trying to please the fighting community was a terrible decision. When casual and the average serious gamer do not find it fun you have a problem. A small minority praised it during the beta but there was tons of feedback they could have taken on to make the game fun.
The game is simply not fun or friendly enough for casuals and non gamers. The kill system completely ruins the game, they should have just made it a building percentage bar like smash bros with rings outs and not super move kills that can easily fail.
Trying to please the fighting community was a terrible decision. When casual and the average serious gamer do not find it fun you have a problem. A small minority praised it during the beta but there was tons of feedback they could have taken on to make the game fun.
lowrider007
Licorice-flavoured booze?
That's really quite sad, tbh I thought it would chart better than that, Sony really are losing it with some of their decisions these days, LBK for example was sent to die, it was obvious to us, but not to Sony, hell I thought it was a Vita game until recently.
MagicWithEarvin
Member
This does not ease my concern for the future of the game.
Schlachtor
Banned
Lord Ghirahim
Member
I think it's amazing it actually made the top 50.
Castor Krieg
Banned
I see same old with Sony.
Sho_Nuff82
Member
I think I remember reading Germany outpaced UK in 2011 but I doubt France or Spain is all that close.
BlazingDarkness
Member
Not surprised, I've seen no marketing for it at all.
grimshawish
Banned
Yup. The fan service thing is something people have been saying for a while.
I've always found it to be that odd 'Sony loves us all' mentality you see at E3 every year.
Sony wanted this to be a commercial success.
If they didn't they wouldn't be releasing it this time of year first of all; and they wouldn't be making at all.
Their a business.
I mean I don't think Sony fully understand their audience, who they are or have the ability to cut between 'FANS'/'fans' and 'customers'; so maybe it was 'fan service' but it is designed to be profitable 'fan service'.
Clippy has more name value than half of the All Star roster.
shinra-bansho
Member
No Lara Croft, no Cloud Strife, no Crash Bandicoot, no Solid Snake... no sales isn't that surprising.
slaughterking
Member
I don't understand how this can not surprise someone. This game is three places shy of not charting at all.
We will see this E3, but I feel like you might be right. At least their console is not out by then.
I also think it's tragic that The Last of Us was not ready for this holiday.
Now you are getting fucking ridiculous.
If Microsoft ever does make a Smash game, it would be incredibly smart to just have a huge 3rd party lineup for characters. Even though Microsoft can scrape the barrel and actually get a decent amount of characters lined up, no one wants to play as 2008 Banjo or Kameo or any other lost 1st party mascot.
BlazingDarkness
Member
Heck, I didn't even know the thing had released.
SkylineRKR
Member
Doesn't surprise me. I see ads for CoD, AC, Hitman.. even MoH. But nothing at all for a game like this. Its out since last week, but I didn't even know. Game didn't make top 10 in Holland either.
Its typical Sony fare, and although I can't speak for the quality of this game I'm kind of tired of their exclusives as well. I used to buy them all but stopped caring about a year ago. LBP Kart, Killzone 3, Socom 4, TM... they are mostly forgettable to me. I could be wrong but Wonderbook seemed to be sent out to die after all as well?
Its typical Sony fare, and although I can't speak for the quality of this game I'm kind of tired of their exclusives as well. I used to buy them all but stopped caring about a year ago. LBP Kart, Killzone 3, Socom 4, TM... they are mostly forgettable to me. I could be wrong but Wonderbook seemed to be sent out to die after all as well?
Neko Mimi Mode
Member
Not surprising, the roster just screamed half-assed.
Also not surprising that some diehard Sony fans are choosing to cast the blame for this monumental dropped ball on the consumers/the United Kingdom/anyone but Sony. Still sad though.
Also not surprising that some diehard Sony fans are choosing to cast the blame for this monumental dropped ball on the consumers/the United Kingdom/anyone but Sony. Still sad though.
grimshawish
Banned
Sega Land.
Karting is more popular anyway and Sonic lends itself to that audience more; the truth is that whilst fitting their individual franchises - Sony characters are a macabre bunch.
Them all together is hardly an attractive or interesting proposition.
Sony
Schlachtor
Banned
"Nup"! Because (and I repeat): Superbot is a independent game studio.
Just to make sure:
PS All-Stars is still a good game.
So let's wait after christmas to see the ww numbers.
Sho_Nuff82
Member
Sony should have put Dante and Raiden front and center on this game. I don't know who that commercial with the guy dressed as Fat Princess is supposed to sell the game to, it's like if MS made a fighter and put IloMilo front and center over Sam Fisher.
DXB-KNIGHT
Member
Oh common just give it some time a game like that requires aaaa
Hmmm umm eh, (scratches head and leave thread quietly.
Hmmm umm eh, (scratches head and leave thread quietly.
No one would have recognized Raiden or Dante either.
There's heavy rumors already that Nintendo have already secured a large number of third party characters for their next fighting game, including.
Namco Bandai - Lloyd Irving
Capcom - Chris Redfield, Ryu
Sega - Bayonetta, Sonic
Konami - Solid Snake, Eva
Ubisoft - Altair, The Prince
Activision - Tony Hawk
Ban Puncher
Member
Poor game.
Poor marketing.
Poor sales.
YOU WA SHOCK
Poor marketing.
Poor sales.
YOU WA SHOCK
lowrider007
Licorice-flavoured booze?
This is true for me also, It feels like they are stuck in a rut and I'm not sure what they can do to get out of it tbh, it seems so hard to create a new successful IP these days, and they can't afford to maintain these studios in their current condition.
I remember reading through Sony All Star threads and for some reason I have no clue whose actually in the game anymore. I know Radec and Raiden are in it, and the purple stalagmite. But I keep thinking Resistance characters or Nathan Drake are in it but they aren't.
Sweet-tooth is another one I remember. Sly Cooper?
Sweet-tooth is another one I remember. Sly Cooper?