Nabs
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I guess it's back to the white controller.
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How to use your PS4 controller as a PC controller
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I guess it's back to the white controller.
immortal-joe
Member
Right so it's time to test another controller. It's gotta be a hardware issue now, either the controller or the BT Dongle.
Tested the white controller again, and that one has latency warnings too. It will sometimes stop flashing red, but then flash red after a few more seconds.
It's weird, I was using the controller earlier and didn't have any latency issues. I'm not sure what could have changed.
If it is the dongle, what's a really good one you can recommend?
It's weird, I was using the controller earlier and didn't have any latency issues. I'm not sure what could have changed.
If it is the dongle, what's a really good one you can recommend?
immortal-joe
Member
Which one do you currently have (sorry if you already stated this).
This one has been reported to be working by many (including myself), so much so that the DS4 shows up as a recommended buy on the page.
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B007Q45EF4/?tag=neogaf0e-20
FWIW, I do face latency issues from my couch (really bad ones), but they go away if I sit closer. I tested this with five dongles over the past two years. This is why I asked you to try stepping close to your dongle and see if that helps. Since it didn't, and you used to have a good experience, I'm sure this dongle will get you back on track.
immortal-joe
Member
Well the dongle surely will, but my understanding is that the input mapper / DS4 windows apps both had issues with Windows 10, though there seemed to be a workaround of some sorts (not sure about this but some in this thread posted about it).
Nabs
Member
I'm using that dongle in Windows 10 with DS4Windows and latency is just fine. I walk off pretty far with no issue either.
The Windows 10/Exclusive Mode fix that we use now is pretty simple: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=174405891&postcount=405
The Windows 10/Exclusive Mode fix that we use now is pretty simple: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=174405891&postcount=405
I still don't get why it was working fine earlier in the day only to crap out later on.
When I tried it again today it seemed to be working fine but soon started flashing with latency again.
Are there perhaps any internal factors that are playing a role, like certain programs or resources? Or will these problems all go away once I invest in a better dongle?
When I tried it again today it seemed to be working fine but soon started flashing with latency again.
Are there perhaps any internal factors that are playing a role, like certain programs or resources? Or will these problems all go away once I invest in a better dongle?
So I'm trying to get that method working, but the program keeps saying that it can't hide my controller because I have to terminate programs like Steam, UPlay, etc.
I can't figure out what I need to shut down beyond that. If the batch file is easier, how do I use that?
Nabs
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Which dongle do you have? I thought you had the one that immortal-joe mentioned.
Creating a batch file is easy. Open Notepad > paste contents > Save As and change Save Type as "All Files" > name it something.bat. I think you'll want to run that as Admin.
You'll want to close as much as possible. You should only have to run the batch file once per startup. You may have to run it twice if it doesn't work the first time (I usually run it twice).
Thanks, that worked. Not sure if it's meant to help with latency though.
I did try the dongle listed once, but I immediately returned it as I didn't notice any difference. Then again I was probably a bit hasty as I only tried one game (The Witcher 3, which at the time was the only game I cared about playing with). The one I currently use is a 2.0 Belkin, so this should be an improvement regardless.
Do background processes play a factor with latency? I noticed my list was rather huge, so I'm going to clean house on that soon.
Opening a tab/hitting reply, for example, sets the controller flashing red, so I think CPU or memory might play a factor here.
I did try the dongle listed once, but I immediately returned it as I didn't notice any difference. Then again I was probably a bit hasty as I only tried one game (The Witcher 3, which at the time was the only game I cared about playing with). The one I currently use is a 2.0 Belkin, so this should be an improvement regardless.
Do background processes play a factor with latency? I noticed my list was rather huge, so I'm going to clean house on that soon.
Opening a tab/hitting reply, for example, sets the controller flashing red, so I think CPU or memory might play a factor here.
I think my latency woes are over. I tried the 4.0 dongle and so far I haven't had any more latency flashes. Looks like this did the trick.
My only other issue now is getting the controller to work in exclusive mode. I keep getting the message that I must close applications like Steam, but no matter how many I close in Task Manager I can't seem to figure out which programs are interfering with my controller.
My only other issue now is getting the controller to work in exclusive mode. I keep getting the message that I must close applications like Steam, but no matter how many I close in Task Manager I can't seem to figure out which programs are interfering with my controller.
Nabs
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Glad to hear that the BT Dongle is working for you.
For exclusive mode, just close whatever programs or windows you have active, don't bother going through your Task Manager. Then use the "Connect DS4 Exclusively" button to connect your controller in the latest DS4Windows. You may have to use it twice to get it to work for you, but once you do, you should be set for a while.
I've closed absolutely everything on my desktop tray but I still get the message that I have to close programs before running in exclusive mode.
I've tried closing background processes and even windows processes, but I can't find out what's keeping my controller from going exclusive.
Edit: It's working now.
I think the key was to keep hitting the exclusivity button on DS4Windows over and over until the controller worked.
I've tried closing background processes and even windows processes, but I can't find out what's keeping my controller from going exclusive.
