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[NateDrake]

IGN

The next Xbox will ship to retailers in late October or early November of next year with six times the processing power of the Xbox 360, sources close to the project have told IGN.

Following initial reports from tech blogs Fudzilla and SemiAccurate, our sources have confirmed that mass production of the system's GPU will indeed begin by the end of 2012 but will not, however, be based on AMD's 7000 series Southern Islands GPU. Instead, the processor will be derived from the 6000 series, which was introduced last year. More specifically, it will be akin to the Radeon HD 6670, which offers support for DirectX11, multidisplay output, 3D and 1080p HD output. The chip currently has a market price of upwards of $79.99.

In real terms, the Xbox 720's raw graphics processing power is expected to be six times that of the Xbox 360 and will yield 20-percent greater performance than Nintendo's forthcoming console, the Wii U.

Developers are likely to receive development kits based on the system's final configuration in August. Projected pricing for the console was not provided.

 

[HammerOfThor]

Is it normal to get a final dev box a month before the console hits? That doesnt seem like a long enough time.

 

[DieH@rd]

For those who care, performance of that gpu is around ~ 6670 = 5770 = 4850



Obviously, with much lower TDP.

 

[Xenon]

How do they always hit those even numbers. Why not 21.7%?

 

[Orayn]

That sounds... Significantly less powerful than I'd expect. Probably best to take this news with a few dozen grains of salt, though. ('Cause, y'know, IGN.)

 

[FormallyFamicom]

20% more powerful than Wii U? This sounds more realistic to me.

 

[gofreak]

Yikes...

I guess they really are putting a Kinect in every box then.

 

[tea_and_crumpets]

So how many Gigaflops does it have?

 

[darth_infamous]

So next-gen consoles will be current-gen PC, gotcha.

 

[Orayn]

So next-gen consoles will be current-gen PC, gotcha.

If by "current-gen," you mean "midrange from 2010," yes.

 

[JerzeyDevil]

IGN

So is this good news for Wii U hopefuls? "20% greater performance" doesn't sound like a HD Twins/Wii level of disparity

 

[Nirolak]

If true, I feel this puts us at a significant chance of a three tiered generation a la the PS2/GameCube/Xbox, since getting more power than that is pretty easy if Sony feel likes being an ass to them.

 

[Cobra84]

So next-gen consoles will be current-gen PC, gotcha.

Not even that. The 6670 is half as powerful as the 1.5 year old Geforce 460.

 

[ShdwDrake]

That sounds... Significantly less powerful than I'd expect. Probably best to take this news with a few dozen grains of salt, though. ('Cause, y'know, IGN.)

Thats not bad IMO considering the graphics that the 360 pumps out now with the specs it has now. I want you to run Gears of War in a PC with 512 total ram...

 

[Forsaken82]

Actually sounds like what I was expecting. But I low ball my expectations a lot.

 

[nelsonroyale]

Wow... My laptop would smoke that. I call false

 

[archnemesis]

That's underwhelming. Hopefully the rumor is wrong.

 

[iamshadowlark]

Legit rumor or IGN trying to get in on the rumor mill?

 

[DopeyFish]

I don't believe this news

 

[gofreak]

So is this good news for Wii U hopefuls? "20% better overall performance" doesn't sound like a HD Twins/Wii level of disparity

It'd be a practically insignificant difference. Quite disappointing if true. I would guess their budget is just somewhere else though if that's the case, like in the new kinect or whatever.

 

[Proelite]

Bu..bu...bu...Avatar!

 

[Leon S. Kennedy]

The next Xbox will ship to retailers in late October or early November of next year with six times the processing power of the Xbox 360, sources close to the project have told IGN.

Next year means 2013??

 

[herzogzwei1989]

I don't believe it. Anything less than a full 10x leap is bullshit to me.

 

[H_Prestige]

PS4 is going to run circles around this thing.

 

[Opus Angelorum]

It'd be a practically insignificant difference.

Which is why I think it is complete nonsense.

 

[Gully State]

If by "current-gen," you mean "midrange from 2008," yes.

fixed

 

[[Nintex]]

Legit rumor or IGN trying to get in on the rumor mill?

I get a feeling that MS is flooding the channel with rumors because we get a new Xbox 720, Loop, Fusion, Infinity based on ARM, AMD, IBM, PowerPC, Power7, Bulldozer, Radeon 6000, Radeon 7000, with tablet, without tablet, with Kinect build in, with Kinect 2 build in, running Windows 8, running Windows 9(?) almost like weekly.

