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Horseticuffs
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Guys, by all measures I should be completely into the walking dead show. I watched like 3 episodes when it came out and then called it a day.
I'm really loving the adventure game, though. It's almost too stressful and intense. Should I catch up on the two seasons on Netflix or maybe buy the digital comics on my tablet?
Which is better? Should I hit up the comics then supplement with the show?
Is there any way to buy digital copies of the old EC comics?
Is Locke & Key worth picking up?
Edit: Decided to ring in the New Year with a bang. I bought both.
I'm really loving the adventure game, though. It's almost too stressful and intense. Should I catch up on the two seasons on Netflix or maybe buy the digital comics on my tablet?
Which is better? Should I hit up the comics then supplement with the show?
Is there any way to buy digital copies of the old EC comics?
Is Locke & Key worth picking up?
Edit: Decided to ring in the New Year with a bang. I bought both.
Melchiah
Member
The Golem (1915)
The Cabinet of Dr. Caligari (1920)
Nosferatu: A Symphony of Horror (1922)
Nekromantik (1987)
Horseticuffs
Full werewolf off the buckle
that's too bad! I recently watched the fog myself, and really really enjoyed it. I didn't think that I would like the whole pirate thing but it was pretty cool. Maybe you'd prefer the remake?
Anyways, I really got the whole Halloween movie vibe from it. I guess they filmed 1 right after the other.
Melchiah
Member
I'd recommend these from the 80's.
The Evil Dead
The Shining
The Howling
The Thing
The Fly
Hellraiser
Prince of Darkness
Pet Sematary
Poltergeist I+II
Angel Heart
Amityville II: The Possession
Pumpkinhead
The Beyond
Demons
Christine
Cujo
Nightbreed (1990)
Near Dark
Entity
EDIT: Jacob's Ladder (1990)
Horror comedy:
Re-animator
Return of the Living Dead
An American Werewolf in London
Evil Dead II
Night of the Demons
Creepshow I+II
Fright Night
Puppet Master
The odd ones:
Altered States
Videodrome
In a Glass Cage (AKA Tras el cristal)
plagiarize
Banned
No love for Child's Play, From Beyond (make sure to catch the directors cut), Dolls, Phantasm 2, The Blob, Night of the Creeps, Waxwork or House? If you haven't seen any of them, judging from your good taste in 80s movies you almost certainly would like any of those.
To be honest though, I don't really know what to recommend to someone that doesn't like The Fog.
Also, hi. I used to write for a horror website and it never once occurred to me to check off-topic for a horror thread. Dread Central, in case anyone was wondering.
Melchiah
Member
Well, I've seen them all, except the director's cut of From Beyond, but none of them were that much to my liking.
And personally, I didn't like The Fog that much either.Dread Central is one of my favorite horror websites BTW, especially after Bloody Disgusting started having too many spoilers in their reviews, and too much unnecessary & unrelated stuff on their website in general.
plagiarize
Banned
well plug that gap then. The R rated cut is a travesty.Well, I've seen them all, except the director's cut of From Beyond, but none of them were that much to my liking.
Dread Central is one of my favorite horror websites BTW, especially after Bloody Disgusting started having too many spoilers in their reviews, and too much unnecessary & unrelated stuff on their website in general.
Melchiah
Member
Perhaps I'll have to try to find it somewhere. What I'd really like to see is the director's cut of Nightbreed.
Too bad I wasn't around, when it was shown here at a horror movie festival. =(
God the theatrical version is terrible. I loved the book in an angsty teenage sort of way.
Melchiah
Member
It's not perfect, but I liked the bestiary, and the occasional otherworldly feel.
Blue Submarine No. 6
Member
Hehehehe... thanks for this OP...
I'm an old, old, OLD school horror fan from the days of Shock Theater (and all the syndicated packages it spawned) featuring the original Universal Monsters and the wealth of 4:3 cropped B&W "sci-fi" films that were born out of the collective neuroses of '50s Cold War America... I'm also a huge fan of the classic Hammer films. Hell, I was a Starlog subscriber when they were launching Fangoria Magazine back in '79, and part of a letter I wrote to the editors then was actually published in Fangoria #1. So I've been a horror fan since before most of the movies being discussed here were even filmed... and things have really, really changed...