Edit: It's working now.
I think the key was to keep hitting the exclusivity button on DS4Windows over and over until the controller worked.
My controller stopped working in exclusive mode once it disconnected after time-out, and now I can't get it to go exclusive again.
I have no idea what steps got it to work that brief moment, but this is really annoying. I keep trying to mash the button in DS4 Windows as well as use a batch file that kills explorer, but nothing is working.
I have no idea what steps got it to work that brief moment, but this is really annoying. I keep trying to mash the button in DS4 Windows as well as use a batch file that kills explorer, but nothing is working.
Cannon Goose
Member
I always have to do it twice, even after closing Steam.
My method:
- Close Steam.
- Connect controller via Bluetooth, get the error message.
- Disconnect controller.
- Connect controller again, this time it works.
- Restart Steam.
Do you disconnect by hitting Stop on DS4 Windows or using the controller shortcut (share+start in my case)? Does that even matter?
Also at what point in your steps do you kill explorer?
Right now I'm constantly disconnecting and reconnecting my controller but it's the same message even after frequent attempts.
Nabs
Member
This is it:
1) Press the "Connect DS4 Exclusively" button in DS4windows
2) Turn on controller
3) Disconnect controller (Tap Options+PS)
4) Repeat Step 1 and 2
Marko_Baomoro
Member
My pc recognizes it as standard controller, only touch pad does not work
Do you eventually stop getting the red highlighted message as your indicator that it worked? Or does that persist even when it's working?
You'll want to close the Xbox app. I had to do so to get exclusive mode to work.
Tried it, still nothing.
oRuin
Member
Teamspeak 3 is another app that gets in the way of things for me. I have to close that aswell as Steam.
I have also found that I have to sometimes go to Settings, Controller/Driver Setup and reinstall the DS4 driver. If I don't I get huge latency (red flashes included) a few seconds after connecting.
I have also found that I have to sometimes go to Settings, Controller/Driver Setup and reinstall the DS4 driver. If I don't I get huge latency (red flashes included) a few seconds after connecting.
oRuin
Member
I would end one process at a time and keep trying. I'm sure you will find it in the end.
riskVSreward
Member
I thought DS4Windows became InputMapper?
I'm on Win7 and I've been using InputMapper for maybe 6 months and it always works without issue. I got a cheap BT dongle for my PC on Amazon, already had a 360 driver installed, paired the controller and it's good to go. You just open InputMapper, turn on the controller, and that's it! It even changes the LED light to reflect battery life.
If DS4Windows is separate from InputMapper, may I recommend InputMapper to those having issues.
https://inputmapper.com/
I'm on Win7 and I've been using InputMapper for maybe 6 months and it always works without issue. I got a cheap BT dongle for my PC on Amazon, already had a 360 driver installed, paired the controller and it's good to go. You just open InputMapper, turn on the controller, and that's it! It even changes the LED light to reflect battery life.
If DS4Windows is separate from InputMapper, may I recommend InputMapper to those having issues.
https://inputmapper.com/
Nabs
Member
No, it didn't. The problems he's having are related to Windows 10 and are the same across programs.
You have a ton of programs running the background that most of us don't use. You're going to have to figure this one out on your own, but hopefully you can help someone out in the future.
You have a ton of programs running the background that most of us don't use. You're going to have to figure this one out on your own, but hopefully you can help someone out in the future.
| Praxis |
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I'm considering getting MGS on the PS4 just to avoid all of these problems with Win 10. Should never have updated until after completing it.
Is there a way to boot up Windows 10 with every single program disabled from startup? That might be easier for me, booting up one thing at a time, rather than the reverse.
I've gone so far as to kill every single background process and still get nothing. Only thing I can think of is that it's something on the Windows background side.
So I switched back to Windows 7 to try and get a better handle on this exclusive mode, and I was able to get it working....at least temporarily.
On Windows 7 I fire up my desktop, turn off Steam and Xpadder, and then run DS4Windows with exclusive mode already ticked. At this point I just have to connect my controller and it works as intended. No problems.
However, once my controller disconnects (either manually or by itself), I am unable to get it working exclusively afterwards. It just won't work unless I restart my PC again.
Does Windows 7 also require explorer to be killed to get exclusive mode working? If not, how do I reconnect it after getting it to work upon startup?
Edit: Tried Inputmapper and it worked. Maybe I'll stick to this over DS4Windows.
The reason I like DS4Windows, though, is that it lets me disconnect by pushing Share+Options. Is there a way to enable this along with other hotkey configurations through Inputmapper?
On Windows 7 I fire up my desktop, turn off Steam and Xpadder, and then run DS4Windows with exclusive mode already ticked. At this point I just have to connect my controller and it works as intended. No problems.
However, once my controller disconnects (either manually or by itself), I am unable to get it working exclusively afterwards. It just won't work unless I restart my PC again.
Does Windows 7 also require explorer to be killed to get exclusive mode working? If not, how do I reconnect it after getting it to work upon startup?