 

[Father_Brain]

Sounds plausible, though best to take this with a grain of salt. Is Epic going to be heartbroken if this is true?

 

[Phoenician_Viking]

With all these nextbox rumors, i am now positive that we will see it at E3.

 

[DieH@rd]

Radeon 6670 manufactured at 40nm uses less than 75W [wiki says 66]. Hopefully that old rumor about dual gpu setup is true. Two of this chips could be pretty OK, but one... is really low IMO.

6670 represents the lowest possible GPU that i thought they would put in there...

 

[Orayn]

I don't believe it. Anything less than a full 10x leap is bullshit to me.

10x leap in what? Gamecubes duct-taped together?

Sounds plausible, though best to take this with a grain of salt. Is Epic going to be heartbroken if this is true?

I'm sure Epic has been kept up to date.

 

[Nirolak]

Legit rumor or IGN trying to get in on the rumor mill?

Well, here's what IGN has posted about the 3DS:

IGN has learned that the Nintendo 3DS will have:

* Two 266MHz ARM11 CPUs
* 133MHz GPU
* 4MBs of dedicated VRAM
* 64MBs of RAM
* 1.5GBs of flash storage

Source: http://nintendo3dsblog.com/new-nintendo-3ds-hardware-info-processors-memory-storage-etc

For reference, this has wrong info on a couple of fronts.

 

[Sky Chief]

That sounds incredibly underwhelming

 

[Acosta]

NOOOOOOOO.

That's really underwhelming, I hope is untrue. This generation MS achieved a great result packing the most powerful box they could reasonably produce. A 6670 is yesterday technology.

 

[[Nintex]]

and oh you don't start:

mass production of the system's GPU will indeed begin by the end of 2012

and launch

October 2013

makes no sense in any scenario.

 

[herod]

I guess I picked the right time to go primarily PC.

 

[WrikaWrek]

Damn, that's wack if true. Was expecting a pimped out state of the art chip.

Microsoft is going cheap on us.

 

[SMT]

Hmm, why so low bro? Doesn't make it much of an investment if you asked me.
I am even thinking of an overclocked custom version now, because this isn't very impressive.

I don't trust these articles anywho.

 

[Shtof]

In before CliffyB makes Avatar graphics on Playstation 4 instead.

 

[TheExodu5]

Sounds very possibly to me. This is more in line with what I would expect from next-gen.

I think people are being too hopeful. I'm not expecting Microsoft or Sony to release high-cost loss leading hardware.

As for people complaining about the lack of power...if they maintain 720p / 30fps as a target, you will see significant improvements in terms of visuals. Hell, just look at the Zelda Wii U tech demo...the lighting blows away any game to date, IMO (aside from CryEngine 3 tech demos).

 

[TAJ]

$199.99 launch price, confirmed?

I don't like this rumor at all.

 

[Totobeni]

It'd be a practically insignificant difference. Quite disappointing if true. I would guess their budget is just somewhere else though if that's the case, like in the new kinect or whatever.

Or just want to keep the thing as cheap as possible to sell more units.

 

[Relaxed Muscle]

From the 7000 series rumors to this, that's a significantly downgrade.

 

[SomeDude]

WHy don't they just call it xbox wii then? only 20 percent more powerful than wii u? meh


underwhelmed.

 

[somesayyea]

That's underwhelming. Hopefully the rumor is wrong.

My thoughts exactly.

 

[mug]

Sounds good to me. I'd estimate a $300 price with that gpu including kinect+ or whatever the future version will be called.

 

[Ridley327]

$199.99 launch price, confirmed?

I don't like this rumor at all.

In the immortal words of Ted Knight, you'll get nothing and like it!

 

[Little Green Yoda]

If true, I feel this puts us at a significant chance of a three tiered generation a la the PS2/GameCube/Xbox, since getting more power than that is pretty easy if Sony feel likes being an ass to them.

At what cost though? Especially since Sony is in the worst shape of the big 3 and there's still the potential of Vita not selling gangbusters out of the gate without a price cut?

 

[iamshadowlark]

I get a feeling that MS is flooding the channel with rumors because we get a new Xbox 720, Loop, Fusion, Infinity based on ARM, AMD, IBM, PowerPC, Power7, Bulldozer, Radeon 6000, Radeon 7000, with tablet, without tablet, with Kinect build in, with Kinect 2 build in, running Windows 8, running Windows 9(?) almost like weekly.

And almost nothing about PS4, even though sony has given us a bit of their roadmap.

 

[Dennis]

So next-gen consoles will be current-gen PC, gotcha.

lolz