I honestly haven't followed much of what's been made since about 1988 or so, but I've an abiding love for the gendre. I'm a firm believer in the theory that the best horror films are often the least ambitious - the smallest and most obscure can be really brilliant! And I've always subscribed to the Val Lewton "less is more" school of screen horror; I loved Paranormal Activity and Blair Witch, for instance, but thought Descent was merely decent, and I can't be bothered even trying to sit through "tortue porn" like the Saw films. I'll keep an eye on this thread for some hints at some of the better contemporary films to try and catch.
I'm an old, old, OLD school horror fan from the days of Shock Theater (and all the syndicated packages it spawned) featuring the original Universal Monsters and the wealth of 4:3 cropped B&W "sci-fi" films that were born out of the collective neuroses of '50s Cold War America... I'm also a huge fan of the classic Hammer films. Hell, I was a Starlog subscriber when they were launching Fangoria Magazine back in '79, and part of a letter I wrote to the editors then was actually published in Fangoria #1. So I've been a horror fan since before most of the movies being discussed here were even filmed... and things have really, really changed...
I honestly haven't followed much of what's been made since about 1988 or so, but I've an abiding love for the gendre. I'm a firm believer in the theory that the best horror films are often the least ambitious - the smallest and most obscure can be really brilliant! And I've always subscribed to the Val Lewton "less is more" school of screen horror; I loved Paranormal Activity and Blair Witch, for instance, but thought Descent was merely decent, and I can't be bothered even trying to sit through "tortue porn" like the Saw films. I'll keep an eye on this thread for some hints at some of the better contemporary films to try and catch.
plagiarize
Banned
I hope you've seen Cabin in the Woods. Stick with it through the first half which you might find a little torture porny, but it isn't torture porn at all. I mean, it isn't less is more either, but nothing about it is cheap or manipulative. An older one you might love is the BBC original drama 'Ghostwatch' if you missed that one. it's terrifying even if you didn't think everything you were watching was live and real as I did when I first saw it on the original airing.
Count Dookkake
Member
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Hey guys, I just got Netflix and I'd like to watch a good horror show.
My preferences are creature features (Thing, Alien), supernatural frighteners (Orphanage, Japanese stuff, Prince of Darkness) and only some slashers (guilty pleasure: Final Destination flicks). I can't stand that cynical, dirty, bleak gorno-y stuff like Eden Lake, it makes me almost physically ill. Also no disease horror, I found out in Cabin Fever that the stuff makes me skin crawl too well. I also seem to like some found footage stuff... or at least Grave Encounters was great to me.
The Netflix variety is just too huge to pick anything on random... :s Any ideas?
My preferences are creature features (Thing, Alien), supernatural frighteners (Orphanage, Japanese stuff, Prince of Darkness) and only some slashers (guilty pleasure: Final Destination flicks). I can't stand that cynical, dirty, bleak gorno-y stuff like Eden Lake, it makes me almost physically ill. Also no disease horror, I found out in Cabin Fever that the stuff makes me skin crawl too well. I also seem to like some found footage stuff... or at least Grave Encounters was great to me.
The Netflix variety is just too huge to pick anything on random... :s Any ideas?
plagiarize
Banned
well, frankly, while I like films that get called torture porn I'm not the best at deciding if something is or isn't torture porn, but verging into spoiler territory
the Buckner's history and the acts they have supposedly carried out, sound very much like something from a torture porn movie.
it looks like it might be heading in that direction then doesn't, that's all I was trying to say.
Count Dookkake
Member
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plagiarize
Banned
I should have phrased it better, but given that a lot of people call Wrong Turn torture porn, and that Cabin in the Woods superficially looks like it's going to be something along those lines, I just wanted to make sure he knew to stick with it.
Melchiah
Member
I, and most of my friends, didn't like the movie at all. It wasn't particularly funny, and IMO it failed as a fan service as well. Seems like today's horror comedies tend to annoy me more than amuse me, unlike those of the 80's.
EDIT:
I wish it was so here in Europe as well. =/
PansenHansen
Banned
well, it seems like there arent many horror films from germany.
we mainy did splatter/gore b-movies.
check out olaf ittenbach for example.
they all got bad acting and a bad story but they are very bloody
plagiarize
Banned
I think it's interesting in that an awful lot of it *could* be read as a criticism of the audience that take pleasure from watching other people's torment. I liked it personally because I thought it was *smart* more than because I thought it was funny... but each to their own. You're talking to someone here who doesn't believe in guilty pleasures (I like what I like... I'm never guilty about it) who will defend the Tremors sequels and even Beyond Re-Animator, so don't think me getting enjoyment from something leads me to think less of someone that doesn't.