Edit: Tried Inputmapper and it worked. Maybe I'll stick to this over DS4Windows.
The reason I like DS4Windows, though, is that it lets me disconnect by pushing Share+Options. Is there a way to enable this along with other hotkey configurations through Inputmapper?
Cannon Goose
Member
Try deleting the controller from the Devices and Printers section in the Control Panel and then re-pair it via Bluetooth.
the_log_ride
Member
Subscribing. Need a setup that will work with MGSV
Nabs
Member
www.ds4windows.com - if you're on Windows 10, you'll want to connect your controller via the new experimental button (under the controller tab). You'll want to do that before launching Steam, and you may have to do it twice (you'll notice the red text at the bottom if it doesn't work). Last thing, you may want to go to Settings and check "Hide DS4 Controller", just to prevent some games from having double inputs or not recognizing the 360 controller at all.
the_log_ride
Member
Awesome! Thanks, Nabs! Yep, running Windows 10. I was looking into DS4windows prior to posting, so I'm hopeful this works out for me. As much as I wanted to try out keyboard and mouse, I'd rather have a controller.
Maybe a special request but i thought about using the DS4 Touchpad or left analog stick as mouse and L1/R1 as left and right mouse button in Mass Effect 2 and 3 for mining planets. Is this possible in some way? I tried it already by setting L1/R1 as the buttons and using Touchpad as mouse but that only works on desktop and stops working ingame. So, what i probably want is to use the DS4 as an emulated mouse, instead of a normal controller because ME has no Controller support at all.
I know there are mods for controller usage for ME, but i like playing them with M/KB normally, mining is the only annoying thing with a mouse and should be much easier with the pad.
I know there are mods for controller usage for ME, but i like playing them with M/KB normally, mining is the only annoying thing with a mouse and should be much easier with the pad.
Has anyone gotten the game working wirelessly? I bought the Bluetooth adapter listed on the site as recommended, but I can't get it to work. When I try to install the driver from the disk, it says no Bluetooth device detected and when I try to run the installer I downloaded from the company's website, it gets stuck at trying to find a Bluetooth device, even if I have the controller in pairing mode.
Rogue Agent
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Yesterday, my controller went haywire in the sense that it kept on disconnecting and connecting automatically. Today it has been fine but this strange problem has happened before on several occasions, even though for the most part it works perfectly.
Anyone know why this happens? I have a wired connection through DS4Windows and I always connect before opening Steam.
Anyone know why this happens? I have a wired connection through DS4Windows and I always connect before opening Steam.
pixelpatron
Banned
Using ds4windows just fine on my laptop, been successful installing and getting Bluetooth to work. So I attempted to hook up a second controller, and no such luck. Questions:
Does ds4windows support dual controller (2p) inputs? (Play two player castle crashers on steam? Vs. on Mame...StreetFighter series.) Has anyone got this to work?
If so how the hell do I get it to work, as well as have it with bluetooth? (Windows 10).
Thanks Gaf, I really want this to work. :-(
Does ds4windows support dual controller (2p) inputs? (Play two player castle crashers on steam? Vs. on Mame...StreetFighter series.) Has anyone got this to work?
If so how the hell do I get it to work, as well as have it with bluetooth? (Windows 10).
Thanks Gaf, I really want this to work. :-(
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I use DSWindows without issue, a lot of games are coming with native support as well which is great.
DarknessTear
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Can anyone recommend a good Bluetooth adapter. I got this one http://www.amazon.com/dp/B007Q45EF4/?tag=neogaf0e-20
And my input lag is over 32ms often.
Edit: nvm maybe scp toolkit will fix it
And my input lag is over 32ms often.
Edit: nvm maybe scp toolkit will fix it
bananafactory
Banned
Nope I've been using mine to play gtav on steam just hooked up with a USB cord. Definitely stays paired with ps4
It does not. It can be BT paired with PS4 and USB work for PC. I use it that way in the living room right now and I can interchange all the controllers without issues. Only issue is if you want to play PC and accidentally press PS button before plugging it in, then you turn on the PS4.
Is it connected directly to the motherboard? Try connecting it to a USB extension cord and placing it away from the computer. I was getting a shit signal and input lag with the one I bought (the recommended one on the site) until I connected it to a extension cord I had lying around. Down to 1-2ms now and no more random dc's. Grinchy had similar success using an extension cord with the dongle you have.
It's definitely nothing special, but it's this one (edit- oh wow it's the same one as the guy you were quoting earlier):
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B007Q45EF4?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_search_detailpage
I hated it and assumed it didn't work because it was cheap. This is the adapter I plugged it into instead of using the front of case or motherboard USB slots:
And it now works amazingly. I've had a keyboard, mouse, and 2 PS4 controllers connected to it at the same time without a single hiccup.
I want to disable all these pointless services and programs you have up so badly. nVidia is sooooooooooo shit. "streamer service" LOL
SeeNoWeevil
Member
I had the same problems initially until I relocated the dongle with the aid of a USB extension cable. My AV unit has several wifi/bluetooth radios in various bits of kit.
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