Cabin in the Woods was terribly advertised. They sold it as a fun throwaway horror film, when it tries to do so much more (we can debate if it succeeds). If I'd thought it was supposed to be dumb fun and I'd gone in expecting that, I would have probably hated it too. Fortunately I'd seen the earlier trailers that made the premise a lot clearer, and hadn't seen any of the TV adverts that just tried to paint it as a 'dumb teenagers in a cabin in the woods' kind of movie.
plagiarize
Banned
From what I've seen of the first few rows of Netflix I would recommend any of the following as being worthy of a watch if you haven't seen them:
Tucker & Dale vs Evil
Stake Land
Re-Animator
The Evil Dead
Slither
Hellraiser
Let The Right One In
Black Death
An American Werewolf in London
The Stuff
The Faculty
Demon Knight
Prince of Darkness
Session 9
Creature from the Black Lagoon
House
Audition
Nosferatu
Tremors 2
The Fog
Candyman
Jeepers Creepers
bolded come highly recommended by me, the rest strongly recommended.
Tucker & Dale vs Evil
Stake Land
Re-Animator
The Evil Dead
Slither
Hellraiser
Let The Right One In
Black Death
An American Werewolf in London
The Stuff
The Faculty
Demon Knight
Prince of Darkness
Session 9
Creature from the Black Lagoon
House
Audition
Nosferatu
Tremors 2
The Fog
Candyman
Jeepers Creepers
bolded come highly recommended by me, the rest strongly recommended.
Melchiah
Member
It was partly, or perhaps mostly, due to the actors. The stoner in particular annoyed the hell out of me, and the rest of the teen cast weren't that much better either. I dunno why I tend to find teens in modern movies extremely annoying. Perhaps because I'm older now? Although teens in the European or Asian movies don't bother me to such extent.
I liked the idea of the movie though, just not its execution and the cast. And I kinda wish they had chosen something other than
zombies, which have become too familiar of a foe.
plagiarize
Banned
I think it's because they're getting too photogenic (thus less believable) and because most people making movies still haven't figured out that the best horror movies have kids that you actually LIKE and don't want to see get killed. Cabin at least had a good excuse for it's clichéd cast.
Melchiah
Member
Agreed.
On a side note, has anyone seen Trier's Epidemic, P2, and Idle Hands? They are available on the European Netflix right now.
P2 is all sorts of god awful; the only redeeming factor about it is seeing Rachel Nichols in a low-cut dress for most of the film.
Idle Hands is not horror at all, but it's fun in a really stupid way.
Melchiah
Member
Well, I think I might check out Idle Hands at least. Thanks.
Horseticuffs
Full werewolf off the buckle
Haven't had much of a chance to sit down with Locke & Key as yet, but I'm enjoying what I've read so far. A few very cool moments so far.
Like many things in my life, it sorta reminds me of House of Leaves.
God damn it, I need to buy that book again.
Like many things in my life, it sorta reminds me of House of Leaves.
God damn it, I need to buy that book again.
plagiarize
Banned
the original did it so much better, but The Grudge did other scares better.
Watch Ju-On: The Grudge 2 and Ju-On: The Curse 2 also. Don't watch The Grudge 2 (or 3), and you can watch Ju-On: The Curse if you like, but the first half hour of The Curse 2 is a recap of the first curse, and 2 is the better film, so I'd recommend you skip it.
Release order is Ju-On: The Curse, Ju-On: The Curse 2, Ju-On: The Grudge, Ju-On: The Grudge 2, The Grudge, The Grudge 2.
I haven't seen the two Japanese spin offs yet. White and Black whatever they were called. Ju-On: The Grudge 2 is the best in the whole series. You don't need to watch Ju-On: The Grudge, because the Japanese version isn't particularly different at all plot wise. You can watch the Japanese Grudge 2 without seeing it.
I actually like the stuff on that list that I've seen. Tremors, House, Prince of Darkness, Jeepers Creepers, Stake Land... good stuff! I think I'll like the rest too. I think I might go for Re-Animator first maybe, since I know the name enough to know it's a classic.
Plasticine
Member
The first six minutes of the Maniac remake are available.
I wasn't really crazy about this when it was announced, but I'm starting to warm up to the movie. Elijah Wood really seems to work in the role, which I guess shouldn't be too surprising. He was really effective as Kevin in Sin City. The first person POV works quite well, adding a real sense of unease to things. Oh, and I dig the opening theme. Does anyone know when this will see a US release?
I wasn't really crazy about this when it was announced, but I'm starting to warm up to the movie. Elijah Wood really seems to work in the role, which I guess shouldn't be too surprising. He was really effective as Kevin in Sin City. The first person POV works quite well, adding a real sense of unease to things. Oh, and I dig the opening theme. Does anyone know when this will see a US release?
Oddly enough, I don't think I've heard anything about a US release for the remake yet, which is pretty surprising given how involved Bill Lustig has been with the production.
I wonder how it would have turned out if they went with Lustig's pick for Frank in Tom Sizemore, but I'm sure he's practically unworkable at this point in his career.
I wonder how it would have turned out if they went with Lustig's pick for Frank in Tom Sizemore, but I'm sure he's practically unworkable at this point in his career.
muntersaur
Member
Agreed on all counts. This seems extremely well shot, Elijah seems to fit the part, and the music was awesome. I had relatively no interest in this film but by the end of the six minutes I had a smile on my face, and i'm looking forward to seeing it when it comes out.
I've seen a lot of these, and don't get me wrong some of them scared the crap out of me as a kid. But watching them now, I just don't enjoy them as much as the newer stuff. I guess it's the FX but yeah I'm a bad critic.
plagiarize
Banned
It's amazing how much great music can do for a film. I'm really liking what I see of this so far. Thanks for sharing.
Mmm looks and sounds great.
So what other horror movies are coming out in 2013 that people should be hyped for or interested in?
SOLD
plagiarize
Banned
Going to see Texas Chainsaw 3D tonight, in 3D naturally. I will report back. I am expecting a very entertaining car wreck.
Dynamite Ringo Matsuri
Member
OT but Definitely. It's one of my favorite comics ever and a definite stand out in the last decade. If you're lucky, your local library might even carry it if you're unsure
Absolutely, 100% buy and read this. Brilliant horror comics. If you want other, newish horror comics Snyder's American Vampire is excellent.
Horseticuffs
Full werewolf off the buckle
I did end up buying and enjoying volume 1 of both Locke & Key and Walking Dead. I'm holding off on buying further volumes for a bit, though.
I enjoyed Locke & Key so much I bought a bunch of Joe Hill's novels. Currently way into Heart-Shaped box.
Not enough hours in the day. I need to go fall asleep in a library basement.
I enjoyed Locke & Key so much I bought a bunch of Joe Hill's novels. Currently way into Heart-Shaped box.
Not enough hours in the day. I need to go fall asleep in a library basement.
Plasticine
Member
Because Texas Chainsaw 3D came out today, I decided to watch one of the Chainsaw flicks last night. My initial impulse was to watch the original, since TC3D is a direct sequel. But, I thought that wouldn't be fair. So I watched the Platinum Dunes remake. I hadn't watched it since it hit theaters, so I was curious if my opinion had changed any.
It didn't.
The Platinum Dunes version is still loud, dumb and ugly. The changes made to the story don't work and only served to slow down and over complicate the storyline. The original is brilliant because of how raw and straightforward it is. The remake is bloated and ridiculous at every turn. But beyond this, the films largest failing is how it handled the family. It eschewed the meat and tried to play a sympathy card for Leatherface. It was, and remains, a really bad film.
With the bar set pretty low, I ventured into Texas Chainsaw 3D.
It didn't.
The Platinum Dunes version is still loud, dumb and ugly. The changes made to the story don't work and only served to slow down and over complicate the storyline. The original is brilliant because of how raw and straightforward it is. The remake is bloated and ridiculous at every turn. But beyond this, the films largest failing is how it handled the family. It eschewed the meat and tried to play a sympathy card for Leatherface. It was, and remains, a really bad film.
With the bar set pretty low, I ventured into Texas Chainsaw 3D.
While it isn't as bad as the Platinum Dunes outing, it's still not very good. The biggest failing is the film being set in the modern day. If it had taken place in the 1990s, I think it would have worked better. The logistics of Leatherface still doing his thing would make sense. Plus the two instances of modern technology, the most ridiculous use of an iPhone in cinematic history and useless GPS usage, would have been eliminated. But beyond the story concerns, the film simply tries too hard. Shots are recreated, sets painstakingly resemble their original counterparts, and lots of references to Hooper's film are made. It comes off as the most expensive fan film never uploaded to YouTube.
How's Kill List? I heard pretty good things about it, but it's still not available where I live.
plagiarize
Banned
I've undone your spoiler tags, because they aren't spoilers at all. you're right. it should have been set in the late nineties. aside from the gas prices, and those two things you point out, both of which could have been replaced with police radio usage, you'd have fixed one of the dumbest continuity errors in recent memory.
with clearly visible dates on tombstones and police records the film establishes that the beginning takes place in 1973 and that the rest of the film takes place in 2012. the main character of the film should be 40 and clearly isn't.
but that's okay, because the film was hilarious at times. it's funny to me that I said I was expecting an entertaining car wreck, because the film actually had an entertaining car wreck.
the unintentional comic timing of many moments was priceless. the complete lack of logic at other times was almost thrilling in it's ludicrousness.
verging into real spoiler territory now:
when being chased by someone with a chainsaw, dangling off a ferris wheel as a means to escape them is really really stupid.
at the beginning of the film the sheriff wants to bring Leatherface in and arrest him. at the end of the film, he lets him go... for no discernible reason at all. seriously. there is no reason why he doesn't arrest him. he just tells Heather to clean up the crime scene.
I mean, what do they tell the families of her friends? Even if Leatherface only directly killed one of her friends, it still doesn't make any sense at all for them not to arrest him, nor for Heather, nor the Sheriff to be against his arrest.
Why did Grandma 'I am going to protect him from society' buy him all those chainsaws? Even if he likes chainsaws we know he's liable to hurt himself with them.
At the beginning, why are the police only trying to arrest Leatherface when Drayton tied her up and kidnapped her?
Why is the burn on her breast the same size as the necklace when she got it as a baby?
Why the hell did Deputy Dewey undo her shirt and why wasn't she wearing a bra? I mean, it wasn't even sexy, her boobs looked terrible outside of the bra and you didn't see any nipple.
at the beginning of the film the sheriff wants to bring Leatherface in and arrest him. at the end of the film, he lets him go... for no discernible reason at all. seriously. there is no reason why he doesn't arrest him. he just tells Heather to clean up the crime scene.
I mean, what do they tell the families of her friends? Even if Leatherface only directly killed one of her friends, it still doesn't make any sense at all for them not to arrest him, nor for Heather, nor the Sheriff to be against his arrest.
Why did Grandma 'I am going to protect him from society' buy him all those chainsaws? Even if he likes chainsaws we know he's liable to hurt himself with them.
At the beginning, why are the police only trying to arrest Leatherface when Drayton tied her up and kidnapped her?
Why is the burn on her breast the same size as the necklace when she got it as a baby?
Why the hell did Deputy Dewey undo her shirt and why wasn't she wearing a bra? I mean, it wasn't even sexy, her boobs looked terrible outside of the bra and you didn't see any nipple.
It was nice seeing the continuity touches... seeing some of the same cast back playing the same and different characters... but the entire premise of the film is fucked up by that dating.
No one looks 40 years older. No one.
Also, I say this as a big fan of 3D, the post conversion was MEH. Aside from a couple of gimmick shots, it was either under done (mostly this), or way over done (which was really distracting on the rare shots where this was the case). It's not often you notice crosstalk in the cinema, but on some of the 'in your face' shots, they went way too far with the separation. only a few of the gimmick shots were spared such overblown tactics. save your money and go see it in 2D, if you do go see it.
I agree that the attempts to humanize leatherface a bit are misguided in the Platinum Dunes version but I disagree that it is a bad movie. I actually think it's one of the most intense and unrelenting horror movies I've seen. It just has a crushing atmosphere about it. It also looks great and is fairly well acted. Not to mention some good gore and scares. There are a few story beat issues but for the most part, I really love the PD remake. And for the record, I love the original too.